Leisure Moorings for a liveaboard?

[Kane Brennan]

Is it possible to have a leisure mooring for a liveaboard. We spend most of our time on the cut, but come into a marina the odd times to go away on holiday or just feel grounded a few days. 

They say you cant be in the marina all the time with a leisure mooring, does that mean leave the boat or can we leave with the boat for that time. 

[Rob-M]

We have a leisure mooring in a marina and spend quite a bit of time either on the boat in the marina or out cruising but we have a house as well which is our home address.  Most marinas are ok with staying on board but some stipulate maximum nights allowed and not doing things like hanging your washing out so keeping a low profile.

[alias]

4 minutes ago, Kane Brennan said:

Is it possible to have a leisure mooring for a liveaboard. We spend most of our time on the cut, but come into a marina the odd times to go away on holiday or just feel grounded a few days. 

They say you cant be in the marina all the time with a leisure mooring, does that mean leave the boat or can we leave with the boat for that time. 

 

Many people use their leisure mooring like that.  Some marinas place a maximum number of nights on board in the marina, so worth checking if yours is one of them.

[Kane Brennan]

2 minutes ago, Rob-M said:

We have a leisure mooring in a marina and spend quite a bit of time either on the boat in the marina or out cruising but we have a house as well which is our home address.  Most marinas are ok with staying on board but some stipulate maximum nights allowed and not doing things like hanging your washing out so keeping a low profile.

We have full residential at an Aquavista which is £5k a year. We are looking at canal side leisure moorings which we keep getting invited to bid for. Which would be £3k cheaper per year.

Full residential marinas still dont let you hang your washing out lol

[Col_T]

Some would interpret “full residential” as meaning you can use that as your ‘official’ address, and may also include council tax liability. If that is the case, I suspect the “canal side leisure moorings” will not be an ‘apples with apples’ comparison.

[MtB]

4 hours ago, Kane Brennan said:

They say you cant be in the marina all the time with a leisure mooring, does that mean leave the boat or can we leave with the boat for that time. 

 

Bear in mind the marina business probably doesn't actually care, but they need to comply with the planning permission conditions by the local authority when they built the place.

 

So they need anyone living aboard to do it 'under the radar', i.e. not flaunt it about by giving it as their address, parking loads of cars there, hanging washing out, getting parcels and mail delivered, telling HMRC, their employer, bank etc they live there, kids and dogs running about, parties in the evening, junk on the pontoons, and generally treating the place like some people treat a house.

 

 

 

 

Edited September 4 by MtB

[Kane Brennan]

16 minutes ago, MtB said:

 

Bear in mind the marina business probably doesn't actually care, but they need to comply with the planning permission conditions by the local authority when they built the place.

 

So they need anyone living aboard to do it 'under the radar', i.e. not flaunt it about by giving it as their address, parking loads of cars there, hanging washing out, getting parcels and mail delivered, telling HMRC, their employer, bank etc they live there, kids and dogs running about, parties in the evening, junk on the pontoons, and generally treating the place like some people treat a house.

 

 

 

 

We dont party or drink and dont get involved with local social events or anything, we are in bed by 9 and up at 6am. We specifically moved to the marina we are in now because it has zero facilities outside of a laundrette and waste. No restaurants, bars or people. The marina we are in and people in it dont do any of those things you mentioned and it is a residential marina lol. You wont see anyone at all most days other than staff carrying the odd thing here and there. I thought all marinas would be like this. 

We can provide a land address if needed and that was going to become the postal address. 

50 minutes ago, Col_T said:

Some would interpret “full residential” as meaning you can use that as your ‘official’ address, and may also include council tax liability. If that is the case, I suspect the “canal side leisure moorings” will not be an ‘apples with apples’ comparison.

We arent wanting an address, just somewhere to put the boat when we are absent.

[BilgePump]

4 hours ago, Kane Brennan said:

We have full residential at an Aquavista which is £5k a year. We are looking at canal side leisure moorings which we keep getting invited to bid for. Which would be £3k cheaper per year.

Full residential marinas still dont let you hang your washing out lol

Lots of people use basic CaRT leisure moorings as residential 'under the radar'. I think the access to a land address makes life easier.

[Kane Brennan]

Honestly starting to get a vibe that people are making assumptions. 

We plan to have a different postal address.

The marina we are in is residential doesn’t like anything on the jetty’s, no washing out and people arent allowed to hang out around their boats, no parties, no bbq or anything. I thought this was normal for a residential. 

We spend upto 3 months at a time on the cut and will often come in just for a month for a few repairs, redecorating and a break from the boat. Such as a holiday to wales or the lakes for example. We have just come into the marina now from doing the Leicester ring and it’s because we want to decorate our bathroom. Once that’s done in a week or two, we will be back out again. 

I have a long list of bridges with lay-bys and car parks saved in my phone, I flaunt them if anything. 

[BilgePump]

4 minutes ago, Kane Brennan said:

Honestly starting to get a vibe that people are making assumptions. 

We plan to have a different postal address.

The marina we are in is residential doesn’t like anything on the jetty’s, no washing out and people arent allowed to hang out around their boats, no parties, no bbq or anything. I thought this was normal for a residential. 

We spend upto 3 months at a time on the cut and will often come in just for a month for a few repairs, redecorating and a break from the boat. Such as a holiday to wales or the lakes for example. We have just come into the marina now from doing the Leicester ring and it’s because we want to decorate our bathroom. Once that’s done in a week or two, we will be back out again. 

I have a long list of bridges with lay-bys and car parks saved in my phone, I flaunt them if anything. 

The more that you've explained, the more that it's clear that you should have no problems doing as you propose. Don't take the abruptness of the forum for insults. Have a land postal address, take a CaRT leisure mooring, go cruising, put it back, stay on it for a few weeks, go out again. Nobody on here is going to give you grief for that.

[nicknorman]

2 hours ago, Kane Brennan said:

Honestly starting to get a vibe that people are making assumptions. 
 

People are just trying to be helpful and covering the issues. Of course they are making assumptions, you gave fairly scant information and so the options are either to not reply, or to reply whilst filling the gaps with assumptions. We are not telepathic!

 

If you want a specific answer to your specific question, then it is ”Yes”. But that doesn’t seem particularly helpful in the absence of peripheral information and description.

Edited September 4 by nicknorman

[Arthur Marshall]

8 hours ago, Kane Brennan said:

Is it possible to have a leisure mooring for a liveaboard. We spend most of our time on the cut, but come into a marina the odd times to go away on holiday or just feel grounded a few days. 

They say you cant be in the marina all the time with a leisure mooring, does that mean leave the boat or can we leave with the boat for that time. 

A friend has kept his non-residential home mooring at my farm, but lives aboard and spends the bulk of the year cruising. Nips back when medical treatment is needed and nobody minds if a week or two is spent on the mooring.

How that technically works with CRT I have no idea, whether he is registered as cc or a home moorer. He's both, really. It's a new grey area which I suspect will be sorted out in due course.

Currently, there are only two definitions of a boater; you either have a home mooring or you are a continuous cruiser. Whether you live aboard or not is not considered relevant. That's what I think may change in the future, but at the moment it simply doesn't come into it.

[MtB]

2 hours ago, nicknorman said:

People are just trying to be helpful and covering the issues. Of course they are making assumptions, you gave fairly scant information and so the options are either to not reply, or to reply whilst filling the gaps with assumptions. We are not telepathic!

 

If you want a specific answer to your specific question, then it is ”Yes”. But that doesn’t seem particularly helpful in the absence of peripheral information and description.

 

I was feeling the need to post something along these lines too, but decided I CBA if that's his attitude. 

 

We seem to be getting a rash of new posters here wishing to dictate the types of responses that are acceptable (to them), which turns out to be very few. 

 

 

 

 

 

[MrsM]

We had a leisure mooring and the main stipulation was we had to provide evidence of a land address - eg formal paperwork showing our name and address and evidence we were paying council tax. We were out cruising for months at a time and stayed in the marina only during the main winter period. I'm quite sure they would have been ok with us staying on our boat for the weeks it was moored up. Was good to feel the boat has a safe and secure base when we weren't aboard.

Edited September 5 by MrsM
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[blackrose]

12 hours ago, Kane Brennan said:

Honestly starting to get a vibe that people are making assumptions. 
 

 

A vibe? Well that may be an assumption on your part. Don't assume people are making assumptions. 😋