Slightly disheartened 🫤

[IanD]

Just now, BoatinglifeupNorth said:

Yes some, not the majority.

It answers your question though... 😉 

 

And some undoubtedly do it for the "fame" rather than money, because many people today (not me!) enjoy telling everyone every detail of what they've been doing with their lives, where they've been with who and what they've eaten -- which is what social media is all about for many, isn't it?

 

Just because you don't understand why they do it doesn't mean they don't think they have a perfectly good reason for doing it, because not everyone thinks the same... 🙂 

[LadyG]

1 hour ago, IanD said:

 

You do realise that some people make quite a lot of money out of vlogs?

There is nothing wrong with using ones skills to publish vlogs, and make money.

Minimal List did a fair bit of work, and also designed new charts.

 One contributed on his sailaway build, made a decent job of it, and this has led to a new career with Victrom, making training videos.

Cruising the Cut blazed the trail with his professional documentary style, also shares his professional kit list which is of no benefit to him.

Those who use a phone to record their travels don't last long.

 

Edited August 13 by LadyG

[beerbeerbeerbeerbeer]

I no longer know which thread is which, I’ll go for this one:

 

and they’re putting them on hire boats now!

expect more mishaps from the trigger happy bow thrusterers 

[Gybe Ho]

On 13/08/2024 at 14:53, BoatinglifeupNorth said:

 

 The type that buy a new boat, Vlog the launch, Vlog their first trip, Vlog their first Elsen trip, while pulling a face due to the smell, Vlog their first “crash, bang wallop” mishap. All to get 10 views, 8 likes and a couple of comments.👍
 

 

A post which reveals your high degree of familiarity with the YouTube narrowboating genre. Does this make you a closet YouTube fan or was it for "research" purposes?

[BoatinglifeupNorth]

10 minutes ago, Gybe Ho said:

 

A post which reveals your high degree of familiarity with the YouTube narrowboating genre. Does this make you a closet YouTube fan or was it for "research" purposes?

 I do watch YouTube, obviously not as much as you. I rarely watch a Narrowboat Vlog all the way through and often watch on fast forward or for only 10 seconds, then switch off, as they don’t really interest me and I can go cruise down the canal, do a lock anytime. I can also empty my cassette and inhale the smell of a sanitary station for real, instead of imagining it watching on my computer sat in my bedroom👍

Edited August 14 by BoatinglifeupNorth

[truckcab79]

On 13/08/2024 at 14:53, BoatinglifeupNorth said:

On the other hand, why do people want to film their lives and show the world what they’ve done today and think it hasn’t been done a hundred times before? 
 The type that buy a new boat, Vlog the launch, Vlog their first trip, Vlog their first Elsen trip, while pulling a face due to the smell, Vlog their first “crash, bang wallop” mishap. All to get 10 views, 8 likes and a couple of comments.👍
 

 

Each to their own, like everything else.  If you look at the number of subscribers some of these channels have you’ll get an idea of how many people enjoy them.  And that’s without all those like me that watch them and never subscribe to any of them.  Just because it’s not for you doesn’t meant that they’re not, good, enjoyable, informative or any number of other reasons to watch.  Give it a go. You might find that you haven't learnt everything and done it all a hundred times, and no doubt better, after all.  The world changes. Does no harm to keep up, but nobody’s making YOU watch them. 

On 13/08/2024 at 15:28, IanD said:

 

You do realise that some people make quite a lot of money out of vlogs?

  Absolutely. And if you watch any of the best known sailing videos then my god! Just look at the value of the boats that a couple of them have bought off the back of their success. Good luck to them.
 

For others, like me on Insta, with with a small

number of followers it’s just a really nice way of recording your progress

while swapping ideas, comments and encouragement with like-minded boat-folk.  

[Unicorn Stampede]

We once passed Minimal List cruising while our on our Narrowboat - we smiled and waved as we do to every boat we pass in a polite manner (I had no idea they were YouTubers, but my partner did).

 

They flat out blanked us and the bloke looked mightily unhappy.

 

That's my only experience of them - probably caught them on a bad day I guess.

 

We've met a couple of others (we were moored next to Ben and Emily for a fortnight once, way before they got onto YouTube) and they were exactly like they are on camera.

 

That's my only contribution to this!

[BoatinglifeupNorth]

1 hour ago, truckcab79 said:

Each to their own, like everything else.  If you look at the number of subscribers some of these channels have you’ll get an idea of how many people enjoy them.  And that’s without all those like me that watch them and never subscribe to any of them.  Just because it’s not for you doesn’t meant that they’re not, good, enjoyable, informative or any number of other reasons to watch.  Give it a go. You might find that you haven't learnt everything and done it all a hundred times, and no doubt better, after all.  The world changes. Does no harm to keep up, but nobody’s making YOU watch them. 

I do watch YouTube, but I don’t watch Narrowboat Vlogs, I watch YouTube channels that interest me and are related to things I do. Maybe living on a Narrowboat for the last 15 years 24/7 there’s not really a lot a newbie 20 year old something vlogger, who’s just bought a boat, painted the interior magnolia, fake grassed the roof and has a broken engine to repair, can really tell me about living and travelling on a boat, as I started off as green as the next person, please remember I’ve seen all these Vloggers come and go from when they started to when they left and non have been on the canals a long time or stayed long enough to put them on a pedestal, hero worship and obsessively watch their Channel.

 I’m sorry if the Newbies and the boat less newbie posters on here can’t get their heads around a boater not watching Narrowboat channels on YouTube, but it doesn’t mean I don’t watch other interesting YouTube channel's related to my interests.👍

Edited August 14 by BoatinglifeupNorth

[truckcab79]

14 minutes ago, BoatinglifeupNorth said:

I do watch YouTube, but I don’t watch Narrowboat Vlogs, I watch YouTube channels that interest me and are related to things I do. Maybe living on a Narrowboat for the last 15 years 24/7 there’s not really a lot a newbie 20 year old something vlogger, who’s just bought a boat, painted the interior magnolia, fake grassed the roof and has a broken engine to repair, can really tell me about living and travelling on a boat, as I started off as green as the next person, please remember I’ve seen all these Vloggers come and go from when they started to when they left and non have been on the canals a long time or stayed long enough to put them on a pedestal, hero worship and obsessively watch their Channel.

 I’m sorry if the Newbies and the boat less newbie posters on here can’t get their heads around a boater not watching Narrowboat channels on YouTube, but it doesn’t mean I don’t watch other interesting YouTube channel's related to my interests.👍

When you think you know it all is when you stop learning anything.  

[BoatinglifeupNorth]

7 minutes ago, truckcab79 said:

When you think you know it all is when you stop learning anything.  

And when you stop watching YouTube channels and experience life for real you live life.

  I’m learning everyday day working with boats, learning through real life experience, not through watching YouTube 👍

Edited August 14 by BoatinglifeupNorth

[truckcab79]

2 minutes ago, BoatinglifeupNorth said:

And when you stop watching YouTube channels and experience life for real you live life👍

Or do both.  They’re not mutually exclusive.  😉

[BoatinglifeupNorth]

13 minutes ago, truckcab79 said:

Or do both.  They’re not mutually exclusive.  😉

I honestly don’t need to watch YouTube every day, I talk to people that work on the canals every day for real, who don’t do or have YouTube channels. Are your another one that thinks Youtube is the be all and end all and obsessively watches it?

 Sorry I don’t, but it doesn’t mean I don’t learn new things every day👍

Edited August 14 by BoatinglifeupNorth

[truckcab79]

2 minutes ago, BoatinglifeupNorth said:

I honestly don’t need to watch YouTube every day, I talk to people that work on the canals every day who don’t do or have YouTube channels, are your another one that seems to think Youtube is the be all and end all?

Not at all. I’ve said quite clearly that you can do both or all of those things.  They’re all just different resources.  Different ways to learn.  Likely far more wide-ranging than limiting yourself to a comparatively tiny group of people on the canal.  
 

The alternative is the epitome of an echo chamber, more so if you think you’re done learning. Makes no odds to me though. We’re all different in our approach.  

[Quatre_Bougies]

YouTube has its uses.

 

We repaired  our chainsaw this year.  Last year, we repaired our sit on mower, which saved us hundreds of pounds.  We found what the fault was, via YouTube.  

 

I learnt to Sew and Crochet via YouTube.

 

I'm now a Pencil Artist, all down to people I followed on YouTube.  I'm now slowly setting up a business.  None of this would have been accomplished if I hadn’t followed folks that interested me.

[Alan de Enfield]

35 minutes ago, BoatinglifeupNorth said:

Sorry I don’t, but it doesn’t mean I don’t learn new things every day

 

For example, you have learned a lot in the last few days about the changes in the RCR  requirements - haven't you !

[BoatinglifeupNorth]

46 minutes ago, truckcab79 said:

 Different ways to learn.  Likely far more wide-ranging than limiting yourself to a comparatively tiny group of people on the canal.  
 

The alternative is the epitome of an echo chamber, more so if you think you’re done learning. Makes no odds to me though. We’re all different in our approach.  

Knowing a tiny group of people on the canals with decades of experience working commercial craft on the rivers and canals along with boat builders, sign-writers, ships carpenters and sitting down having a chat with them and listening to their experiences is far better than watching the YouTube Vlogs of Minimalist or Floating our Boat who have been on the canals 6/7 years leisure boating for me.
 Yes we’re all different and watch different things on YouTube👍👍

20 minutes ago, Alan de Enfield said:

 

For example, you have learned a lot in the last few days about the changes in the RCR  requirements - haven't you !

😂 👍👍

Edited August 14 by BoatinglifeupNorth

[truckcab79]

10 minutes ago, BoatinglifeupNorth said:

Knowing a tiny group of people on the canals with decades of experience working commercial craft on the rivers and canals along with boat builders, sign-writers, ships carpenters and sitting down having a chat with them and listening to their experiences is far better than watching YouTube Vlogs of Minimalist or Floating our Boat who have been on the canals 6/7 years leisure boating. 

😂 👍👍

Again……….you can do both.  
 

Have a read about growth mindsets.  (Or ask some old chap you meet on the canal if you prefer)

 

Have the last word please to reinforce that your way is obviously best and nothing new has occurred in boating or any other technology since 1950. 

 

I'm done.  Off to watch Youtube.   😉
 

 

 

[MtB]

44 minutes ago, truckcab79 said:

I'm done.  Off to watch Youtube.   😉

 

Phew!

 

 

[BoatinglifeupNorth]

58 minutes ago, truckcab79 said:

Again……….you can do both.  
 

Have a read about growth mindsets.  (Or ask some old chap you meet on the canal if you prefer)

 

Have the last word please to reinforce that your way is obviously best and nothing new has occurred in boating or any other technology since 1950. 

 

I'm done.  Off to watch Youtube.   😉
 

 

My way is best?? You seem infatuated by Youtube and think everyone else is also, well they’re not. But you seem not to able to understand that.

Edited August 14 by BoatinglifeupNorth

[Gybe Ho]

2 hours ago, BoatinglifeupNorth said:

I honestly don’t need to watch YouTube every day

 

 

But you do have an odd compulsion mock, malign and denigrate YouTubers or those who make any positive mention of YouTube. This is a lot more than the lack of interest you claim, your behavior constitutes passionate dislike.

 

This is a broadly shared belief by the old timers here and must drive away newcomers. Newcomers will know the YouTube hate-cult here has no rational substance it is just delusional group think,. This by implication will devalue what the forum can provide on other core narrowboat topics. I won't be the first new member to think if the old guard here are struggling to comprehend YouTube where else are they loosing touch with narrowboating reality.

[MrsM]

With respect, I think you are not quite right. It is not YouTube per se but rather the raft of new(ish) boat vlogs that many of us have little interest in. Robbie et al are regularly commended on here as being of genuine interest to boaters - prospective, current and past. There's a huge difference between those vlogs and the 'I've just bought a boat, come with me on my adventure' type vlogs.

[BoatinglifeupNorth]

5 minutes ago, Gybe Ho said:

 

But you do have an odd compulsion mock, malign and denigrate YouTubers or those who make any positive mention of YouTube. This is a lot more than the lack of interest you claim, your behavior constitutes passionate dislike.

 

This is a broadly shared belief by the old timers here and must drive away newcomers. Newcomers will know the YouTube hate-cult here has no rational substance it is just delusional group think,. This by implication will devalue what the forum can provide on other core narrowboat topics. I won't be the first new member to think if the old guard here are struggling to comprehend YouTube where else are they loosing touch with narrowboating reality.

Just because someone isn’t bothered about Youtube Narrowboat Vlogs doesn’t mean they don’t watch YouTube. I don’t need to get my Narrowboat experience through YouTube, What are you going on about, Narrowboating reality? You haven’t even got a Narrowboat and probably have never been on one. You seem a complete dreamer and that seems to be the opinion of a lot of people on here.

Come on how far are you on with this Narrowboat build of yours?

Any further than it only being in your head? Have you done any costings, booked any build slots anything?

Come on give us a breakdown and you budget expenses, instead of being all talk👍

[MrsM]

To add: I subscribe to quite a few YouTube channels and have a rather strange (for a middle-aged woman) passion for parkour and rock climbing channels. This is something I have never taken part in but I get enormous pleasure from watching other people excel in it. I was lucky to cover much of the waterways network in 4 years and  have little interest in videos of other boaters. Now if only I could drag myself away from this wretched place!

[Gybe Ho]

1 hour ago, BoatinglifeupNorth said:

Just because someone isn’t bothered about Youtube Narrowboat Vlogs doesn’t mean they don’t watch YouTube. I don’t need to get my Narrowboat experience through YouTube, What are you going on about, Narrowboating reality?

 

 

Which avoids my principal question, why do you expend so much energy on denigrating YouTube including a personal character attack on named YouTubers?

 

1 hour ago, BoatinglifeupNorth said:

 

Come on how far are you on with this Narrowboat build of yours?

 

 

Talking to shell fabricators about build slot dates and the cost of custom extras.

 

1 hour ago, BoatinglifeupNorth said:

Any further than it only being in your head? Have you done any costings, booked any build slots anything?

Come on give us a breakdown and your budget expenses, instead of being all talk👍

 

 

During my first week in this forum I started a topic suggesting I would be prepared to build a list of the components that go into a fitout project. The usual experts rushed into the thread to condemn the very concept, they claimed all narrowboats are different making the exercise pointless.

 

Having fleshed out the budget to £43,558 plus shell I now know what a large portion of the budget goes on standard components needed in all +50 ft  narrowboats.

 

 

[truckcab79]

4 hours ago, Gybe Ho said:

 

Which avoids my principal question, why do you expend so much energy on denigrating YouTube including a personal character attack on named YouTubers?

 

 

Talking to shell fabricators about build slot dates and the cost of custom extras.

 

 

During my first week in this forum I started a topic suggesting I would be prepared to build a list of the components that go into a fitout project. The usual experts rushed into the thread to condemn the very concept, they claimed all narrowboats are different making the exercise pointless.

 

Having fleshed out the budget to £43,558 plus shell I now know what a large portion of the budget goes on standard components needed in all +50 ft  narrowboats.

 

 

As you’re discovering this place is dominated by a handful of stuck in the past ‘been there done that, know everything’ pedants who’s main focus is denigrating anything that suggests modernity, new-boater, or having more money than them. Stick with it though.  If you block them you’ll find the forum starts to improve. I’ve just added another one of the boring sods to my list. 😂👍

 

Look forward to seeing your progress. Love a build, whether new or resto  👍