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Hi I am I seriously over the top with security on my boat. I have a farmers 6000v fence guard which activates when my alarm is on and a pir on the bow trips. This energises an insulated pole with my light and air horns on. The light only goes to 12v double pole contacts incase of inductive back voltages.

The high voltage unit is fed from a small 240v isolating transformer just for this unit.so the HV cables connect to pole and boat steelwork. 

Ok you lot Horror/o dear. Tell me the error of my ways.

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1 minute ago, Brian Davis said:

Tell me the error of my ways.

You are nicked sonny!

The ex coppers can comment but I suspect there will be an offence in there somewhere, especially if no warnings posted.

 

Posted
1 hour ago, Brian Davis said:

Tell me the error of my ways.

 

Tun around and go back to that big manor house in the country, you know - where the 'servants' all wear white coats and give you those cold baths.

 

You have started two threads and both verge on the dangerous and could only be dreamed up by someone who has metal health problems.

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Arr so you don't know of any problems. Think outside the box. 20 yrs ago and you suggested a boat running on batterys OOO you must be mad. So is it corrosive to the Hull and why.

The Hv unit is only the type used by farmers to control livestock. Non fatal 

Posted

1) You'll electrocute yourself, more than a few times

2) They're great at confining cattle but human beings are a bit more intelligent and can overcome them. In particular, a career thief is likely to specifically target your boat if they see a bunch of improvised security measures. A casual thief would probably favour the low hanging fruit though.

3) You said it yourself - its over the top.

4) Doesn't it scream THE BOAT IS UNOCCUPIED - a bit like an external padlock which is visible. The thief has ample time on a quiet section of canal to continue. The best security is to have defence in depth, starting with the fact that you don't know if the boat's occupied or not.

  • Greenie 1
Posted

Were I a thief I'd treat your boat as a project to defeat. Probably very easy.

 

I enjoy a mild challenge like this sometimes.

 

 

  • Greenie 1
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I now know we're I have been going rong. Get rid of the zapper bow pole.the pre recorded sound (pir operation )  Brian wake up there is someone on the boat. The pir microwave and beams that control the OUTSIDE  alarm . The two 240v half mile master blaster sirens. The strobe light and laser that goes straight up with the security spray. And ring camera bow and stern.

So you are saying that I would be best to go out for the day in a dodgy area and leave the doors open to give the impression there is someone there. 

  • Haha 1
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I remember a Boat on a creek off the Thames which had a big hand painted sign. WARNING. ACID TRAPS. 

 

After a while the PLA, who own the creek, ordered the sign to be removed. 

 

It got me wondering what sort of acid it would be. Could be a bit nasty.

 

"This area is protected by highly trained squirrels"  is quite a jovial alternative version. 

Posted (edited)
2 hours ago, Brian Davis said:

I now know we're I have been going rong. Get rid of the zapper bow pole.the pre recorded sound (pir operation )  Brian wake up there is someone on the boat. The pir microwave and beams that control the OUTSIDE  alarm . The two 240v half mile master blaster sirens. The strobe light and laser that goes straight up with the security spray. And ring camera bow and stern.

So you are saying that I would be best to go out for the day in a dodgy area and leave the doors open to give the impression there is someone there. 

 

Surely you'd notice someone breaking into the boat if you were aboard, even without a pair of "240v half mile master blaster sirens" drawing your attention to the fact.

 

And if you're not on the boat, passers-by will just put their fingers in their ears and wonder why that boat has two "240v half mile master blaster sirens" blasting away. Nobody pays the slightest attention to car alarms after all, do they? 

 

I relly don't think you've thought this through properly at all! 

 

 

 

 

 

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Posted

Surely all this OTT security will just lead miscreants into believing there's something REALLY worthwhile stealing from your boat, and rather than than deter them have the opposite effect?

 

Have you considered burying your pirate booty onshore instead? Nice bit of secluded woodland, X marks the spot on a hidden map type of deal?

You could then go full-Rambo with deadfalls, trip wires, poison arrows, tiger pits etc. Possibly even an Indiana Jones-style giant boulder to chase would-be treasure hunters ;) 

Posted

Ar I was wondering if you all had a sense of humour and you have. Dogs yes have two. Perhaps upgrade from daxhounds to dobermans. As you say you never catch anyone but what I have learnt is when people are doing something that is illegal they don't like attention being drawn to it.

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43 minutes ago, Hudds Lad said:

Surely all this OTT security will just lead miscreants into believing there's something REALLY worthwhile stealing from your boat, and rather than than deter them have the opposite effect?

 

Have you considered burying your pirate booty onshore instead? Nice bit of secluded woodland, X marks the spot on a hidden map type of deal?

You could then go full-Rambo with deadfalls, trip wires, poison arrows, tiger pits etc. Possibly even an Indiana Jones-style giant boulder to chase would-be treasure hunters ;) 

Broken bottle traps are good as well. Dig holes and idly throw the empty beer bottles onto them. The smashing sound is great. Cover the holes with natural sort of material and wait for invaders. The screaming as they cut themselves up on the glass is great ! 

 

 

An unusual and rather clever deterrent I once came across on a canal Boat was steps down into the front well deck which were not fixed down. Anyone boarding with permission will be advised not to use the step. Anyone boarding without permission who uses the step will find it slips onto the well deck floor and they either go back out of whack themselves somewhere on steel. 

 

Nobody can really argue with this in law because it is your right to not maintain your steps properly. 

 

I think you could probably keep your ash bucket in the landing zone as well. 

Posted

How about one of those remote garage door systems attached to the roof  - with two centre lies wrapped around and anchored to each bank ?

Disembark press remote and the boat is repositioned mid cut - so to speak - at least then dipping the cattle fence into the water would wake up  any 'intruder' wading out to it 😁.

 

mind other boaters wanting to quietly pass by may angrily be awaiting your return 🧨

and a modified version with hand thrown grappling hooks  might assist those with ineffectual bow thrusters etc.🫢

  • Greenie 1
Posted

Automatic fire extinguishers wired to a pir could be interesting. 

Halon. Not the band. 

 

 

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