Damian's Weekly Update 22/09/23

[cuthound]

Some interesting things in Damian's Weekly Update this week.

 

https://canalrivertrust.org.uk/boating/boating-news-and-views/the-boaters-update/boaters-update-22-september-2023?utm_source=mailchimp&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=boating_2023

 

It seems that CRT are learning, and are now using volunteers to "sign off" vegetation management before paying the contractor.

 

Also how many of us were aware that under the Water Act 2003 (effective from 2018) CRT have had to apply for extraction licences for water courses that have fed canals since there inception, and in some cases have been granted them with extraction limits lower than were previously allowed?

[Alan de Enfield]

46 minutes ago, cuthound said:

CRT have had to apply for extraction licences for water courses that have fed canals since there inception, and in some cases have been granted them with extraction limits lower than were previously allowed?

 

And, with the long-hot Summers that we are getting the extraction limits will undoubtably be lowered even further.

 

Water (lack of, and access to) will likely be the 'background' to the next world war.

[Tonka]

1 hour ago, cuthound said:

Some interesting things in Damian's Weekly Update this week.

 

https://canalrivertrust.org.uk/boating/boating-news-and-views/the-boaters-update/boaters-update-22-september-2023?utm_source=mailchimp&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=boating_2023

 

It seems that CRT are learning, and are now using volunteers to "sign off" vegetation management before paying the contractor.

 

Also how many of us were aware that under the Water Act 2003 (effective from 2018) CRT have had to apply for extraction licences for water courses that have fed canals since there inception, and in some cases have been granted them with extraction limits lower than were previously allowed?

Did they not belong to the Canal society that built the canals

[Rob-M]

I thought it interesting that CRT are spending millions on reservoir maintenance but seem to now have to pay EA for water to feed the canals.

[beerbeerbeerbeerbeer]

I think we’re talking about extraction from rivers??

 

I understand CRT pay to extract water from reservoirs they don’t own. 
But didn’t realise they had to gain a license to extract from (some) rivers. 

[PeterF]

It has been going on for some time, I recall it being mentioned by CRT in e!ails anout water shortages in the past couple of yearsstating that the EA were now limiting river water top ups that they had normally used. One I do know of was at Luddenden Foot on the Rochdale. I think another was CRTs wish to extract from the River Goyt bevause the water from Todd Brook that they would normally have taken into the reservoir was now being lost to the River Goyt. I can not recall if they did get a license for this or not or if it was just a long process.

 

[Cheshire cat]

Extraction from the Gout has been happening at significant cost

[beerbeerbeerbeerbeer]

Yes of course the River Goyt. 
Which they were (are ?) pumping up to Whaley Bridge to keep the Macc topped up. 
 

[Allan(nb Albert)]

3 hours ago, PeterF said:

It has been going on for some time, I recall it being mentioned by CRT in e!ails anout water shortages in the past couple of yearsstating that the EA were now limiting river water top ups that they had normally used. One I do know of was at Luddenden Foot on the Rochdale. I think another was CRTs wish to extract from the River Goyt bevause the water from Todd Brook that they would normally have taken into the reservoir was now being lost to the River Goyt. I can not recall if they did get a license for this or not or if it was just a long process.

 

 

2 hours ago, Cheshire cat said:

Extraction from the Gout has been happening at significant cost

 

3 hours ago, PeterF said:

It has been going on for some time, I recall it being mentioned by CRT in e!ails anout water shortages in the past couple of yearsstating that the EA were now limiting river water top ups that they had normally used. One I do know of was at Luddenden Foot on the Rochdale. I think another was CRTs wish to extract from the River Goyt bevause the water from Todd Brook that they would normally have taken into the reservoir was now being lost to the River Goyt. I can not recall if they did get a license for this or not or if it was just a long process.

 

The requirement for extraction licences has been known about since before CRT was formed. It was also known that a high probability existed that CRT would not be able to extract water from some rivers in times of drought.

 

Back in 2012, I wrote about the long term threat to the Mon & Brec -

https://narrowboatworld.com/4076-twin-threat-to-mon-a-brec

[MPR]

The Wey & Arun has suffered this for years