Eurovision 2023

[mrsmelly]

17 hours ago, manxmike said:

Ah, but do you remember the milk maids with the entry from Poland?

I had never heard of them until your post, and as I never watch eu song contest I would never have seen them. So thanks very much to yourself and u tube 

[Neil TNC]

On 10/05/2023 at 13:00, andyberg said:

Wango Lane bridge no9 out of order until tomorrow lunch time at the earliest…Thats my booked slot into docks missed tomorrow.

Wango Lane so much better than Handcocks or Hancocks or Handcooks, or however CaRT are spelling it today. We are going down later in the year for 2 x 7days (FREE!)...all we have to do is get there....

[Pluto]

19 hours ago, Neil TNC said:

Wango Lane so much better than Handcocks or Hancocks or Handcooks, or however CaRT are spelling it today. We are going down later in the year for 2 x 7days (FREE!)...all we have to do is get there....

Historically it is Handcock's, as he was the bridge keeper appointed after Lord Stanley complained that boatmen were leaving the bridge open.

[Mad Harold]

Watched Eurovision (reluctantly) as Woman and Sprog had it on full blast in the living room.Retired hurt to the kitchen to make a brew, but I could still hear it, so joined them in the living room.

I quite liked a few of the 'songs', Norway's entry reminded me of the old Geordie song, Blaydon Races;  "Oh me lads, ye should af seen uz gannin"

and Britains entry was ok too, and a couple of the Eastern European entries.

It not quite like the National Brass Band Championship contest, where tone quality, technical ability and musicality are judged in a full frown competition, but I found Eurovision a harmless  good laugh!

Can't comment on the judging.🐸

[ditchcrawler]

I understand its all over now

[mrsmelly]

12 minutes ago, ditchcrawler said:

I understand its all over now

Oh good, I can watch the telly and switch radio back on now then.

[ditchcrawler]

16 minutes ago, mrsmelly said:

Oh good, I can watch the telly and switch radio back on now then.

The BBC will still be milking it for some time rather than making proper programmes 

[bizzard]

Bring back Katie Boyle, non of that dreadful shouting and shreiking.  Most of it totally tuneless, just shouting like semi Rap and jumping about, more like gymnastic display's. Chimpanzee's could write better songs.

[cuthound]

4 hours ago, Mad Harold said:

Watched Eurovision (reluctantly) as Woman and Sprog had it on full blast in the living room.Retired hurt to the kitchen to make a brew, but I could still hear it, so joined them in the living room.

I quite liked a few of the 'songs', Norway's entry reminded me of the old Geordie song, Blaydon Races;  "Oh me lads, ye should af seen uz gannin"

and Britains entry was ok too, and a couple of the Eastern European entries.

It not quite like the National Brass Band Championship contest, where tone quality, technical ability and musicality are judged in a full frown competition, but I found Eurovision a harmless  good laugh!

Can't comment on the judging.🐸

 

Sounds like you need some noise isolating earphones.

 

I can thoroughly recommend Etymotic ER2's.

🤣😅

[mrsmelly]

2 hours ago, bizzard said:

Bring back Katie Boyle, non of that dreadful shouting and shreiking.  Most of it totally tuneless, just shouting like semi Rap and jumping about, more like gymnastic display's. Chimpanzee's could write better songs.

If the eu song contest had people with this kind of talent then it would be worth watching.

 

[Tony Brooks]

What I want to know is how much the EBU paid the BBC for the endless adverts, including large chunks of the "news". I would also like to know how much out of pocket the BBC is on producing the thing. I suspect more cuts to quality programming soon to pay for it.

[Guest]

The problem is when people take it all too seriously it's rarely been a song competition as such for a while now the whole thing has to be seen for what it is a bloody good laugh, interspersed with the occasional half decent song like Belgium put forward. Sweden's song last year was good too.

 

As one of the presenters said (paraphrased) "with all the cr@p going on the world right now it's good to just have a bit of a blast".

 

The UK was let down down by poor audio with Muller's voice sounding drowned out by the music and to be honest she was flat in parts too. She sang it better in rehearsals allegedly.

 

And of course for anybody that doesn't want to watch it there is always this......

 

 

Edited May 14, 2023 by M_JG

[Ronaldo47]

Not sure if this refers to turning your  TV Off, or using the allernative offering of the BBC Red Button service. The  Red Button channel (Freeview channel 601) was also broadcasting Eurovision, at least it was at the end when the winner was being announced.  

[Tony Brooks]

10 minutes ago, M_JG said:

The problem is when people take it all too seriously it's rarely been a song competition as such for a while now the whole thing has to be seen for what it is a bloody good laugh, interspersed with the occasional half decent song like Belgium put forward. Sweden's song last year was good too.

 

As one of the presenters said (paraphrased) "with all the cr@p going on the world right now it's good to just have a bit of a blast".

 

The UK was let down down by poor audio with Muller's voice sounding drowned out by the music and to be honest she was flat in parts too. She sang it better in rehearsals allegedly.

 

And of course for anybody that doesn't want to watch it there is always this......

 

 

 

Except, I suspect that all those who watch TV legally have paid a significant sum to turn it off.  Also, from the few snips I heard, they also probably paid a lot of money for very poor sound control, mixing and balancing. I and may others I am sure do not appreciate what sounded like morons "having a bit of a blast" at their expense.

[Guest]

4 minutes ago, Tony Brooks said:

 

Except, I suspect that all those who watch TV legally have paid a significant sum to turn it off.  Also, from the few snips I heard, they also probably paid a lot of money for very poor sound control, mixing and balancing. I and may others I am sure do not appreciate what sounded like morons "having a bit of a blast" at their expense.

 

Unfortunately Tony the BBC as a public broadcaster has an obligation to cater for a broad range of tastes, not just fans of Radio 3 output.

 

Here you go, this will cheer you up no end, or may be not.

 

 

 

 

However you are correct on the audio issues, the UK suffered from poor audio the most I would say.

14 minutes ago, Ronaldo47 said:

Not sure if this refers to turning your  TV Off, or using the allernative offering of the BBC Red Button service. The  Red Button channel (Freeview channel 601) was also broadcasting Eurovision, at least it was at the end when the winner was being announced.  

 

The symbol on the button is widely recognised as 'standby' - which has a similar effect as a an old 'off' button on TV's from the stone age....

 

The red button is exactly that, a red button.

 

HTH

 

 

[Tony Brooks]

Just now, M_JG said:

 

Unfortunately Tony the BBC as a public broadcaster has an obligation to cater for a broad range of tastes, not just fans of Radio 3 output.

 

Here you go, this will cheer you up no end, or may be not.

 

 

 

 

However you are correct on the audio issues, the UK suffered from poor audio the most I would say.

 

I agree, but it seems they do not do that. When did you last hear a programme of what used to be called light classical music? The BBC have walked away and left it to Classic FM. How many weekend days have the BBC broadcast sport, in its widest sense, on BBC1 and BBC2 simultaneously, laving those not interested in sport to switch off. How come they can broadcast two children's channels but are unable to broadcast something other than sport at times.

 

If you want boom, boom, little melody or harmony music, then the BBC gives you that in spades. If you want a bit of gentle entertainment, then the BBC has put it on commercial stations. They can't even get decent sound quality for major productions like Eurovision or the Coronation concert.

 

Unless they start serving all tastes, the sooner they are forced to go subscription the better.

[Guest]

6 minutes ago, Tony Brooks said:

 

I agree, but it seems they do not do that. When did you last hear a programme of what used to be called light classical music? The BBC have walked away and left it to Classic FM. How many weekend days have the BBC broadcast sport, in its widest sense, on BBC1 and BBC2 simultaneously, laving those not interested in sport to switch off. How come they can broadcast two children's channels but are unable to broadcast something other than sport at times.

 

If you want boom, boom, little melody or harmony music, then the BBC gives you that in spades. If you want a bit of gentle entertainment, then the BBC has put it on commercial stations. They can't even get decent sound quality for major productions like Eurovision or the Coronation concert.

 

Unless they start serving all tastes, the sooner they are forced to go subscription the better.

 

Does radio three no longer exist?

[mrsmelly]

4 minutes ago, Tony Brooks said:

 

I agree, but it seems they do not do that. When did you last hear a programme of what used to be called light classical music? The BBC have walked away and left it to Classic FM. How many weekend days have the BBC broadcast sport, in its widest sense, on BBC1 and BBC2 simultaneously, laving those not interested in sport to switch off. How come they can broadcast two children's channels but are unable to broadcast something other than sport at times.

 

If you want boom, boom, little melody or harmony music, then the BBC gives you that in spades. If you want a bit of gentle entertainment, then the BBC has put it on commercial stations. They can't even get decent sound quality for major productions like Eurovision or the Coronation concert.

 

Unless they start serving all tastes, the sooner they are forced to go subscription the better.

Whilst I am not a fan ( understatement ) of the eu song contest, in fact I couldnt watch it if you paid me, I do feel the Beeb should cover it. After all the Beeb shows worse stuff ie Football and Cricket to mention but two. The eu song contest is dross but it is harmless dross and some people like it. As to your last sentence, I am of the opinion that the ( unique way we are funded ) will hopefuly soon be coming to an end and the Beeb will have to be run in a manner to pay for itself like most other businesses, rather than enforced financing.

1 minute ago, M_JG said:

 

Does radio three no longer exist?

Only for those with one foot in the grave 🤣

[Guest]

4 minutes ago, mrsmelly said:

Whilst I am not a fan ( understatement ) of the eu song contest, in fact I couldnt watch it if you paid me, I do feel the Beeb should cover it. After all the Beeb shows worse stuff ie Football and Cricket to mention but two. The eu song contest is dross but it is harmless dross and some people like it. As to your last sentence, I am of the opinion that the ( unique way we are funded ) will hopefuly soon be coming to an end and the Beeb will have to be run in a manner to pay for itself like most other businesses, rather than enforced financing.

Only for those with one foot in the grave 🤣

 

Well I don't think for one second that change will improve the 'dumbing down' some seem to be unhappy about. In fact it will make it worse and will bring with it commercial breaks too.

[mrsmelly]

1 minute ago, M_JG said:

 

Well I don't think for one second that change will improve the 'dumbing down' some seem to be unhappy about. In fact it will make it worse and will bring with it commercial breaks too.

I used to hate commercial breaks, but with my hourly visits ( for comfort lol ) I now wish the Beeb followed others and had commercial breaks 🤣

[blackrose]

When did Eurovision become so popular? By the late 70s early 80s most people thought it was shit and from what I can see the music hasn't improved. I think it was the Aussies and gays in the 90s who decided that Abba were a cool 70s throwback and then I guess the same thing happened to Eurovision. I still think it's all shit. 💩

[Tony Brooks]

17 minutes ago, M_JG said:

Does radio three no longer exist?

 

Yes it does, but it seems to specialise in the heavier end of classical music and a certain amount of jazz, from what I have heard the more esoteric, but I hardly ever listen to it. It does not cater for the light end of classical and semi-classical music.

 

If commercial stations can survive on what some would call specialist types of programming, then it shows there is an audience for it, so the BBC should cater for that audience if they really are serving the whole population. As an example, I challenge you to find similar content on BBC radio to Angel FM (it is on the internet). I very much doubt that you will, and if you looked at the way the BBC used to schedule similar content in the past, it was obvious that they were trying to deplete the advance numbers so they could ditch the programmes. Also remember that a local radio station controller was reported to have told his late nigh presenters that he did not want his programmes filled up with old people. Naturally, when the press got hold of it the BBC denied it.

[Machpoint005]

49 minutes ago, M_JG said:

 

Does radio three no longer exist?

 

Yes, it does, but don't tell anyone!

 

 

 

There's a lot more than "serious" classical music broadcast, too.

 

Jazz

World music

Spoken word

Early music

Contemporary art music

Film scores

 

[Guest]

19 minutes ago, Tony Brooks said:

 

Yes it does, but it seems to specialise in the heavier end of classical music and a certain amount of jazz, from what I have heard the more esoteric, but I hardly ever listen to it. It does not cater for the light end of classical and semi-classical music.

 

If commercial stations can survive on what some would call specialist types of programming, then it shows there is an audience for it, so the BBC should cater for that audience if they really are serving the whole population. As an example, I challenge you to find similar content on BBC radio to Angel FM (it is on the internet). I very much doubt that you will, and if you looked at the way the BBC used to schedule similar content in the past, it was obvious that they were trying to deplete the advance numbers so they could ditch the programmes. Also remember that a local radio station controller was reported to have told his late nigh presenters that he did not want his programmes filled up with old people. Naturally, when the press got hold of it the BBC denied it.

 

TBH Tony I dont actually watch that much TV, Mrs. M_JG watches more but predominately stuff on streaming channels so I suppose I would be a beneficiary of the Beeb going the subscription route as we possibly might not bother.

[Machpoint005]

...oh, and light classical too.

 

 

 

It's important to remember that compared with TV, radio programming is really, really cheap. 

 

The pictures are often better, too.