Alan de Enfield Posted April 30, 2023 Report Share Posted April 30, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Owls Den said: What is this little cruiser with a sloping transom ? Its called a 'Canoe stern' very common on sailing boats and early power boats, Improves performance, reduces drag. Pretty much irrelevant for a 'square' steel tubed narrowboat - maybe they just found the lines pleasing. Edited April 30, 2023 by Alan de Enfield Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnetman Posted April 30, 2023 Report Share Posted April 30, 2023 I would call it an upswept stern. Canoe stern is usually associated with craft which have a rounded back end but not the slope. Salters steamers have this type of stern but I don't know if they call it a canoe stern. Maybe they do. This is the inspection lunch I keep on the country estate. Photo was from a number of yars ago but it is basically the same Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Flight Posted April 30, 2023 Author Report Share Posted April 30, 2023 1 hour ago, magnetman said: I would call it an upswept stern. Canoe stern is usually associated with craft which have a rounded back end but not the slope. Salters steamers have this type of stern but I don't know if they call it a canoe stern. Maybe they do. This is the inspection lunch I keep on the country estate. Photo was from a number of yars ago but it is basically the same Wait what you have an inspection launch on a country estate? Are you a Baron or something M’lud Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnetman Posted April 30, 2023 Report Share Posted April 30, 2023 Lord of the Manor old boy. one also maintains a boat residence in the City. As you do. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rusty69 Posted April 30, 2023 Report Share Posted April 30, 2023 2 hours ago, Alan de Enfield said: Its called a 'Canoe stern' very common on sailing boats and early power boats, Improves performance, reduces drag. Pretty much irrelevant for a 'square' steel tubed narrowboat - maybe they just found the lines pleasing. What a loverly retrousse transom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtB Posted April 30, 2023 Report Share Posted April 30, 2023 2 minutes ago, rusty69 said: What a loverly retrousse transom. Clever the way it stays moored up at 90 degrees to the bank. I doubt any of mine would do that unless there was a pontoon involved! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rusty69 Posted April 30, 2023 Report Share Posted April 30, 2023 1 minute ago, MtB said: Clever the way it stays moored up at 90 degrees to the bank. I doubt any of mine would do that unless there was a pontoon involved! Good for aquick get away, I spose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan de Enfield Posted April 30, 2023 Report Share Posted April 30, 2023 1 hour ago, MtB said: Clever the way it stays moored up at 90 degrees to the bank. I doubt any of mine would do that unless there was a pontoon involved! As is typical with yachty boats you moor up both bow and stern. In the Med. you follow a rib thru the marina to your given mooring, reverse into the mooring and a 'boy' in the Rib gives you your bow line which is anchored forward of the mooring. You can see the Foward mooring buoys in the picture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Mack Posted April 30, 2023 Report Share Posted April 30, 2023 56 minutes ago, Alan de Enfield said: As is typical with yachty boats you moor up both bow and stern. In the Med. you follow a rib thru the marina to your given mooring, reverse into the mooring and a 'boy' in the Rib gives you your bow line which is anchored forward of the mooring. You can see the Foward mooring buoys in the picture. The narrow boats in Battlebridge Basin were moored the same way. Sterns on to the bank, bows roped together and a couple of mooring buoys each end roughly in line with the bows. And each mooring buoy was attached to an old engine block on the bottom of the basin - the cylinder heads had been removed and I was told the projecting head studs helped stop the thing being dragged across the bottom. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Herne Posted May 2, 2023 Report Share Posted May 2, 2023 On 30/04/2023 at 20:03, David Mack said: The narrow boats in Battlebridge Basin were moored the same way. Sterns on to the bank, bows roped together and a couple of mooring buoys each end roughly in line with the bows. And each mooring buoy was attached to an old engine block on the bottom of the basin - the cylinder heads had been removed and I was told the projecting head studs helped stop the thing being dragged across the bottom. Hawne Basin is like that today. Rafts of boats on all sides. I don't know what the buoys are tied to though! https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@52.4574826,-2.0403864,138m/data=!3m1!1e3?hl=en Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tam & Di Posted May 2, 2023 Report Share Posted May 2, 2023 (edited) On 30/04/2023 at 16:11, magnetman said: I would call it an upswept stern. Canoe stern is usually associated with craft which have a rounded back end but not the slope. Salters steamers have this type of stern but I don't know if they call it a canoe stern. Maybe they do. I'd agree - to a greater or lesser extent a canoe stern echoes the shape of a canoe, as one would expect: Edited May 2, 2023 by Tam & Di Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sigsegv Posted May 2, 2023 Report Share Posted May 2, 2023 (edited) On 27/04/2023 at 17:21, Ray T said: Built by a few different builders over the years. Reeves and Pinder being two of them Also the now defunct Probuild, which as I understand it is in some way related (in a familial sense) to Reeves Edited May 2, 2023 by sigsegv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBiscuits Posted May 3, 2023 Report Share Posted May 3, 2023 On 28/04/2023 at 12:30, magnetman said: Back on topic are there any narrow boat bows which are unique and never done before or since? 2 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Herne Posted May 3, 2023 Report Share Posted May 3, 2023 (edited) I saw an odd bow the other day on a boat named 'Spider' - rather dilapidated, "G. J. C. Co. lettering', moored inside a rusty Dutch barge on the Trent near Beeston. The stem post is angled backward at a constant angle from the waterline.Seems ideal for ramming but not for a narrowboat. Rest of the boat looks like a fairly normal trad hull. It was difficult to get a picture in its position but I'll try on the way back up. EDIT: thanks to @magnetman, it's clearly a replica of this one http://www.steamershistorical.co.uk/steamers_spider.htm: Edited May 3, 2023 by Francis Herne 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnetman Posted May 3, 2023 Report Share Posted May 3, 2023 That boat is a replica Blisworth tunnel tug. I think there is another one called PILOT. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray T Posted May 3, 2023 Report Share Posted May 3, 2023 Steam powered HASTY is a replica of Blisworth tunnel tug HASTY 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtB Posted May 3, 2023 Report Share Posted May 3, 2023 1 hour ago, Francis Herne said: I saw an odd bow the other day on a boat named 'Spider' - rather dilapidated, "G. J. C. Co. lettering', moored inside a rusty Dutch barge on the Trent near Beeston. The stem post is angled backward at a constant angle from the waterline.Seems ideal for ramming but not for a narrowboat. Rest of the boat looks like a fairly normal trad hull. It was difficult to get a picture in its position but I'll try on the way back up. EDIT: thanks to @magnetman, it's clearly a replica of this one http://www.steamershistorical.co.uk/steamers_spider.htm: If ever I have another one built, I'm having the bow done like that. A delightfully elegant hull in every way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnetman Posted May 3, 2023 Report Share Posted May 3, 2023 Another unsusual type was the replica Bridgewater canal tugs put together by John Rickaby in the 80's. They had Kelvin engines in a front engine room with hyrdaulic drive. I was offered one of the boats (wooden cabin steel hull) complete with Kelvin for a very good price but the cabin seemed to dodgy. Someone bought it and tidied it up, tool the Kelvin out and I think it has a Beta Marine or something in it now. Quite nice I think there were possibly three of them built. Frodsham was the one for sale on the Wey a few yars ago for a very attractive price. [img]https://boats-from.co.uk/sites/default/files/styles/large2/public/products-images/2017-10/103307/103307-92924.jpg[img] 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Mack Posted May 3, 2023 Report Share Posted May 3, 2023 7 minutes ago, magnetman said: Frodsham was the one for sale on the Wey a few yars ago for a very attractive price. Now owned by a forum member. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan de Enfield Posted May 3, 2023 Report Share Posted May 3, 2023 1 hour ago, magnetman said: Another unsusual type was the replica Bridgewater canal tugs put together by John Rickaby in the 80's. They had Kelvin engines in a front engine room with hyrdaulic drive. I was offered one of the boats (wooden cabin steel hull) complete with Kelvin for a very good price but the cabin seemed to dodgy. Someone bought it and tidied it up, tool the Kelvin out and I think it has a Beta Marine or something in it now. Quite nice I think there were possibly three of them built. Frodsham was the one for sale on the Wey a few yars ago for a very attractive price. [img]https://boats-from.co.uk/sites/default/files/styles/large2/public/products-images/2017-10/103307/103307-92924.jpg[img] Thats a huge horn - it looks like a fog-horn from from a Lighthhouse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hudds Lad Posted May 3, 2023 Report Share Posted May 3, 2023 38 minutes ago, Alan de Enfield said: Thats a huge horn - it looks like a fog-horn from from a Lighthhouse That's not a horn, it's a siege mortar for clearing the road ahead 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuthound Posted May 3, 2023 Report Share Posted May 3, 2023 43 minutes ago, Hudds Lad said: That's not a horn, it's a siege mortar for clearing the road ahead No, it's a megaphone to shout at passing boats that don't slow down... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rusty69 Posted May 4, 2023 Report Share Posted May 4, 2023 On 28/04/2023 at 12:30, magnetman said: Back on topic are there any narrow boat bows which are unique and never done before or since? This one has a rather unusual front end, though probably not unique. Up for sale on FB at the mo. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnetman Posted May 4, 2023 Report Share Posted May 4, 2023 Ah. a Jebus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rusty69 Posted May 4, 2023 Report Share Posted May 4, 2023 1 minute ago, magnetman said: Ah. a Jebus No need to take the lords name in vain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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