alan_fincher Posted March 20, 2023 Report Posted March 20, 2023 https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/402585824963?hash=item5dbbfc2ec3:g:HVcAAOSwP6RgXho7&amdata=enc%3AAQAHAAAA4HnyxG5VBFSprRaHzHdEDN12L%2Bt2c6mhtrP7JUTVXQKi2lf1ANAhoOTYuE2U5YPNeZ3VP%2FAOSxYIqB1y85ej5l26mIJKtfI3bDFDwdyY3WRE1buq%2B9eWC8jEifZRRl%2ByI02VryFHZJoMmwaCmMMYcXGPkYNMqCYo3hrzcWbsR0uP%2Fdz1PRjsmaBquZi6wvymgZMufVVTJR9v8gnAS2UQjVhIevS1i3l0MCB7fBr2M87JSeupLDWjl9yPpPfpL9do%2FXPfwCa59%2BgHFPhQNVJ3jp3po8r7VPBANt084wOyLLbQ|tkp%3ABk9SR4TuiOzfYQ
Alan de Enfield Posted March 20, 2023 Report Posted March 20, 2023 10 hours work at £50 an hour. I've just be getting some quotes for doing a bit of fencing - £200 labour per day + materials.
MtB Posted March 20, 2023 Report Posted March 20, 2023 I bet the bare cans unpainted cost £100 each...
Rebotco Posted March 20, 2023 Report Posted March 20, 2023 1, 2 and 3 Gallon can's with liquored solid brass ’Shaftsbury’ classic watering can Well I hope his watering cans are better than his grammar/spelling!! At that price, I'd want solid gold with diamond insets.
beerbeerbeerbeerbeer Posted March 20, 2023 Report Posted March 20, 2023 https://www.mgboatfitters.co.uk/ it’s these guys ain’t it.
Athy Posted March 20, 2023 Report Posted March 20, 2023 It doesn't look bad value for a set of three painted cans. Our three-gallon model cost about £90 from Jane Selkirk about 15 years ago, and that's steel, not brass.
BilgePump Posted March 20, 2023 Report Posted March 20, 2023 So say £120, £170 and £210 for the 1,2,3 gallon. then deduct ebay fees of about 14%, price of decent cans, paint, labour, packing, packing materials etc and then add on high inflation.
alan_fincher Posted March 20, 2023 Author Report Posted March 20, 2023 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Athy said: It doesn't look bad value for a set of three painted cans. Our three-gallon model cost about £90 from Jane Selkirk about 15 years ago, and that's steel, not brass. They are mostly steel - only the bits left unpainted are brass. (Ad if they are left unpainted, there is no time or effort spent by the painter!......) 25 minutes ago, MtB said: I bet the bare cans unpainted cost £100 each... I suspect they will be the Black Country Metalworks ones. £65 for a 2 gallon. https://www.blackcountrymetalworks.co.uk/shaftsbury-classic-watering-can-polished-brass-medium.htm Edited March 20, 2023 by alan_fincher
LadyG Posted March 20, 2023 Report Posted March 20, 2023 (edited) I think they look very smart, are they hand painted, could I have a go, I have a galvanised jug which I use for flowers, it's going rusty inside, so I'll have to clean it up and give it a spray, inside and out? What spray would do, maybe a graphite radiator paint, which I have? I have a roses type stool which I fished out of the cut, I would not say it's a professional paint job, I don't think I could do much better, but I could use it for a stencil. Do I use Humbrol enamels? Edited March 20, 2023 by LadyG
Athy Posted March 20, 2023 Report Posted March 20, 2023 16 minutes ago, alan_fincher said: I suspect they will be the Black Country Metalworks ones. https://www.blackcountrymetalworks.co.uk/shaftsbury-classic-watering-can-polished-brass-medium.htm Yes, so do I, as the advert says that they are. They're painted by "AKJ"; whether that's a single artist or a company, I don't know.
magnetman Posted March 20, 2023 Report Posted March 20, 2023 35 minutes ago, Rebotco said: 1, 2 and 3 Gallon can's with liquored solid brass ’Shaftsbury’ classic watering can Well I hope his watering cans are better than his grammar/spelling!! At that price, I'd want solid gold with diamond insets. I'd be wanting them full of finest Highland Malt. They look shockingly naff with the brass handles. Very infra dig!
Nightwatch Posted March 20, 2023 Report Posted March 20, 2023 I wouldn’t pay £500 for them. I don’t have £500. But to a non traditional expert they are not too bad in my view. I would feel inclined to paint the handles.
BilgePump Posted March 20, 2023 Report Posted March 20, 2023 3 minutes ago, magnetman said: I'd be wanting them full of finest Highland Malt. I bet you would! 1+2+3=6 gallons 6x8 pints to the gallon = 48 48 x 568ml = over 25 litres Single malt generally costs more than £20 per litre Cut price malt and free Buckby cans. 1
Popular Post alan_fincher Posted March 20, 2023 Author Popular Post Report Posted March 20, 2023 1 minute ago, LadyG said: I think they look very smart, are they hand painted, could I have a go..... To me personally the main issue with this listing is not whether the £500 asking price can be justified on the grounds of acquiring the undecorated cans, and then the time and materials spent in painting them. If I buy a piece of painted canal ware that is not historic, but is an attempt to copy old styles by a much more recent painter, then I expect it to have at least a faintly close resemblance to pieces by genuine old canal painters. This still allows for a mass of styles, as there always was a mass of styles. However pieces like these cans don't put me in mind of any recognisable style of painting. This means that to me, the value of these items is a bit less than the raw cans, as I would have to strip them back to the galvanising before passing them to someone who knew what hey were doing to paint from scratch. 5
matty40s Posted March 20, 2023 Report Posted March 20, 2023 9 minutes ago, magnetman said: Ron Hough they are not. Too shiny ! Ron Smooth. 1 1
davem399 Posted March 20, 2023 Report Posted March 20, 2023 1 hour ago, matty40s said: Ron Smooth. Ron Seal? 1 1 2
Tam & Di Posted March 20, 2023 Report Posted March 20, 2023 "Buckby" cans they are not either - the handles are the most obviously incorrect item for cans from (or even in the style of) those from Buckby. Tam
Alan de Enfield Posted March 20, 2023 Report Posted March 20, 2023 1 hour ago, davem399 said: Ron Seal? Later on
beerbeerbeerbeerbeer Posted March 20, 2023 Report Posted March 20, 2023 Looks to me like they’re ‘factory’ painted. They seem a bit stifled.
ditchcrawler Posted March 26, 2023 Report Posted March 26, 2023 On 20/03/2023 at 11:41, Goliath said: https://www.mgboatfitters.co.uk/ it’s these guys ain’t it. I was wondering that, have quite a bit of stuff for sale mgboatfitters on eBay
dave moore Posted March 26, 2023 Report Posted March 26, 2023 I know the seller. Years ago he asked me about valuing a water can a family member had painted. I told him how long it would take me and he responded “ It took about a week “ I assume that that included drying time etc. I’m afraid that the Black Country Metalworks cans are a poor substitute for the real thing, the ones I’ve worked on are put together abroad by folk who have no knowledge of originals. Why a company based in Oswestry claims a West Midland origin, I’ve no idea.
matty40s Posted March 26, 2023 Report Posted March 26, 2023 4 hours ago, ditchcrawler said: I was wondering that, have quite a bit of stuff for sale mgboatfitters on eBay The yard is shutting down, most of the older team are too old now and theres nobody to pass the business on to.
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