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CO-OP beefies, special offer 4 for £6, (2 packs) 170 gram per burger (6oz)

Just had one swimming in OXO gravy thick with onions which were fried and softened beforehand in beef dripping, burgers were then fried until brown and crispy and left to simmer in the gravy for 15 mins, accompanied by veg, (chips and peas would've been even better, or mashed spuds even)

 

Food of the gods

 

Oh Lordy Lordy. 

 

Amen. 

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1 minute ago, nb Innisfree said:

CO-OP beefies, special offer 4 for £6, (2 packs) 170 gram per burger (6oz)

Just had one swimming in OXO gravy thick with onions which were fried and softened beforehand in beef dripping, burgers were then fried until brown and crispy and left to simmer in the gravy for 15 mins, accompanied by veg, (chips and peas would've been even better, or mashed spuds even)

 

Food of the gods

 

Oh Lordy Lordy. 

 

Amen. 

 

We love suff like this as an occasional treat.

 

Having hot dogs tonight with fried onions and American Mustard.

 

With a side of fries.

 

Nom.

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1 hour ago, nb Innisfree said:

CO-OP beefies, special offer 4 for £6, (2 packs) 170 gram per burger (6oz)

Just had one swimming in OXO gravy thick with onions which were fried and softened beforehand in beef dripping,

 

And don't forget to double your dose of statins afterwards for a few days, to get that non-HDL cholesterol reading back down into single figures!

 

 

 

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13 minutes ago, MtB said:

 

And don't forget to double your dose of statins afterwards for a few days, to get that cholesterol reading back down into single figures!

For a while I fell for the saturated fat nonsense, low fat milk, veg spread, nothing fried, now the experts tell us they were wrong and now SF is fine but carbs were the culprit, fair enough but I'm not giving up puddings, Yorkshire or otherwise. 

Or roast spuds

Or salt

"salt got the blame for the damage caused by sugar" 

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7 minutes ago, nb Innisfree said:

For a while I fell for the saturated fat nonsense, low fat milk, veg spread, nothing fried, now the experts tell us they were wrong and now SF is fine but carbs were the culprit, fair enough but I'm not giving up puddings, Yorkshire or otherwise. 

Or roast spuds

Or salt

"salt got the blame for the damage caused by sugar" 

 

 

Your own peer reviewed research?

 

 

 

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5 minutes ago, nb Innisfree said:

For a while I fell for the saturated fat nonsense, low fat milk, veg spread, nothing fried, now the experts tell us they were wrong and now SF is fine but carbs were the culprit, fair enough but I'm not giving up puddings, Yorkshire or otherwise. 

Yep, its all nonsense. Nothing other than proper milk, proper butter etc etc for myself, I dont want to die young from eating " Healthy food " Yuk.  Breakfast club meeting for a full Welsh breakfast int morning 😃

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Hang on, no you said "the experts tell us".

 

This is not the experts I've read. Who is saying this please? Excellent news if true!!

 

 

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Ah I see, its mrsmelly, the well known nutritional research scientist amongst us. EU law expert and retired copper too! 

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The only certainty is the first law of nutrition;

If it tastes nice it's bad for you.

The second law of nutrition;

One week the Daily Mail will say it gives you cancer.

The third law of nutrition;

The other week the Daily Mail will say it cures cancer.

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5 minutes ago, nb Innisfree said:

Read up on it, some are still hanging on to the old knowledge, low fat plenty of carbs etc, yet carbs, or too many are implicated with type 2 diabetes, a modern epedemic. 

 

I have read up on it - extensively, and seen nothing about how beef fat is good for you. 

 

Any links please? Much appreciated.

 

And I mean proper peer-reviewed papers in respected scientific journals, not videos by youtube fruitloops! 

 

 

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2 minutes ago, MtB said:

 

I have read up on it - extensively, and seen nothing about how beef fat is good for you. 

 

Any links please? Much appreciated.

 

And I mean proper peer-reviewed papers in respected scientific journals, not videos by youtube fruitloops! 

 

 

I'm not getting into arguments via links.

One example:stomach ulcers caused by stress/fried food, it's been forty years since it was proved they were caused by bacteria yet 20 years after that a friend was told by her GP that bacteria couldn't live in the stomach?! 

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22 minutes ago, nb Innisfree said:

I'm not getting into arguments via links.

One example:stomach ulcers caused by stress/fried food, it's been forty years since it was proved they were caused by bacteria yet 20 years after that a friend was told by her GP that bacteria couldn't live in the stomach?! 

 

That's nothing to do with non-HDL cholesterol causing heart disease. 

 

I'm not looking for an argument. Just asking for some reliable evidence as opposed to facebook gossip presented as fact. 

 

 

Presumably you can't cite any and don't wan't to look, as it would mean facing up to the need to stop eating animal fat-laden beefburgers.

 

 

DELICIOUS animal fat-laden beefburgers....

 

 

I totally understand...

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Co Op crunchy vegetarian burgers in the freezer are surprisingly OK.

I'm a dedicated dead animal eater but did try these as they keep well without a fridge and was pleasantly surprised..

 

Not pretending to be meat they are actually made of vegetables rather than the mould which grows on fungus like some other veggie things.

 

You can't replace bacon to be fair. 

 

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12 minutes ago, magnetman said:

You can't replace bacon to be fair. 

 

True, and this is why i've been told to tart taking statins!

 

And no-one has come up with any evidence yet to support their wild assertions that its a load of ol' borrocks. So I conclude it's true. 

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1 hour ago, MtB said:

 

That's nothing to do with non-HDL cholesterol causing heart disease. 

 

I'm not looking for an argument. Just asking for some reliable evidence as opposed to facebook gossip presented as fact. 

 

 

Presumably you can't cite any and don't wan't to look, as it would mean facing up to the need to stop eating animal fat-laden beefburgers.

 

 

DELICIOUS animal fat-laden beefburgers....

 

 

I totally understand...

To be honest I can't be arsed, anyway it'll prob descend into a long 'discussion' with no proof either way. 

Yes I like a beefburger now and then, moderation which I always try to live by. 

 

I was using the bacteria example to show an expert like a GP can be in the dark

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13 minutes ago, nb Innisfree said:

To be honest I can't be arsed, anyway it'll prob descend into a long 'discussion' with no proof either way. 

 

Hardly, as all I'm asking for is some proof! 

 

But I take your point. I ask for proof, you swerve the question. I ask again, you swerve again because there isn't any proof, and so it descends as you describe....

 

Hang on though! There is proof in spades that beef fat kills you. I can post loads of links. It's you that said "Experts tell us its rubbish" and when pressed, can't actually tell us who these experts are.

 

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7 minutes ago, nb Innisfree said:

To be honest I can't be arsed, anyway it'll prob descend into a long 'discussion' with no proof either way. 

Yes I like a beefburger now and then, moderation which I always try to live by. 

 

I was using the bacteria example to show an expert like a GP can be in the dark

A GP can never be an expert. Their job title does not allow it. 

 

If you have issues and see a General Practitioner their job is to refer you to someone who hopefully is an expert.

 

I'm certain that a GP will be in the dark about almost everything to do with one's elf. They can advise and refer while remaining in the dark. Lack of knowledge is abundantly clear in my limited experience. 

 

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3 minutes ago, magnetman said:

Lack of knowledge is abundantly clear in my limited experience. 

 

My own phrase too. I notice the more one learns about a subject, the more one can see how much one still has to learn. 

 

Consequently, I notice anyone claiming to be an expert generally isn't, and people who deny their expertise when accused of being an expert in a given subject, often actually are very expert indeed. 

 

 

 

 

 

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9 minutes ago, magnetman said:

A GP can never be an expert. Their job title does not allow it. 

 

If you have issues and see a General Practitioner their job is to refer you to someone who hopefully is an expert.

 

I'm certain that a GP will be in the dark about almost everything to do with one's elf. They can advise and refer while remaining in the dark. Lack of knowledge is abundantly clear in my limited experience. 

 

 

Bang on in the main. Though I dont agree with your last sentance. Its the lack of 'specialist' knowledge that can be an issue, and the knowledge of when to refer on.

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Beef fat will kill  If melted in a bucket and you leave your head submerged long enough to drown in it while it congeals. 
 

otherwise a little bit spread on toast now and again is good for the heart for it cheers you up

 

but I’m no expert,

no really I’m not. 
 

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2 minutes ago, M_JG said:

 

Bang on in the main. Though I dont agree with your last sentance. Its the lack of 'specialist' knowledge that can be an issue, and the knowledge of when to refer on.

I agree I should have added the word 'specialist'. My post may have come across as being disparaging of GPs. I'm not and I have full respect for them. They must have a lot of patience (sp)  to deal with so many different people. 

 

Good luck but try to be more available regarding existing medical conditions. It must be a hell of a job and one would hope well paid.

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