Humber Barge - free to good home . You want it, you move it (out of the marina)

[Alan de Enfield]

 

Push the boat out: 95-foot Brighton barge going for free — if you can get it out of the marina

The 102-year-old Humber barge 98 is being given away on Boatshed.com to a suitable owner who — crucially — will be able to transport the enormous boat elsewhere. As the listing puts it: “she cannot remain!”

Covering around 320m² (3,444 sq ft) and set over two levels, the barge has a “cavernous interior” with three large, multi-functional spaces, a galley, office area, four toilets and plenty of storage.

 

Now “one of Brighton’s famous local landmarks”, the barge has had several reincarnations in its century of existence. Built in 1921, it enjoyed a long and industrious career transporting grain along northern England’s waterways – until it was moved south to Brighton Marina in 1996 and converted into a floating Chinese restaurant called The Pagoda.

The restaurant remained afloat until 2016, when the boat was sold and turned into a non-profit community and youth hub by the marina owners. It has been managed by arts and environmental charity O N C A, who moved out of the barge at the end of last year.

 

“The end of our time on the beloved barge has come much too soon for us,” wrote O N C A in a blog post. “We are deeply grateful to the beautiful boat itself for being a truly magical container for all this magnificent living and learning that we’ve been privileged to experience on and with O N C A Barge.”

They added: “The sale and removal of the Barge will leave a big gap at the marina – and for Brighton overall – in terms of diverse heritage, community and cultural provision.”

 

Push the boat out: 95-foot Brighton barge going for free — if you can get it out of the marina (msn.com)

 

 

Edited February 15, 2023 by Alan de Enfield

[rusty69]

What is a hubber barge?

[Mad Harold]

2 minutes ago, rusty69 said:

What is a hubber barge?

Think he means  Humber Barge.

Being brought up in Hull, I used to see them ploughing up the Humber fully loaded with about a foot of freeboard.

[Alan de Enfield]

11 minutes ago, rusty69 said:

What is a hubber barge?

 

It is a family of tents - there is the Hubba, the HubbaHubba and the Mutha Hubba

 

Take your expedition to the next level, minus the excess weight. The MSR Hubba NX 1 Person Tent weighs in at just over 1kg, making it ideal for multi-day hikes as well as wild camping

 

The Hubba Hubba NX Tent from MSR is a lightweight, three season dome tent designed for fast and light backpacking adventures across the globe.

 

MSR have designed the Mutha Hubba NX 3 as an inner pitch first tent, it uses a unified pole system (all the sections are joined together) to make pitching fast and simple thanks to the colour coded poles and attachment points. 

 

[TheBiscuits]

Will it fit on the North Oxford? 

 

 

 

 

 

[ditchcrawler]

1 hour ago, TheBiscuits said:

Will it fit on the North Oxford? 

 

 

 

 

 

Only if you contact CRT first

[Guest]

1 hour ago, TheBiscuits said:

Will it fit on the North Oxford? 

 

 

 

 

 

 

No.

 

But I doubt it would stop somebody trying..

[Momac]

I wouldn't like to guess what  the cost would be to remove it from Brighton .

But free of charge on the basis it is removed does not seem like much of a deal.

 

 

 

[Tam & Di]

It depends on its condition, whether or not it still has an engine, and that you have somewhere to take it among other things. It says it was afloat until 2016, but doesn't say whether ONCA had to do any repairs or if it has ever been docked for survey and hull painting. Someone who knows what's what could fetch up with a good deal, but someone thinking it would be a cheap home is on a hiding to nothing.

 

Tam

[Momac]

15 minutes ago, Tam & Di said:

It depends on its condition, whether or not it still has an engine, and that you have somewhere to take it among other things. It says it was afloat until 2016, but doesn't say whether ONCA had to do any repairs or if it has ever been docked for survey and hull painting. Someone who knows what's what could fetch up with a good deal, but someone thinking it would be a cheap home is on a hiding to nothing.

 

Tam

The advert says 

No engine

I would guess its past history as a restaurant could also mean no steering .

 

[MtB]

I'd imagine there is something really expensive wrong with it or the marina could take it as a gift, and rent it out to someone to run it as a restaurant again. 

[Momac]

7 hours ago, MtB said:

I'd imagine there is something really expensive wrong with it or the marina could take it as a gift, and rent it out to someone to run it as a restaurant again. 

A similar scenario occurred at the marina  where I keep my boat . A former norwegian ferry which had been a bar for years  was sold on condition it was removed.

But a decade later it is still there and in use as a bar/restaurant.

 

 

[mrsmelly]

It looks a good candidate for a gas axe to me.

[Tam & Di]

That might cost more than the value of the scrap.

 

Tam

Edited February 16, 2023 by Tam & Di

[ditchcrawler]

Maybe they read the article about the paddle wheel restaurant and its made them twitchy. 

 

[TheBiscuits]

We understand that she needs attention and can provide information to help understand this - an extremely in-depth history and survey/dive surveys in 2010/2011 and a full condition survey in September 2022 describe her exactly as she is and what needs to be done. Please email for copies of information.

 

https://www.boatshed.com/humber_barge_98-boat-315157.html

[David Mack]

5 minutes ago, TheBiscuits said:

We understand that she needs attention and can provide information to help understand this - an extremely in-depth history and survey/dive surveys in 2010/2011 and a full condition survey in September 2022 describe her exactly as she is and what needs to be done. Please email for copies of information.

 

https://www.boatshed.com/humber_barge_98-boat-315157.html

The below-the-waterline survey is more than a decade old. So virtually worthless then!

[enigmatic]

On 15/02/2023 at 14:18, Alan de Enfield said:

 

Push the boat out: 95-foot Brighton barge going for free — if you can get it out of the marina

The 102-year-old Humber barge 98 is being given away on Boatshed.com to a suitable owner who — crucially — will be able to transport the enormous boat elsewhere. As the listing puts it: “she cannot remain!”

Covering around 320m² (3,444 sq ft) and set over two levels, the barge has a “cavernous interior” with three large, multi-functional spaces, a galley, office area, four toilets and plenty of storage.

 

Now “one of Brighton’s famous local landmarks”, the barge has had several reincarnations in its century of existence. Built in 1921, it enjoyed a long and industrious career transporting grain along northern England’s waterways – until it was moved south to Brighton Marina in 1996 and converted into a floating Chinese restaurant called The Pagoda.

The restaurant remained afloat until 2016, when the boat was sold and turned into a non-profit community and youth hub by the marina owners. It has been managed by arts and environmental charity O N C A, who moved out of the barge at the end of last year.

 

“The end of our time on the beloved barge has come much too soon for us,” wrote O N C A in a blog post. “We are deeply grateful to the beautiful boat itself for being a truly magical container for all this magnificent living and learning that we’ve been privileged to experience on and with O N C A Barge.”

They added: “The sale and removal of the Barge will leave a big gap at the marina – and for Brighton overall – in terms of diverse heritage, community and cultural provision.”

 

Push the boat out: 95-foot Brighton barge going for free — if you can get it out of the marina (msn.com)

 

 

 

Could have sworn I saw that for sale for around £100k recently (with the same GTFO our marina condition) 

[BilgePump]

The pics on Boatshed show rust all over the (not moved for decades) hull and rotten timber on the superstructure. It's nearly 100' long and 18' wide. Rust looks like metal leprosy. 

 

Do the marina own this? and do they want to pass on the liability for disposal?

[Ken X]

Can't help thinking the cost of removal would be prohibitive. I did some work for the Marina a few years ago and as I recall the exit is straight out to sea so towing won't be a trivial operation, assuming you could find a strong point still capable of taking the load and somewhere else to take it.

Road access as I remember it was via a tunnel so would need careful planning to avoid embarrassment. 

Its been floating in sea water for a long time so it's structural integrity may well be suspect.

[ditchcrawler]

8 minutes ago, Ken X said:

Can't help thinking the cost of removal would be prohibitive. I did some work for the Marina a few years ago and as I recall the exit is straight out to sea so towing won't be a trivial operation, assuming you could find a strong point still capable of taking the load and somewhere else to take it.

Road access as I remember it was via a tunnel so would need careful planning to avoid embarrassment. 

Its been floating in sea water for a long time so it's structural integrity may well be suspect.

Bit like the boat from Gloucester 

[BilgePump]

11 minutes ago, Ken X said:

Can't help thinking the cost of removal would be prohibitive. I did some work for the Marina a few years ago and as I recall the exit is straight out to sea so towing won't be a trivial operation, assuming you could find a strong point still capable of taking the load and somewhere else to take it.

Road access as I remember it was via a tunnel so would need careful planning to avoid embarrassment. 

Its been floating in sea water for a long time so it's structural integrity may well be suspect.

This hits the nail one head. Can't reasonably move by road, not safe to move by sea (as is). Albatross

[TheBiscuits]

17 minutes ago, BilgePump said:

Can't reasonably move by road, not safe to move by sea (as is).

 

Nah, fill it with lifting balloons so when it floods it won't sink and use a commercial tug to drag it out to sea.

 

Dunno where you'd want to take it, and you're looking at several hundred thousand quid by this point but it would work - on a calm day!

[BilgePump]

Just now, TheBiscuits said:

 

Nah, fill it with lifting balloons so when it floods it won't sink and use a commercial tug to drag it out to sea.

 

Dunno where you'd want to take it, and you're looking at several hundred thousand quid by this point but it would work - on a calm day!

They shifted the Costa Concordia with sponsons. Salvage cost about twice the build cost of the ship, just to take it ot the scrapyard

[Ronaldo47]

I seem to remember reading that someone tried to get a patent for a method of raising a sunken ship by filling it with ping-pong balls, pumped down via a hose.  Objection was raised by the Patent Office, based on a Mickey-Mouse cartoon where this was done!