These new log burner rules.......

[magnetman]

20 minutes ago, IanD said:

So you're ignoring the principle that even if you should be allowed to do things which are risky to yourself, you shouldn't be allowed to inflict risk on other people without their consent just to suit yourself?

 

This applies to smoking (secondary smoke), woodburning (most of the PM2.5 affect other people, not you), drink-driving, and many other aspects of life.

 

If you disagree and think that weaker specimens should be eliminated, surely that gives a stronger specimen -- a skilled hunter with a shotgun, say -- the right to shoot you for fun, which also removes you from the gene pool and reduces the population?

 

I've always dreamed of being killed by a hunter but it was a rifle not a shotgun as I think the shotgun would probably risk me not actually dying. 

 

You seem to know me but obviously you don't know much about hunting. 

 

It is interesting you compare burning wood with killing someone with guns. 

 

Are you one of those people who took the covids seriously ? 

 

Watch out ! They'll get you one way or another. 

[Paul C]

Its fairly basic stuff, a skilled hunter would use a rifle (probably with a scope), shotguns are used to blindly inflict damage/death on near objects.

[Tonka]

1 hour ago, magnetman said:

 

I've always dreamed of being killed by a hunter but it was a rifle not a shotgun as I think the shotgun would probably risk me not actually dying. 

 

You seem to know me but obviously you don't know much about hunting. 

 

It is interesting you compare burning wood with killing someone with guns. 

 

Are you one of those people who took the covids seriously ? 

 

Watch out ! They'll get you one way or another. 

Now you may be killed by a Hunter stove

[MtB]

3 hours ago, ditchcrawler said:

Lighting a stove like that could be a very serious risk to your health, problem is some people today who don't have experiance of fires in houses think that is how you should store the wood.

 

 

Another, even more fatal reason not to light it is the missing flue! 

 

 

[magnetman]

Stig of the dump is the last character I know of to not have a flue on his fire. 

[Jon57]

14 minutes ago, Tonka said:

Now you may be killed by a Hunter stove

Or morso

[magnetman]

Only if the stove is puffin. 

It's like an aarrow in the hearth !

[Ronaldo47]

A couple of years BC (Before Covid) I read a report of a number of deaths at a barbecue that had used building timber offcuts (presumably arsenic-impregnated) as fuel. I think it was in Australia. 

[IanD]

52 minutes ago, Ronaldo47 said:

A couple of years BC (Before Covid) I read a report of a number of deaths at a barbecue that had used building timber offcuts (presumably arsenic-impregnated) as fuel. I think it was in Australia. 

There was an account in the link I gave of s family in Australia who poisoned themselves with arsenic this way...

[tree monkey]

3 hours ago, Paul C said:

Its fairly basic stuff, a skilled hunter would use a rifle (probably with a scope), shotguns are used to blindly inflict damage/death on near objects.

Really! Have you ever tried to shoot a clay with a shotgun, maybe it's just me but it's bloody difficult 

[Alan de Enfield]

Just now, tree monkey said:

Really! Have you ever tried to shoot a clay with a shotgun, maybe it's just me but it's bloody difficult 

 

 

Have you ever tried it with a rifle ?

[tree monkey]

3 minutes ago, Alan de Enfield said:

 

 

Have you ever tried it with a rifle ?

Yes but I got banned from the range

 

Never got the hang of shotguns, not bad with a rifle though, at least the few times I've tried and can get a decent grouping with my air rifle at about 30yrds

[TheBiscuits]

12 minutes ago, tree monkey said:

 the few times I've tried and can get a decent grouping with my air rifle at about 30yrds

 

Now get someone to throw paper plates in the air and then pot them with the air rifle.

 

It's not much dafter than skeet shooting, but using a paintball gun instead of the air rifle makes a more satisfying mess!

[tree monkey]

7 minutes ago, TheBiscuits said:

 

Now get someone to throw paper plates in the air and then pot them with the air rifle.

 

It's not much dafter than skeet shooting, but using a paintball gun instead of the air rifle makes a more satisfying mess!

You know what I might just give that a go, should be good for a giggle, I might even have a box of clays somewhere 

[ditchcrawler]

39 minutes ago, TheBiscuits said:

 

Now get someone to throw paper plates in the air and then pot them with the air rifle.

 

It's not much dafter than skeet shooting, but using a paintball gun instead of the air rifle makes a more satisfying mess!

As a kid we use to shoot at toy cars that ran off a ramp (plank) in a mates back garden with airguns

[peterboat]

I don't like guns of any sort, it comes from having to shoot at people for a living, at the time you reason it through that it's you or them, but later in life it comes back and haunts you. 

[Alan de Enfield]

15 minutes ago, ditchcrawler said:

As a kid we use to shoot at toy cars that ran off a ramp (plank) in a mates back garden with airguns

 

And in 1938 the Army taught you to shoot (using 22 rifles) at little trains.

 

 

 

[Ronaldo47]

That's an interesting  use for what was obviously a Hornby "O " gauge electric train that I haven't seen mentioned in books on the system, saved walking up and down the range to change target cards, and safer for the trainer!  

[ditchcrawler]

16 minutes ago, Alan de Enfield said:

 

And in 1938 the Army taught you to shoot (using 22 rifles) at little trains.

 

 

 

I think dad would have killed me if I had taken my train set round. It was bad enough when he found a slug in a sprout as Sunday lunch, a lead one.

[ditchcrawler]

22 minutes ago, Alan de Enfield said:

 

And in 1938 the Army taught you to shoot (using 22 rifles) at little trains.

 

 

 

 

[MtB]

2 hours ago, Ronaldo47 said:

That's an interesting  use for what was obviously a Hornby "O " gauge electric train that I haven't seen mentioned in books on the system, saved walking up and down the range to change target cards, and safer for the trainer!  

 

"Trainer"!

 

Lol, I see what you did there  

 

 

[Tonka]

On the Daily Mail website there is an interactive map of places in England which are going to impose the fine.

Cannot believe that @IanD has  not put a link up to it

[Guest]

6 minutes ago, Tonka said:

On the Daily Mail website there is an interactive map of places in England which are going to impose the fine.

Cannot believe that @IanD has  not put a link up to it

 

Typical Mail bollox.

 

Its a map of existing smoke control areas, and points out the requirements you have to meet if you live in one. (We do).

 

[magnetman]

Sometimes the DM comments section is quite amusing but I never get time to read the articles. 

[Cheshire cat]

I don't agree with a lot of Peter's posts but total empathy on this