JoeC Posted January 27, 2023 Report Share Posted January 27, 2023 (edited) Hello. Could anybody recommend a modern / current model of a 12v powered router that has 4 LAN ports for my boat. Does not need to have 5G. Thanks Joe Edited January 27, 2023 by JoeC added that it does not need to be 5G. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rusty69 Posted January 27, 2023 Report Share Posted January 27, 2023 Lots of people use the Huawei b525, or b535, both of which I believe will take a 12V supply. Teltonika also do some. A lot will depend on whether you want 5g capability Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUMPY Posted January 27, 2023 Report Share Posted January 27, 2023 (edited) B535 is the way to go it's quicker than the B525 I ran mine on a 13v-12v PSU for safety Edited January 27, 2023 by Loddon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
booke23 Posted January 27, 2023 Report Share Posted January 27, 2023 I have a B535 and it is very good……4 LAN ports. I run mine through a regulated 12v converter as I don’t think they like 14v when the engine is running. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUMPY Posted January 27, 2023 Report Share Posted January 27, 2023 At home I used to run a Huawei B818 it's now on the boat and being cat19 is way better than the B535. However it only has two LAN ports, this is easily solved by adding a LAN switch like this https://amzn.eu/d/5AIQFgL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post David Mack Posted January 27, 2023 Popular Post Report Share Posted January 27, 2023 12V router. No LAN ports though. 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUMPY Posted January 27, 2023 Report Share Posted January 27, 2023 15 minutes ago, David Mack said: 12V router. No LAN ports though. You would need a CNC router to get a LAN port 🤭 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puffling Posted January 27, 2023 Report Share Posted January 27, 2023 1 hour ago, David Mack said: 12V router. No LAN ports though. I've always maintained that the device which provide internet from an antenna should be called a modem and this confirms it. After all, you refer to a cable modem when it is in the home, not a cable router. Search for a plunge router online and you might come back with one which can be dipped in the canal when it overheats 😂 But another vote for the B535. With a decent external antenna. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jen-in-Wellies Posted January 27, 2023 Report Share Posted January 27, 2023 5 hours ago, Loddon said: B535 is the way to go it's quicker than the B525 It's ten better! 😁 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ca Jon Posted April 10, 2023 Report Share Posted April 10, 2023 so great to be a part of this group, you guys are awesome!! I think I am going for the B535, Any advice on a decent antenna? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackrose Posted April 10, 2023 Report Share Posted April 10, 2023 (edited) I've got the B535 but just run it on 230v. Is there any advantage to running it on 12v if you've got the inverter on all the time anyway to run other appliances like a mains fridge? 18 minutes ago, Ca Jon said: so great to be a part of this group, you guys are awesome!! I think I am going for the B535, Any advice on a decent antenna? This was the one recommended to me a couple of years ago. It's very good. Poynting 4G-XPOL-A0001 Cross Polarised 4G Omni LTE Antenna https://amzn.eu/d/0vpi0za Edited April 10, 2023 by blackrose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ca Jon Posted April 10, 2023 Report Share Posted April 10, 2023 6 minutes ago, blackrose said: I've got the B535 but just run it on 230v. Is there any advantage to running it on 12v if you've got the inverter on all the time anyway to run other appliances like a mains fridge? This was the one recommended to me a couple of years ago. It's very good. Poynting 4G-XPOL-A0001 Cross Polarised 4G Omni LTE Antenna https://amzn.eu/d/0vpi0za Thank you. I was just looking at that same one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rusty69 Posted April 10, 2023 Report Share Posted April 10, 2023 15 minutes ago, blackrose said: I've got the B535 but just run it on 230v. Is there any advantage to running it on 12v if you've got the inverter on all the time anyway to run other appliances like a mains fridge? Nope. I've just changed my b525 to 12V to try and get more things off the mains. The other benefit is that when plugged into the landline and some numpty trips the mains, the internet stays on. We also use the xpol, but i reckon there are better options out there now, but with a higher price tag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackrose Posted April 10, 2023 Report Share Posted April 10, 2023 4 minutes ago, rusty69 said: Nope. I've just changed my b525 to 12V to try and get more things off the mains. The other benefit is that when plugged into the landline and some numpty trips the mains, the internet stays on. We also use the xpol, but i reckon there are better options out there now, but with a higher price tag. Thanks. I'm largely off shore power now and on panels/inverter so I'll leave my router on mains as the inverter is always on anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul C Posted April 10, 2023 Report Share Posted April 10, 2023 (edited) On 27/01/2023 at 13:01, Puffling said: I've always maintained that the device which provide internet from an antenna should be called a modem and this confirms it. After all, you refer to a cable modem when it is in the home, not a cable router. Search for a plunge router online and you might come back with one which can be dipped in the canal when it overheats 😂 But another vote for the B535. With a decent external antenna. Actually, its technically correct to call it a bridge. (A bridge joins two physically different styles of network together). Its also a router, because if you plugged computer A into port 1 and computer B into port 2, A and B could communicate without the signal going over the air, ie it routes the signal from one to the other. If it did this over a dedicated space, rather than using a common space that eg ports 3 and 4 could see too, its a switched router. Its not a modem because for 3G and onwards technologies, its a purely digital domain. If it were an ADSL router, it could also be called a modem because they do use high frequencies over the copper wire similar to older, slower modems where those frequencies fell in the hearing range of a human being. Edited April 10, 2023 by Paul C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUMPY Posted April 10, 2023 Report Share Posted April 10, 2023 One of these provides voltage stabilisation to 12v products, means you don't have to worry about feeding it 14.8v 🤔 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rusty69 Posted April 10, 2023 Report Share Posted April 10, 2023 8 minutes ago, Loddon said: One of these provides voltage stabilisation to 12v products, means you don't have to worry about feeding it 14.8v 🤔 I have one similar to that feeding the router and the 12v led lights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ca Jon Posted April 10, 2023 Report Share Posted April 10, 2023 32 minutes ago, Ca Jon said: Thank you. I was just looking at that same one! I have been searching for the B535 and there are at least two different ones B535 - 232 and B535 - 333. Which one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty40s Posted April 10, 2023 Report Share Posted April 10, 2023 (edited) Ignore Edited April 10, 2023 by matty40s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUMPY Posted April 10, 2023 Report Share Posted April 10, 2023 2 minutes ago, matty40s said: Not the 232, no aeriel sockets on rear. Are you sure? I'm sure my 232 had aerial sockets. The thing to check is what bands they cover you need bands 1,3 and 20 The 232 is only a cat 7 router the 333 is cat 13 so theoretically faster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rusty69 Posted April 10, 2023 Report Share Posted April 10, 2023 I think Loddon mentioned the The B535-232 doesn't have the rj11. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUMPY Posted April 10, 2023 Report Share Posted April 10, 2023 3 minutes ago, rusty69 said: I think Loddon mentioned the The B535-232 doesn't have the rj11. That is correct! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty40s Posted April 10, 2023 Report Share Posted April 10, 2023 Ah, ok, my bad, knew I'd seen summat about it not having something, it was early and raining you know. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanD Posted April 10, 2023 Report Share Posted April 10, 2023 (edited) 7 hours ago, Paul C said: Actually, its technically correct to call it a bridge. (A bridge joins two physically different styles of network together). Its also a router, because if you plugged computer A into port 1 and computer B into port 2, A and B could communicate without the signal going over the air, ie it routes the signal from one to the other. If it did this over a dedicated space, rather than using a common space that eg ports 3 and 4 could see too, its a switched router. Its not a modem because for 3G and onwards technologies, its a purely digital domain. If it were an ADSL router, it could also be called a modem because they do use high frequencies over the copper wire similar to older, slower modems where those frequencies fell in the hearing range of a human being. It certainly *is* a modem, 3G/4G/5G systems use QAM (Quadrature Amplitude Modulation) to encode multiple data bits onto each complex RF symbol, for example up to 10b per symbol with QAM1024 for 5G, using DACs to generate the RF signal and ADCs to receive it. The baud rate (symbol rate) sets the bandwidth that is used, and the two multiplied together (bits/symbol*baud rate) sets the overall data rate. They also use FEC (Forward Error Correction) to add extra error-correcting bits to the data so that even with a significant BER (Bit Error Rate) the decoded data is error-free. https://www.waveform.com/a/b/guides/modulation-coding-speeds Incidentally exactly the same method is used for sending optical data over the telecomms/datacomms networks (Internet), except the baud rates and bandwidths are slightly higher -- the transciever chip we're currently testing runs at up to 140Gbaud, and can transmit up to 1.2Tb/s in a 300GHz bandwidth channel using modified QAM64... Edited April 10, 2023 by IanD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurora66 Posted April 11, 2023 Report Share Posted April 11, 2023 This is a decent video. I'm about to order a dual SIM router as I definitely need a good consistent signal for work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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