Chris Lowe Posted December 12, 2022 Report Share Posted December 12, 2022 A good place for these collections is the Railway & Canal Historical Society, museums just tend to leave them gathering dust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek R. Posted December 13, 2022 Report Share Posted December 13, 2022 One depository to avoid if possible are charitable organisations. My wife has worked in two, one full time, The amount of items that clearly have some histroical importance if not sold in their shops - goes into a skip. Watches, clocks, pictures, many she has rescued from their skips to be given a place to hang, a shelf to sit on, or worn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Griffiths Posted December 19, 2022 Author Report Share Posted December 19, 2022 As a follow up to my posting, many thanks to Ray T for sending me some material. I'm not able to reply directly as I don't have an email address and the PM system doesn't allow me to respond. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob-M Posted December 19, 2022 Report Share Posted December 19, 2022 18 minutes ago, Chris Griffiths said: As a follow up to my posting, many thanks to Ray T for sending me some material. I'm not able to reply directly as I don't have an email address and the PM system doesn't allow me to respond. I think you need 5 posts before you can pm so one more should do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebulae Posted December 21, 2022 Report Share Posted December 21, 2022 I have the full set of Waterway Journals. I have not checked,but from memory,all the articles credit the authors .Those articles by people who are no longer with us,such as Alf. Hayman, Manager of the Bridgewater Department ,are now a widely distributed source, through the Waterways Journals. Alf had a lifetime of knowledge of the Bridgewater Dept,as well as access to the company archives. I am sure back issues are available from the usual waterways book sources. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph Posted December 21, 2022 Report Share Posted December 21, 2022 Evenin' all The comments on possibly lost collections were so interesting that I have started another thread on this subject. I hope noone minds. Ian Mac's comments about keeping your own collections safe are spot on. Such a shame when a life's work gets kicked out or, with digital material, simply deleted. It's a thought to leave some instructions (and maybe a modest legacy) with executors, as to what you hold that might be of interest to an archive. The easier it is to understand that collection, and the better shape it is in, I submit, the more likely it is to be accepted in an archive. I've been a little surprised at some reactions to Chris' request for contributions to the Waterways Journal. It was founded by volunteers (notably, the late Tony Burnip) at Ellesmere Port, to produce longer articles about waterways history, especially using archive material. I have been surprised to find that it is not better known. It is all about enthusiasm, supported, but not run, by C&RT. Happy Christmas everyone. Joseph B 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek R. Posted December 22, 2022 Report Share Posted December 22, 2022 Can the webmaster stop scratching his head. I've got dandruff floating down my screen . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stroudwater1 Posted December 22, 2022 Report Share Posted December 22, 2022 19 hours ago, nebulae said: I have the full set of Waterway Journals. I have not checked,but from memory,all the articles credit the authors .Those articles by people who are no longer with us,such as Alf. Hayman, Manager of the Bridgewater Department ,are now a widely distributed source, through the Waterways Journals. Alf had a lifetime of knowledge of the Bridgewater Dept,as well as access to the company archives. I am sure back issues are available from the usual waterways book sources. Many can be obtained directly from Ellesmere Port, a couple of early ones are not in print, ordered one myself earlier in the year. They will IIRC accept card payments now as well when not busy. The past edition titles in each volume are referenced on this page, though you need to buy the back copy to read them. https://canalrivertrust.org.uk/enjoy-the-waterways/canal-history/the-waterways-archive/waterways-journal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pluto Posted December 23, 2022 Report Share Posted December 23, 2022 Besides writing several articles, I did the layouts up to No.19, and have pdfs of all those. There was some talk about making them available on the internet after the print run was sold out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartland Posted June 20, 2023 Report Share Posted June 20, 2023 I have had an email from Chris Griffith stating that CRT are revising the need to publish the Journal and the March Journal has been postponed indefinitely. it is extremely worrying that CRT wish to review the need for such an important journal. Chris has resigned as editor. I do wonder what is on the CRT agenda these days, clearly the study of heritage is one of them. The next question must be what will be fate of Ellesmere Port Museum? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Lowe Posted June 20, 2023 Report Share Posted June 20, 2023 10 minutes ago, Heartland said: I do wonder what is on the CRT agenda these days, clearly the study of heritage is one of them. The next question must be what will be fate of Ellesmere Port Museum? A property developer could make some nice expensive waterside flats, then the residents will moan about all the boats. 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Mack Posted June 20, 2023 Report Share Posted June 20, 2023 How many çopies of the journal were produced? How much did it cost to print, and what were the sales receipts? My guess is that the Journal was a net cost to CRT, and in these cash-straitened times, CRT can't justify funding a publication which is peripheral to their main activity. Sad, but a reflection of where we are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartland Posted June 20, 2023 Report Share Posted June 20, 2023 The CRT Website still states Waterways Journal Waterways Journal is published annually and has been put together by volunteers at the museum for many years. Clearly 2023 is not on the annual publication agenda But David Mack makes a point about the CRT being cash strapped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stroudwater1 Posted June 20, 2023 Report Share Posted June 20, 2023 10 hours ago, David Mack said: How many çopies of the journal were produced? How much did it cost to print, and what were the sales receipts? My guess is that the Journal was a net cost to CRT, and in these cash-straitened times, CRT can't justify funding a publication which is peripheral to their main activity. Sad, but a reflection of where we are. I suspect that’s exactly what’s happened. However in fairness it doesn’t seem to have been publicised very much in recent times so perhaps it’s been “managed out” of existence. Very sad to hear and I hope Chris is doing OK in the circumstances Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Griffiths Posted June 21, 2023 Author Report Share Posted June 21, 2023 It would not be a good idea to go into precise details at the moment, but WJ was produced at minimal cost to CRT. It should easily be able to produce a (small) profit. The issues are more about where the responsibilities for promotion and distribution lie. There isn't a lot of point in expending a significant amount of effort in producing copies to sit in boxes in a store. The other difficulty is the lack of a reliable channel to solicit contributions following the demise of the Waterways Museum Society. I should add that publication is suspended not abandoned. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchcrawler Posted June 28, 2023 Report Share Posted June 28, 2023 On 20/06/2023 at 12:02, David Mack said: How many çopies of the journal were produced? How much did it cost to print, and what were the sales receipts? My guess is that the Journal was a net cost to CRT, and in these cash-straitened times, CRT can't justify funding a publication which is peripheral to their main activity. Sad, but a reflection of where we are. The were on sale very cheaply at Anderton Lift visitor centre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham_Robinson Posted June 29, 2023 Report Share Posted June 29, 2023 (edited) 14 hours ago, ditchcrawler said: The were on sale very cheaply at Anderton Lift visitor centre And were on sale at the Braunston Historic Boat Rally Edited June 29, 2023 by Graham_Robinson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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