A 3rd Car in a week is Dumped in a West Midlands Canal

[Alan de Enfield]

 

Cars dumped in West Midlands canals leave charity with £30k bill - BBC News

 

 

 

The dumping of three cars in canals within a week could cost a charity around £30,000.

The vehicles were found in Tipton, Dudley and Solihull and needed cranes and lifting equipment to clear, the Canal & River Trust said.

Each removal operation costs about £10,000 and is "money we can't afford", it added.

The trust said it was "not sure what's going on" as three cars in one week was "not normal".

[BEngo]

What are they thinking?  The cars are insured, or should be, so  CRT should be claiming their  removal (and storage) costs off the registered keeper, who will pass the claim to his insurer.

 

If vehicle not insured pass claim to the motor insurers bureau.  They have a fund for uninsured losses.

 

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[Alan de Enfield]

36 minutes ago, BEngo said:

What are they thinking?  The cars are insured, or should be, so  CRT should be claiming their  removal (and storage) costs off the registered keeper, who will pass the claim to his insurer.

 

If vehicle not insured pass claim to the motor insurers bureau.  They have a fund for uninsured losses.

 

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The article does day that C&RT try to reclaim from the insurers but are not often successful so have to pay the £10k per time themselves.

[MtB]

1 hour ago, Alan de Enfield said:

 

Cars dumped in West Midlands canals leave charity with £30k bill - BBC News

 

 

 

The dumping of three cars in canals within a week could cost a charity around £30,000.

The vehicles were found in Tipton, Dudley and Solihull and needed cranes and lifting equipment to clear, the Canal & River Trust said.

Each removal operation costs about £10,000 and is "money we can't afford", it added.

The trust said it was "not sure what's going on" as three cars in one week was "not normal".

 

 

Funny-looking canal, that...!

 

 

[Tracy D'arth]

14 minutes ago, Alan de Enfield said:

 

The article does day that C&RT try to reclaim from the insurers but are not often successful so have to pay the £10k per time themselves.

I have never failed to claim off an insurance company for 3rd party losses whether insured or no.

The legal department of C&RT is one of their largest with most managers and legals, time they got stuck in and made the claims stick.

[Athy]

13 minutes ago, MtB said:

 

 

Funny-looking canal, that...!

 

 

I thought the same - though there is a mooring bollard in evidence so perhaps it's a short arm or part of a basin.

   Funny looking car too - what sort of car thief would wrench a rear door off to get into it?

[Alan de Enfield]

Just now, Athy said:

I thought the same - though there is a mooring bollard in evidence so perhaps it's a short arm or part of a basin.

   Funny looking car too - what sort of car thief would wrench a rear door off to get into it?

 

 

The back door is still there - it is just 'open'

 

[Guest]

2 minutes ago, Athy said:

I thought the same - though there is a mooring bollard in evidence so perhaps it's a short arm or part of a basin.

   Funny looking car too - what sort of car thief would wrench a rear door off to get into it?

 

Look again. The door is open.

 

Not removed.

 

 

Cross post with Alan

 

[Tracy D'arth]

2 minutes ago, Athy said:

I thought the same - though there is a mooring bollard in evidence so perhaps it's a short arm or part of a basin.

   Funny looking car too - what sort of car thief would wrench a rear door off to get into it?

Its just open, to let the water out.

[Rob-M]

28 minutes ago, MtB said:

 

 

Funny-looking canal, that...!

 

 

I thought it was the end of the Anglesey branch at first but I think it is on the Delph locks.

Edited November 21, 2022 by Rob-M

[beerbeerbeerbeerbeer]

Nothing funny about that bit of canal, it’s the bottom of Delph locks.

A decent place to moor over night. 
Black Delph Bridge, I think it’s called. 

15 minutes ago, Tracy D'arth said:

I have never failed to claim off an insurance company for 3rd party losses whether insured or no.

The legal department of C&RT is one of their largest with most managers and legals, time they got stuck in and made the claims stick.

Are CRT missing a trick?

Why not do it themselves and charge the insurance company ?

Edited November 21, 2022 by Goliath

[Alan de Enfield]

4 minutes ago, Goliath said:

Nothing funny about that bit of canal, it’s the bottom of Delph locks.

A decent place to moor over night. 
 

Are CRT missing a trick?

Why not do it themselves and charge the insurance company ?

 

Where are C&RT going to get the manpower and equipment from ?

 

They have even sold off their Tirfor winches in this last round of auctions - I very much doubt they have a 'big' crane hidden away anywhere.

Edited November 21, 2022 by Alan de Enfield

[Tracy D'arth]

I don't understand why they simply don't tell the insurer to get it shifted PDQ and charge £1000 a day demurrage until it is gone.

That's what farmers do when cars are dumped in the fields.

Its a legal department without teeth unless its about a boater behind with his licence.

[beerbeerbeerbeerbeer]

6 minutes ago, Alan de Enfield said:

 

Where are C&RT going to get the manpower and equipment from ?

 

They have even sold off their Tirfor winches in this last round of auctions - I very much doubt they have a 'big' crane hidden away anywhere.

Well, it’ll never happen will it.

 

However...it could be a good little earner.

This must be happening in odd spots all over the system.

 

Anyway this £10,000 figures has increased from the last report.

And where was the third car dumped? The image shown is the second car, the first was at factory locks.

 

(perhaps I should read the article 😳before I say owt else)

 

[Stroudwater1]

Its going to be a frequent occurrence as it wipes all DNA< suspect thats why the door was left open to flood the insides too.  

 

Should definitely go through insurance, unless its been stolen, written off as disappeared, hidden away then used in a crime? 

[Tracy D'arth]

Just now, Goliath said:

 

 

(perhaps I should read the article 😳before I say owt else)

 

Why break the habit of a lifetime?😊 

2 minutes ago, Stroudwater1 said:

Its going to be a frequent occurrence as it wipes all DNA< suspect thats why the door was left open to flood the insides too.  

 

Should definitely go through insurance, unless its been stolen, written off as disappeared, hidden away then used in a crime? 

It always has to be lifted with a door open else as the water surges end to end it will upturn the car. Lifted loads out of rivers and floods.

[pearley]

21 minutes ago, Goliath said:

Nothing funny about that bit of canal, it’s the bottom of Delph locks.

A decent place to moor over night. 
Black Delph Bridge, I think it’s called. 

We moored there about 18 years ago with our shareboat. Rain was absolutely teeming down so didn't fancy continuing up the locks although did manage to get to the pub opposite to dry out a bit. Souless pub as I recall.

[Stroudwater1]

4 minutes ago, Tracy D&#x27;arth said:

 

It always has to be lifted with a door open else as the water surges end to end it will upturn the car. Lifted loads out of rivers and floods.

 

How kind of the driver to consider that in advance then 😁

[beerbeerbeerbeerbeer]

10 minutes ago, pearley said:

We moored there about 18 years ago with our shareboat. Rain was absolutely teeming down so didn't fancy continuing up the locks although did manage to get to the pub opposite to dry out a bit. Souless pub as I recall.

Rubbish pub 👍

But if’d you’d have walked up the hill you’d have found a very good locals pub, the Vine/Bull & Bladder.

[Alan de Enfield]

24 minutes ago, Goliath said:

nd where was the third car dumped? The image shown is the second car, the first was at factory locks.

 

 

 

1) Tipton Lock (Factory Lock No3) closed for recovery work

 

2) near the Tenth Lock pub in Brierley Hill this morning (November 16).

 

3) The subject of this thread

[beerbeerbeerbeerbeer]

Just now, Alan de Enfield said:

 

 

 

1) Tipton Lock (Factory Lock No3) closed for recovery work

 

2) near the Tenth Lock pub in Brierley Hill this morning (November 16).

 

3) The subject of this thread

I think we ‘ll find no2 and no3 are the same car.

The Tenth Lock pub is the rubbish pub we’ve mentioned. 

[Alan de Enfield]

1 minute ago, Goliath said:

I think we ‘ll find no2 and no3 are the same car.

 

 

Maybe (I wouldn't be surprised) when C&RT quote :

 

The vehicles were found in Tipton, Dudley and Solihull and needed cranes and lifting equipment to clear

[IanD]

27 minutes ago, pearley said:

We moored there about 18 years ago with our shareboat. Rain was absolutely teeming down so didn't fancy continuing up the locks although did manage to get to the pub opposite to dry out a bit. Souless pub as I recall.

 

You didn't walk up the hill to the Bull and Bladder? 😲😲😲

 

I'd have done that even in a thunderstorm...

Edited November 21, 2022 by IanD

[beerbeerbeerbeerbeer]

Yes “The vehicles were found in Tipton, Dudley and Solihull and needed cranes and lifting equipment to clear, the Canal & River Trust said.”

so we need to find the Solihull car 🧐

[pearley]

15 minutes ago, Goliath said:

Rubbish pub 👍

But if’d you’d have walked up the hill you’d have found a very good locals pub, the Vine/Bull & Bladder.

 

2 minutes ago, IanD said:

 

You didn't walk up the hill to the Bull and Bladder? 😲😲😲

 

I'd have done that even in a thunderstorm...

Wet enough. Bull and Bladder very good but I'm a fair weather drinker.