John Brightley Posted February 8 Report Share Posted February 8 53 minutes ago, Pluto said: Another view of the buildings, this time on the road side. The photo is from the Waterways Archive. That helped ! Warehouse at Rochdale branch terminal basin. I found another photo here: http://www.derekparsons.com/RDB-Rochdale.html.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pluto Posted February 8 Report Share Posted February 8 3 hours ago, John Brightley said: That helped ! Warehouse at Rochdale branch terminal basin. I found another photo here: http://www.derekparsons.com/RDB-Rochdale.html.html The first photo was taken in 1975, when there was somewhat more to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Mack Posted February 9 Report Share Posted February 9 ⁸ On 05/02/2023 at 10:08, Pluto said: Which canal warehouse? And a recent Google Streetview image looking in much the same direction (from Drake Street), with the tower of the fire station (now the Fireground firefighting museum) visible in the background. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beerbeerbeerbeerbeer Posted February 9 Report Share Posted February 9 On 08/02/2023 at 08:36, Heartland said: Well as to mine it is on the BCN and in South Staffordshire it was on the opposite bank to a foundry and beside a canal originally authorised in 1794 and near that ungodly place SODOM a quick Google refers to Sodom Chapel, later renamed Ettingshall Chapel, and you must be on the Walsall Canal with 1794? So BEngo gotta be getting close with Bilston.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beerbeerbeerbeerbeer Posted February 9 Report Share Posted February 9 (edited) I’m gonna say Birchills Edited February 9 by Goliath Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartland Posted February 9 Author Report Share Posted February 9 Ettingshall was closer. The 1794 act not only authorised the Walsall Canal but also the Bloomfield to Deepfield Cut. The blast furnaces were served by canal and later a railway branch from the Stour Valley Railway Twigg and Smith were awarded the contract to build the Bloomfield to Deepfields route but only parts were initially cut, The narrow tunnel was started but not finished and whilst parts were extended the tunnel part had to wait for Thomas Telford to suggest that this link be finished complete with a tunnel and two towpaths ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beerbeerbeerbeerbeer Posted February 10 Report Share Posted February 10 On 07/02/2023 at 19:38, BEngo said: The boat in the foreground looks BCN day boat, so possibly a hotholer at Bilston, why called a hotholer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Mack Posted February 10 Report Share Posted February 10 I thought the word was 'ot'oler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beerbeerbeerbeerbeer Posted February 10 Report Share Posted February 10 2 hours ago, David Mack said: I thought the word was 'ot'oler. and what is one? ….don’t say a boat. 😃 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartland Posted February 10 Author Report Share Posted February 10 Bilston- that is presumably the reference to the craft associated with the Spring Vale Furnaces there. The image above shows a boat in the basin of the Priorsfield Furnaces which belonged H B Whitehouse and that basin joined the new main line north of Coseley Tunnel, near the Canon Foundry, and south of the Boat and Matty;s Yard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartland Posted February 10 Author Report Share Posted February 10 (edited) As to the interesting post of the Rochdale Canal Basin, it should be remembered that there were a group of warehouses around the basin in Rochdale as is shown in this 1929 image from Britain from Above- Edited February 10 by Heartland Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEngo Posted February 10 Report Share Posted February 10 2 hours ago, Goliath said: and what is one? ….don’t say a boat. 😃 A 'ot'oler was a boatman's name for one working regularly or exclusively to the iron and steel works (Spring Vale?) on the BCN main line at Bilston. In the same vein as Greasy 'Ockers, Mud Heelers and Woolly Backed 'uns. At Bilston, like at Shelton in Stoke-on-Trent, the canal was close enough to the action of the works that passing boats could feel the heat of the iron or steel as it was processed. At Bilston I vaguely recall it it was blast furnaces and pig beds that were near the cut. At Shelton it was the cogging mill. Both sites were playgrounds for 12 in to the foot scale Tonka toys last time we passed. N 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pluto Posted February 12 Report Share Posted February 12 How about this one. Looking up a canal bed from a filled-in lock coping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartland Posted February 12 Author Report Share Posted February 12 Towpath on the right and presumably a lock house that was lived in hence the grass. From this angle it is difficult to decide if the canal lock was narrow or wide. but the width of the canal may well be barge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray T Posted February 12 Report Share Posted February 12 4 hours ago, Pluto said: How about this one. Looking up a canal bed from a filled-in lock coping. Your back garden? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pluto Posted February 12 Report Share Posted February 12 It might not look like it, but it is the New Cut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartland Posted February 12 Author Report Share Posted February 12 I thought there was a water shortage but if it is near Barlick the CRT manager needs to walk the plank into a reservoir near you which has werta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartland Posted February 12 Author Report Share Posted February 12 As stated before, not everybody might recognise the location And, with details Goliath posted the following image which some know, but did not elaborate, it seems. It could be various places but lamps by basins provides an intriguing choice as to where? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beerbeerbeerbeerbeer Posted February 12 Report Share Posted February 12 (edited) At the time of taking the photo, it seemed to need no introduction, Thinking most boaters would have made a visit here. However here’s some clues to help if it’s not immediately recognisable; over the fence beside the bridge is another bridge across an arm to a basin and lime kilns, and is that bridge the only surviving hand operated lift bridge which rises level on chains? one has to wind here, unless you’re legging it Edited February 12 by Goliath 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob-M Posted February 12 Report Share Posted February 12 1 hour ago, Heartland said: As stated before, not everybody might recognise the location And, with details Goliath posted the following image which some know, but did not elaborate, it seems. It could be various places but lamps by basins provides an intriguing choice as to where? Looks like the bridge at the Black Country Living Museum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beerbeerbeerbeerbeer Posted February 12 Report Share Posted February 12 20 minutes ago, Rob-M said: Looks like the bridge at the Black Country Living Museum. Yes Brown’s Bridge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beerbeerbeerbeerbeer Posted February 13 Report Share Posted February 13 15 hours ago, Goliath said: Yes Brown’s Bridge And I ought perhaps have asked about the plaque on Browns Bridge as a clue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beerbeerbeerbeerbeer Posted February 13 Report Share Posted February 13 19 hours ago, Pluto said: It might not look like it, but it is the New Cut. The New Cut is something I’d never heard of. thanks for the introduction Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartland Posted February 13 Author Report Share Posted February 13 Thanks for Goliath to explain in his own words where it is Now locations change even if the lamp post might remain for a few years---- this a 1990's view before Browns Bridge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beerbeerbeerbeerbeer Posted February 13 Report Share Posted February 13 16 minutes ago, Heartland said: Thanks for Goliath to explain in his own words where it is Now locations change even if the lamp post might remain for a few years---- this a 1990's view before Browns Bridge that’s an interesting photo, so while Browns Bridge is clearly a recent construction, is the lift bridge in its original position? or was it brought from elsewhere? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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