Heartland Posted September 25, 2022 Author Report Share Posted September 25, 2022 No not Sherborne Wharf, but you were right with your first thought. It is Salvage Turn as seen in 1966. This would be before the Royal Mail started with the Mailbox construction. The Fake History is the tramway tracks now embedded in the wharf surface, which clearly were not there in 1966. I believe they came from the timber yard on the NIA site. Suggest change of beer to a real ale ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Mack Posted September 25, 2022 Report Share Posted September 25, 2022 6 hours ago, Heartland said: I have yet to find a better image too of this image which is part of a group of images for Knowle Locks before and after the reconstructiion for the Grand Union Canal. It shows the engine house. The Warwick & Birmingham Canal's best known engine house was in Birmingham in Bowyer Street, but this one was considered important for recirculating water at the original 6 narrow locks. As to another location look at this image below. With Knowle that building has completely gone. In this view the transformation to the present is remarkable. There is a wide cobbled area on the left which was used by a Corporation and what is missing in this view is an example of fake history that has been placed there. The canal did extend into a blocked off basin by this 1966 new from the RCHS Collection. The main canal turned to the left. Salvage Turn. On the Worcester and Birmingham just beyond Gas Street Basin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beerbeerbeerbeerbeer Posted September 25, 2022 Report Share Posted September 25, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Heartland said: No not Sherborne Wharf, but you were right with your first thought. It is Salvage Turn as seen in 1966. This would be before the Royal Mail started with the Mailbox construction. The Fake History is the tramway tracks now embedded in the wharf surface, which clearly were not there in 1966. I believe they came from the timber yard on the NIA site. Suggest change of beer to a real ale ! They always say go with your first answer but I couldn’t work out the right hand side and the false history threw me. Thought the writing on the apartments at Sherborne might fake. Ok, I might have a 6X this evening. Where am I ? Edited September 25, 2022 by Goliath Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Mack Posted September 25, 2022 Report Share Posted September 25, 2022 (edited) On 22/09/2022 at 22:24, Rob-M said: Knowle locks Yes. Here's the full picture. And from a similar viewpoint today. The new wide locks are on the site of the old pumping station. Side by side view of the original layout and pumping station with the current wide locks. Original image from http://www.knowlehistory.org.uk/people&places/canal/canal.html Edited September 25, 2022 by David Mack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartland Posted September 25, 2022 Author Report Share Posted September 25, 2022 Thought the writing on the apartments at Sherborne might fake. Well the Fellows, Morton & Clayton writing does reflect accurate history. The much altered warehouse building to become apartments was actually that a warehouse building. FMC transferred part of their trade to the original structure when they left the Crescent and their art deco offices are still at the wharf hidden by the newer structures built aroinf them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuckbyLocks Posted September 26, 2022 Report Share Posted September 26, 2022 Before it became a Ministry of Food store during the Cold War, the building on the Sherborne Street Wharf was a corn mill and boiler house. When it was being used as the construction site for the Hyatt Hotel rooms, I was sent into this building for work and the milling structures were still very much in evidence. The FMC buildings were behind it and further along the wharf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray T Posted September 26, 2022 Report Share Posted September 26, 2022 (edited) 23 hours ago, Heartland said: I have yet to find a better image too of this image which is part of a group of images for Knowle Locks before and after the reconstructiion for the Grand Union Canal. Any good? Edited September 26, 2022 by Ray T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartland Posted September 30, 2022 Author Report Share Posted September 30, 2022 Another image for consideration any idea where this Birmingham Corporation Gasworks was located ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidg Posted September 30, 2022 Report Share Posted September 30, 2022 There's a village nearby? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beerbeerbeerbeerbeer Posted September 30, 2022 Report Share Posted September 30, 2022 Swan Village On the wednesbury arm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartland Posted September 30, 2022 Author Report Share Posted September 30, 2022 Yus Swan Village Gas Works must be the Holdens !!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beerbeerbeerbeerbeer Posted September 30, 2022 Report Share Posted September 30, 2022 https://www.nationalgrid.com/gas-transmission/document/134656/download all on page 20 👍 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Pegg Posted September 30, 2022 Report Share Posted September 30, 2022 I think the current Mrs P was QS for the demolition work at Swan Village. She also did Foleshill - that I looked straight at from my childhood bedroom window - that became the site of the Ricoh/CBS Arena. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray T Posted September 30, 2022 Report Share Posted September 30, 2022 34 minutes ago, Captain Pegg said: I think the current Mrs P was QS for the demolition work at Swan Village. She also did Foleshill - that I looked straight at from my childhood bedroom window - that became the site of the Ricoh/CBS Arena. Photo IWM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty40s Posted September 30, 2022 Report Share Posted September 30, 2022 Any takers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek R. Posted October 1, 2022 Report Share Posted October 1, 2022 Liverpool? 14 hours ago, Goliath said: https://www.nationalgrid.com/gas-transmission/document/134656/download all on page 20 👍 Thanks for that - fascinating document. Gas Works were all over the place during my childhood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray T Posted October 1, 2022 Report Share Posted October 1, 2022 Whilst on the topic of gas / tar tankers, Jimmy Moore on Umea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beerbeerbeerbeerbeer Posted October 1, 2022 Report Share Posted October 1, 2022 5 hours ago, Derek R. said: Liverpool? Thanks for that - fascinating document. Gas Works were all over the place during my childhood. It’s a good one ain’t it? Did you spot the bit about the balloons going up from the gas works at Wolverhampton? Setting a 7mile high record in 1862. 👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Mack Posted October 1, 2022 Report Share Posted October 1, 2022 18 hours ago, matty40s said: Any takers? East Ordsall Lane Lock No. 3, Salford, Manchester, Bolton and Bury Canal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek R. Posted October 1, 2022 Report Share Posted October 1, 2022 2 hours ago, Goliath said: It’s a good one ain’t it? Did you spot the bit about the balloons going up from the gas works at Wolverhampton? Setting a 7mile high record in 1862. 👍 I did - 7 miles is 36,960 feet, how on Earth did they survive? "1862 when the British Association arranged for two scientists, James Glaisher and Henry Coxwell, to attempt an altitude record for a balloon. They attained a record height of seven miles and almost died of Hypoxia inthe process" Seems they did! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartland Posted October 11, 2022 Author Report Share Posted October 11, 2022 How about this sketch of a building dated 1912, the year the structure was demolished. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Brightley Posted October 11, 2022 Report Share Posted October 11, 2022 1 hour ago, Heartland said: How about this sketch of a building dated 1912, the year the structure was demolished. That's easy - BCN company HQ, Paradise Street. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartland Posted October 14, 2022 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2022 Yes, but still an interesting piece of artwork Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartland Posted October 14, 2022 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2022 As the last was found easy the next is a map question. Where was this location and what happened to the warehouse. The date is said to be about 1830. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard West Posted October 14, 2022 Report Share Posted October 14, 2022 I reckon it's Great Barr Street Bridge since someone has kindly pencilled in "Heath Mill Lane". I assume the warehouse was demolished to make way for the railway bridge. Map Link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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