Where I am

[Heartland]

No not Sherborne Wharf, but you were right with your first thought. It is Salvage Turn as seen in 1966. This would be before the Royal Mail started with the Mailbox construction. The Fake History is the tramway tracks now embedded in the wharf surface, which clearly were not there in 1966. I believe they came from the timber yard on the NIA site.

 

Suggest change of beer to a real ale !

 

[David Mack]

6 hours ago, Heartland said:

I have yet to find a better image too of this image which is part of a group of images for Knowle Locks before and after the reconstructiion for the Grand Union Canal. It shows the engine house. The Warwick & Birmingham Canal's best known engine house was in Birmingham in Bowyer Street, but this one was considered important for recirculating water at the original 6 narrow locks.

 

As to another location look at this image below. With Knowle that building has completely  gone. In this view the transformation to the present is remarkable. There is a wide cobbled area on the left which was used by a Corporation and what is missing in this view is an example of fake history that has been placed there. The canal did extend into a blocked off basin by this 1966 new from the RCHS Collection. The main canal turned to the left.

 

 

Salvage Turn. On the Worcester and Birmingham just beyond Gas Street Basin. 

[beerbeerbeerbeerbeer]

4 minutes ago, Heartland said:

No not Sherborne Wharf, but you were right with your first thought. It is Salvage Turn as seen in 1966. This would be before the Royal Mail started with the Mailbox construction. The Fake History is the tramway tracks now embedded in the wharf surface, which clearly were not there in 1966. I believe they came from the timber yard on the NIA site.

 

Suggest change of beer to a real ale !

 

They always say go with your first answer but I couldn’t work out the right hand side and the false history threw me. Thought the writing on the apartments at Sherborne might fake. 
 

Ok, I might have a 6X this evening.

Where am I ?

Edited September 25, 2022 by Goliath

[David Mack]

On 22/09/2022 at 22:24, Rob-M said:

Knowle locks

Yes.

Here's the full picture.

And from a similar viewpoint today.

 

The new wide locks are on the site of the old pumping station. Side by side view of the original layout and pumping station with the current wide locks.

Original image from http://www.knowlehistory.org.uk/people&places/canal/canal.html

Edited September 25, 2022 by David Mack

[Heartland]

 Thought the writing on the apartments at Sherborne might fake.

 

Well the Fellows, Morton & Clayton writing does reflect accurate history. The much altered warehouse building to become apartments was actually that a warehouse building. FMC transferred part of their trade to the original structure when they left the Crescent and their art deco offices are still at the wharf hidden by the newer structures built aroinf them. 
 

[BuckbyLocks]

Before it became a Ministry of Food store during the Cold War, the building on the Sherborne Street Wharf was a corn mill and boiler house. When it was being used as the construction site for the Hyatt Hotel rooms, I was sent into this building for work and the milling structures were still very much in evidence. The FMC buildings were behind it and further along the wharf.

[Ray T]

23 hours ago, Heartland said:

I have yet to find a better image too of this image which is part of a group of images for Knowle Locks before and after the reconstructiion for the Grand Union Canal. 

Any good? 

 

Edited September 26, 2022 by Ray T

[Heartland]

Another image for consideration any idea where this Birmingham Corporation Gasworks was located ?

 

 

[davidg]

There's a village nearby?

[beerbeerbeerbeerbeer]

Swan Village

 

On the wednesbury arm

 

[Heartland]

Yus Swan Village Gas Works must be the Holdens !!!!

[beerbeerbeerbeerbeer]

https://www.nationalgrid.com/gas-transmission/document/134656/download
 

all on page 20 👍

[Captain Pegg]

I think the current Mrs P was QS for the demolition work at Swan Village.

 

She also did Foleshill - that I looked straight at from my childhood bedroom window - that became the site of the Ricoh/CBS Arena.

[Ray T]

34 minutes ago, Captain Pegg said:

I think the current Mrs P was QS for the demolition work at Swan Village.

 

She also did Foleshill - that I looked straight at from my childhood bedroom window - that became the site of the Ricoh/CBS Arena.

Photo IWM

[matty40s]

Any takers?

 

[Derek R.]

Liverpool?

14 hours ago, Goliath said:

https://www.nationalgrid.com/gas-transmission/document/134656/download
 

all on page 20 👍

 

Thanks for that - fascinating document. Gas Works were all over the place during my childhood.

[Ray T]

Whilst on the topic of gas / tar tankers, Jimmy Moore on Umea.

[beerbeerbeerbeerbeer]

5 hours ago, Derek R. said:

Liverpool?

 

Thanks for that - fascinating document. Gas Works were all over the place during my childhood.

It’s a good one ain’t it?

Did you spot the bit about the balloons going up from the gas works at Wolverhampton?

Setting a 7mile high record in 1862. 👍

[David Mack]

18 hours ago, matty40s said:

Any takers?

 

East Ordsall Lane Lock No. 3, Salford, Manchester, Bolton and Bury Canal.

[Derek R.]

2 hours ago, Goliath said:

It’s a good one ain’t it?

Did you spot the bit about the balloons going up from the gas works at Wolverhampton?

Setting a 7mile high record in 1862. 👍

 

I did - 7 miles is 36,960 feet, how on Earth did they survive?

"1862 when the British Association arranged for two scientists, James Glaisher and Henry Coxwell, to attempt an altitude record for a balloon. They attained a record height of seven miles and almost died of Hypoxia inthe process"

Seems they did!

[Heartland]

How about this sketch of a building dated 1912, the year the structure was demolished.

 

[John Brightley]

1 hour ago, Heartland said:

How about this sketch of a building dated 1912, the year the structure was demolished.

That's easy - BCN company HQ, Paradise Street.

[Heartland]

Yes, but still an interesting piece of artwork

 

[Heartland]

As the last was found easy the next is a map question. Where was this location and what happened to the warehouse. The date is said to be about 1830.

 

[Richard West]

I reckon it's Great Barr Street Bridge since someone has kindly pencilled in "Heath Mill Lane". I assume the warehouse was demolished to make way for the railway bridge.

 

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