Sanddancer Posted October 9, 2021 Report Share Posted October 9, 2021 I've just replaced my stove with another identical one, it has no fire bricks and when I asked they say it has baffle plates and does not need any. Is this correct as I've always used them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PD1964 Posted October 9, 2021 Report Share Posted October 9, 2021 (edited) May depend on fire make but all the one’s I seen have had some form of fire brick. Just Google your type of fire with the word “firebrick” and if it needs them they will show. Who is the manufacturer and model of the fire? Edited October 9, 2021 by PD1964 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Brooks Posted October 9, 2021 Report Share Posted October 9, 2021 AIUI burning wood does not need fire bricks, but when burning solid fuel it does. I don't think the baffle plates has anything to do with it, unless they are sacrificial plates around the inside of the stove carcase. Is this yet another case of a sales person giving duff information? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonka Posted October 9, 2021 Report Share Posted October 9, 2021 Stoves with back boilers do not have firebrick's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBiscuits Posted October 9, 2021 Report Share Posted October 9, 2021 Just now, Tonka said: Stoves with back boilers do not have firebrick's Mine does. It's one of those very rare Morso Squirrels ... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonka Posted October 9, 2021 Report Share Posted October 9, 2021 9 minutes ago, TheBiscuits said: Mine does. It's one of those very rare Morso Squirrels ... Sorry I assumed because my Aarrow stove with backboiler does not have them and the Aarrow stove without backboiler that we used to have them , then all stoves were the same. Thank you for putting me right 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulJ Posted October 9, 2021 Report Share Posted October 9, 2021 38 minutes ago, TheBiscuits said: Mine does. It's one of those very rare Morso Squirrels ... Mine too but its a Wenlock (with backboiler). In fact mine has double firebricks to keep the heat down😀 If I use it as a log burner though the destructions do say to remove grate and firebricks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Brooks Posted October 9, 2021 Report Share Posted October 9, 2021 57 minutes ago, Tonka said: Stoves with back boilers do not have firebrick's I think the back boiler buffers the stove carcase from combustion, but I would expect them to have some form of protection at the sides if designed to burn solid fuel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slim Posted October 9, 2021 Report Share Posted October 9, 2021 1 hour ago, TheBiscuits said: Mine does. It's one of those very rare Morso Squirrels ... So does mine. (Squirrel) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PD1964 Posted October 9, 2021 Report Share Posted October 9, 2021 2 hours ago, Tonka said: Sorry I assumed because my Aarrow stove with backboiler does not have them and the Aarrow stove without backboiler that we used to have them , then all stoves were the same. Thank you for putting me right My Aarrow Becton has fire bricks and you just alter the grate pitch for wood/coal, I can see a back boiler stove not needing a rear brick but maybe side bricks. If the OP puts the make/model on it would be easier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 9, 2021 Report Share Posted October 9, 2021 The OP posted this in June and suggested the replacement would be the same. Firewarm 4 (which personally I've never heard of) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bee Posted October 9, 2021 Report Share Posted October 9, 2021 Unless you force a lot of air through a coal fire it won't melt the sides but they will not last very long! just look at the firebars or grate in a stove, bent, cracked, broken, then think what that same heat will do to thin cast iron! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ianws Posted October 9, 2021 Report Share Posted October 9, 2021 We have a firewarm 4 which has been in use with mainly smokeless fuel for many years. It doesn't have traditional fire bricks. It has thick cast iron bricks at the sides and back with a gap to the actual stove sides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PD1964 Posted October 9, 2021 Report Share Posted October 9, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, The Happy Nomad said: The OP posted this in June and suggested the replacement would be the same. Firewarm 4 (which personally I've never heard of) If it is that one a quick user manual search and it has no mention of fire bricks and the fire parts list does not contain any. It does say though if using coal mineral fuel, do not stack higher then the rear burn plate as this could result in damage. Edited October 9, 2021 by PD1964 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Brooks Posted October 9, 2021 Report Share Posted October 9, 2021 8 minutes ago, Ianws said: We have a firewarm 4 which has been in use with mainly smokeless fuel for many years. It doesn't have traditional fire bricks. It has thick cast iron bricks at the sides and back with a gap to the actual stove sides. Those must be what the chap referred to as baffles, but I could see no mention of them in the parts list for the stove THM linked to. That would make perfect sense as long as they are sacrificial and can be easily replaced.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ianws Posted October 9, 2021 Report Share Posted October 9, 2021 This is the inside of our stove. The iron "bricks" are still sound after approx 15 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanddancer Posted October 9, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2021 8 hours ago, The Happy Nomad said: The OP posted this in June and suggested the replacement would be the same. Firewarm 4 (which personally I've never heard of) That's the one talked to manufacture and the did say no need Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ianws Posted October 9, 2021 Report Share Posted October 9, 2021 That's what I have and shown in the picture above. As long as you have the side iron liners with a small gap between them to the stove sides ( feel round the top of the sides) that's how they are meant to be . And worked fine for me for many years 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanddancer Posted October 10, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 10, 2021 20 hours ago, Ianws said: We have a firewarm 4 which has been in use with mainly smokeless fuel for many years. It doesn't have traditional fire bricks. It has thick cast iron bricks at the sides and back with a gap to the actual stove sides. Yes that's correct but in my old one I used fire bricks the new one is nearly the same few changes but no bricks came it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanddancer Posted October 10, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 10, 2021 5 minutes ago, Sanddancer said: Yes that's correct but in my old one I used fire bricks the new one is nearly the same few changes but no bricks came it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanddancer Posted October 10, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 10, 2021 On 09/10/2021 at 14:56, Ianws said: This is the inside of our stove. The iron "bricks" are still sound after approx 15 years. This This is just what I wanted to see and hear. Thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanddancer Posted October 11, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 11, 2021 I've now taken the bricks out to try without hope it works okay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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