ditchcrawler Posted October 4, 2021 Report Share Posted October 4, 2021 Some of you may use Fibre Factory to see who is charging a comparative price for diesel. It so it is moving home to http://diesel.afmm.org.uk/ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idle Days Posted October 5, 2021 Report Share Posted October 5, 2021 Thanks for providing such a useful database. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchcrawler Posted October 5, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2021 5 hours ago, Idle Days said: Thanks for providing such a useful database. Its only as good as the feed back provided by boaters 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idle Days Posted October 5, 2021 Report Share Posted October 5, 2021 22 minutes ago, ditchcrawler said: Its only as good as the feed back provided by boaters Very true, hence the importance observing the date of the information, and providing feedback on your supplier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enigmatic Posted October 8, 2021 Report Share Posted October 8, 2021 A very useful service. I should probably send you some updates. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pearley Posted October 8, 2021 Report Share Posted October 8, 2021 1 hour ago, enigmatic said: A very useful service. I should probably send you some updates. Yes. So should everybody. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchcrawler Posted October 8, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 8, 2021 3 hours ago, enigmatic said: A very useful service. I should probably send you some updates. Not me, its not mine but I always update when I buy diesel 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHS Posted October 9, 2021 Report Share Posted October 9, 2021 I have used this website for the last couple of years but not sent them any prices. Have swapped the bookmark on my phone and emailed them today with my last fill price paid. Will make sure I do this from now on. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetzi Posted October 22, 2021 Report Share Posted October 22, 2021 I haven't been following since the fuel crisis - what's a good price for diesel per litre in this climate? Some places that are listed as 70p /litre (which I'd consider a good price) on the spreadsheet are now around 90p. Is that the new good price? Its a great effort so not knocking it, but unfortunately the spreadsheet is kind of too out of date to give that sort of overall picture. I know some folks get red diesel delivered but seeing as I can only store around 250 litres I'm guessing this isn't an option for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan de Enfield Posted October 22, 2021 Report Share Posted October 22, 2021 (edited) 39 minutes ago, jetzi said: I know some folks get red diesel delivered but seeing as I can only store around 250 litres I'm guessing this isn't an option for me. Many suppliers will deliver 205 litre barrels, or a minimum of 500 litres 'loose' Edit to add one barrel supplier : Red Diesel Suppliers - Nationwide Gas Oil Deliveries | Speedy Fuels Just google 'barrels of red diesel' to get dozens of hits. Edited October 22, 2021 by Alan de Enfield Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Mack Posted October 22, 2021 Report Share Posted October 22, 2021 If this is for propulsion use, then doesn't the supplier have to be authorised to deal in marine fuel, and to have systems in place to charge you the duty on the propulsion proportion of the fuel? I'm not sure that many land based fuel merchants can do this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldGoat Posted October 22, 2021 Report Share Posted October 22, 2021 1 hour ago, David Mack said: If this is for propulsion use, then doesn't the supplier have to be authorised to deal in marine fuel, and to have systems in place to charge you the duty on the propulsion proportion of the fuel? I'm not sure that many land based fuel merchants can do this. I doubt it... Anyone can buy MGO from a distributor - it's only when 'you' are registered as a reseller that reocrds and acting with a modicum of 'due diligence' apply. IMO the whole mess was wished upon the UK as 'that lot in BXL' made a stink about British Boats navigating 'the sleeve' and using cheaperfuel than the EU chaps.... HMRC were Peed off as the potential extra revenue gained was far less than the costs of policing it. To answer the question, all the seller has to do is to maintain a record of sales with an customer declaration - it's then up to HMRC to follow up any obvious (LARGE) abuse of the 'concession'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Mack Posted October 22, 2021 Report Share Posted October 22, 2021 2 hours ago, OldGoat said: I doubt it... Anyone can buy MGO from a distributor - it's only when 'you' are registered as a reseller that reocrds and acting with a modicum of 'due diligence' apply. IMO the whole mess was wished upon the UK as 'that lot in BXL' made a stink about British Boats navigating 'the sleeve' and using cheaperfuel than the EU chaps.... HMRC were Peed off as the potential extra revenue gained was far less than the costs of policing it. To answer the question, all the seller has to do is to maintain a record of sales with an customer declaration - it's then up to HMRC to follow up any obvious (LARGE) abuse of the 'concession'. Just looked it up. Sellers of marine diesel must notify HMRC. https://www.gov.uk/guidance/fuel-used-in-private-pleasure-craft-and-for-private-pleasure-flying-excise-notice-554 3. Suppliers of diesel for use in private pleasure craft in Great Britain 3.1 Registration As rebated diesel is a controlled oil, all suppliers must be a registered dealer in controlled oil. Not all registered dealers supply fuel for use by private pleasure craft, but if you do (or will), you must tell HMRC. Registered dealers who supply rebated diesel, biodiesel or bioblend to private pleasure craft must be registered with HMRC in order to charge and collect the duty, and to receive a payment return. If you’re registering as a new dealer, you’ll be asked to declare on the registration form if you supply rebated fuels to private pleasure craft. If you start supplying to private pleasure craft after you’ve registered, you must notify us in writing. HMRC will send you a new registered dealer in controlled oil registration certificate, showing that you’re a supplier of fuel to private pleasure craft. You’ll also receive a payment return towards the end of the accounting period (see paragraph 5.1). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alway Swilby Posted October 22, 2021 Report Share Posted October 22, 2021 £1.02 for domestic at Goole Boathouse today. They have been cheap in the past. I suspect over £1 is the new normal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchcrawler Posted October 23, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 23, 2021 My heating oil has gone from 42 to 62p in two months Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momac Posted October 23, 2021 Report Share Posted October 23, 2021 26 minutes ago, ditchcrawler said: My heating oil has gone from 42 to 62p in two months I dare say it has . But 42p was abnormally low was it not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan de Enfield Posted October 23, 2021 Report Share Posted October 23, 2021 (edited) 35 minutes ago, ditchcrawler said: My heating oil has gone from 42 to 62p in two months @MartynG said : I dare say it has . But 42p was abnormally low was it not? But you have quoted prices for diesel not Kerosene That is the problem when you look at average prices, some are considerably lower, whilst some folks don't phone around don't 'play the game' and just accept 'market' prices. For Kero : I paid 38.45p Feb 2021 and just paid 51.9p this week. Same supplier and both deliveries for 1500 litres. I had one supplier who would not give me a price for this weeks delivery saying the pricing was too volatile and they would give me a price on the morning of delivery once the tanker was loaded, when pushed, they said it would be well over the 60p mark. They showed no concern when I told them I had a 'fixed price' quoted of the 51.9p Edited October 23, 2021 by Alan de Enfield Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momac Posted October 23, 2021 Report Share Posted October 23, 2021 19 minutes ago, Alan de Enfield said: But you have quoted prices for diesel not Kerosene Okay here the home heating oil chart for the same 2 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan de Enfield Posted October 23, 2021 Report Share Posted October 23, 2021 28 minutes ago, MartynG said: Okay here the home heating oil chart for the same 2 years Those prices include VAT so my 38.5p (exc VAT) in February was about the average. The chart doe not go to 20th October but was starting to show a fall in September. The prices I was quoted for 1500 litres (exc VAT) were : 60p + 58.45p 58.65p And my most frequent supplier (you can seee why) 51.9p Boiler Juice were quoting 70p for delivery sometime within 2 weeks and 63.85p for delivery sometime within 3 weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchcrawler Posted October 23, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 23, 2021 3 hours ago, MartynG said: I dare say it has . But 42p was abnormally low was it not? I was quoting heating oil, not red diesel. Last time it was over 50p was 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idle Days Posted March 16, 2022 Report Share Posted March 16, 2022 Diesel has gone up here at Crick Marina £1.51 for domestic heating use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchcrawler Posted March 29, 2022 Author Report Share Posted March 29, 2022 This gives an indication of the wholesale price of red diesel Fuel prices - Farmers Weekly (fwi.co.uk) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan de Enfield Posted March 29, 2022 Report Share Posted March 29, 2022 1 minute ago, ditchcrawler said: This gives an indication of the wholesale price of red diesel Fuel prices - Farmers Weekly (fwi.co.uk) 109.2p/l for 5000 litres That'll be the agricultural rebated rate (the same as boat 'domestic' rate) Propulsion rate will be 46.81p'l higher, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momac Posted March 29, 2022 Report Share Posted March 29, 2022 1 hour ago, Alan de Enfield said: 109.2p/l for 5000 litres That'll be the agricultural rebated rate (the same as boat 'domestic' rate) Propulsion rate will be 46.81p'l higher, Including VAT? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan de Enfield Posted March 29, 2022 Report Share Posted March 29, 2022 4 minutes ago, MartynG said: Including VAT? Goodpoint - Probably not (it doesn't when we buy it, VAT is an add-on) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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