Hudds Lad Posted July 21, 2022 Report Share Posted July 21, 2022 I think what they need to remember is that your average boater is not in the first flush of youth, and more than likely with eyesight thats in decline. Any sign needs to be simple enough and clear enough to be read from the boat in the centre of whatever channel width there is, and far enough from the portal to allow you to react to other craft if its untimed one way working. I’ve seen some signs (sadly forgotten where) that appear to be full of info, but you’d need to be stood in front of it to read it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sueb Posted July 21, 2022 Report Share Posted July 21, 2022 What does the bottom left sign mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob-M Posted July 21, 2022 Report Share Posted July 21, 2022 1 minute ago, sueb said: What does the bottom left sign mean? Sound your horn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Mack Posted July 21, 2022 Report Share Posted July 21, 2022 1 minute ago, Rob-M said: Sound your horn. Does it? Are you supposed to sound your horn on entry to every tunnel? Or does it merely mean that you should have a horn? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob-M Posted July 21, 2022 Report Share Posted July 21, 2022 1 minute ago, David Mack said: Does it? Are you supposed to sound your horn on entry to every tunnel? Or does it merely mean that you should have a horn? I'm not 100% certain but I thought I had seen advice to sound your horn before entering a tunnel. Not something I do though unless it is a one way tunnel that you can't see through or a tunnel with a blind entry\exit. Just show how ambiguous pictures can be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Mack Posted July 21, 2022 Report Share Posted July 21, 2022 Confusing signs are not limited to CRT. I encountered this in Hebden Bridge this afternoon. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dixi188 Posted July 21, 2022 Report Share Posted July 21, 2022 I suppose you could get a bicycle through the gap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stroudwater1 Posted July 22, 2022 Report Share Posted July 22, 2022 17 hours ago, ditchcrawler said: I don't think any of their tunnel signage measurements bear any resemblance to the actual tunnel measurements. The one I listed is probably 10 foot wide not 7 and maybe 15 feet high, also are they encouraging boaters to try and do them at 2 MPH they can't even get the sums right 🤣 At least they have the tunnel name correct - newer Nicholson Guide and Birmingham City FC please take note 😉😂 (unless you wish to add Kings Norton tunnel as the alternative that is ) Wast Hill must be at least 15 foot wide like many long tunnels , I presume it’s intended to mean maximum beam but it ought to be maximum saggy working boat width? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Marshall Posted July 22, 2022 Report Share Posted July 22, 2022 I'll be interested to see if they've improved the siting of the sign at the south end of Saltersford tunnel. For years it has been so far from the tunnel that people missed it and the timing instructions - I've lost count of the number of boaters who came through (or tried to) at the wrong time & when grumbled at seemed mystified. I told both BW and CRT about many years ago, but maybe in the excitement of all this new blue stuff... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sueb Posted July 22, 2022 Report Share Posted July 22, 2022 On 21/07/2022 at 20:08, Rob-M said: Sound your horn. Well I would never have guessed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hudds Lad Posted July 22, 2022 Report Share Posted July 22, 2022 On 21/07/2022 at 20:08, Rob-M said: Sound your horn. I’d go with horn required, similar to the lifejacket symbol meaning lifejacket required. Sound your horn would be a horn with lines out of it, similar to the light symbol. I think. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerra Posted July 22, 2022 Report Share Posted July 22, 2022 6 minutes ago, Hudds Lad said: I’d go with horn required, similar to the lifejacket symbol meaning lifejacket required. Sound your horn would be a horn with lines out of it, similar to the light symbol. I think. You mean like the ones sold for the purpose? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo47 Posted July 22, 2022 Report Share Posted July 22, 2022 A couple of years ago a fine for passing a bus gate in Chelmsford was overturned on appeal as the adjudicator agreed that the signage was confusing.. Nonetheless, the signs are to remain. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-essex-47175357.amp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyG Posted July 22, 2022 Report Share Posted July 22, 2022 1 hour ago, Hudds Lad said: I’d go with horn required, similar to the lifejacket symbol meaning lifejacket required. Sound your horn would be a horn with lines out of it, similar to the light symbol. I think. Lifejacket to be worn. Horn to be sounded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puffling Posted July 23, 2022 Report Share Posted July 23, 2022 On 21/07/2022 at 20:08, Rob-M said: Sound your horn. What they really mean is Horn OK Please, in the style of Indian and Pakistani truck tailgates Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchcrawler Posted July 23, 2022 Report Share Posted July 23, 2022 17 hours ago, LadyG said: Lifejacket to be worn. Horn to be sounded. I don't do ether 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Riley Posted July 23, 2022 Report Share Posted July 23, 2022 17 minutes ago, ditchcrawler said: I don't do ether Neither do I, gives me a banging head. 19 hours ago, Jerra said: You mean like the ones sold for the purpose? Blow your own trumpet? We have some experts on here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davem399 Posted July 23, 2022 Report Share Posted July 23, 2022 Perhaps it’s a sign for Arthur to blow on his trombone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheshire cat Posted July 23, 2022 Report Share Posted July 23, 2022 On 17/07/2022 at 18:56, steve hayes said: Surely if this triangle means bats roosting the empty triangle means no bats roosting yet 🙂 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan de Enfield Posted July 23, 2022 Report Share Posted July 23, 2022 Warning : "Canoeists, be aware of comets" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beerbeerbeerbeerbeer Posted July 24, 2022 Report Share Posted July 24, 2022 There’s a big blue sign at Wolverhampton. Massive, I’m sure folk on buses from above can see it. And marvel at what lovely things the Canal and River Trust offer Water, Showers, toilets, somewhere to empty the loo. A welcome sight when leaving the flight or before you go down. Well, they’re out of order. And you’re locked out. But sign looks good though don’t it 👍 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davewally Posted July 25, 2022 Report Share Posted July 25, 2022 i went through Wast Hill tunnel yesterday. 2493m is 1.55miles. At 2mph this is 46mins. At least get the maths right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob-M Posted July 30, 2022 Report Share Posted July 30, 2022 Didn't get a chance to take a picture but the sign on Coseley Tunnel had the words Sound Horn underneath the horn sign. Not sure why you need to sound your horn as you can see straight through and it is a wide tunnel, I don't bother turning on my tunnel lamp as it is short as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beerbeerbeerbeerbeer Posted July 30, 2022 Report Share Posted July 30, 2022 3 minutes ago, Rob-M said: Didn't get a chance to take a picture but the sign on Coseley Tunnel had the words Sound Horn underneath the horn sign. Not sure why you need to sound your horn as you can see straight through and it is a wide tunnel, I don't bother turning on my tunnel lamp as it is short as well. Glad you do that too. If it’s a short tunnel I don’t bother either. I have to go to the front to turn me light on, so it’s more of a faff and a nuisance than a benefit. How did you find the weeds? I think it took me 4 maybe 5 hrs to get from Wolverhampton to the Black Country Museum. Slow going. But having said that, I did one weed hatch visit somewhere before the tunnel and that turned out to be the only visit down the hatch. I picked up nothing coming down the Aston flight leaving Brum!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob-M Posted July 30, 2022 Report Share Posted July 30, 2022 4 minutes ago, Goliath said: Glad you do that too. If it’s a short tunnel I don’t bother either. I have to go to the front to turn me light on, so it’s more of a faff and a nuisance than a benefit. How did you find the weeds? I think it took me 4 maybe 5 hrs to get from Wolverhampton to the Black Country Museum. Slow going. But having said that, I did one weed hatch visit somewhere before the tunnel and that turned out to be the only visit down the hatch. I picked up nothing coming down the Aston flight leaving Brum!! We did Brum to Black Country Museum yesterday in 4hrs, we went along the main line to Albion Junction and then up the Brades Staircase as I like to use those locks. Another boat had cut quite a good channel so it wasn't too bad. Had to just keep giving bursts or reverse to clear the weed. This morning went across to Wolverhampton which was quite slow but again regular reverse was all that was needed, took about 3hrs, stopped for water in Broad Street and two boats got in the locks before us but we weren't really held up as although all crews of 2 we moved down the flight efficiently. Now in Gailey. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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