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2 hours ago, Alan de Enfield said:

 

 

Only .............. ONLY ...................... how many do you have on the other foot ?

Twelve                                                                                                                                          inches.

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3 hours ago, Tracy D'arth said:

All drinking water is tanked at some stage in its delivery.  The chlorine dissolved in the supply water will take quite a long while to disappear and in the meantime is sterilising your tank. 

Providing the tank is used regularly and refilled often I see no reason for not drinking the water, have done so for 50 years and I am only slightly do-lally and have only 6 toes on one foot.

I didn't know you came from Norfolk

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1 minute ago, Alan de Enfield said:

 

Ate they the same as the Lincolnshire Fens where they have webbed feet and pointy heads and win all the swimming competitions ?

Lincolnshire is a long way from most of Norfolk, not many would travel that far. we had a chap in the village, he went to Norwich once, all of 20 miles away

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6 hours ago, NB DW2 said:

 

That's right.  Previously up for £85,000.  The feedback was, having had the offer rejected, the owner wanted full asking price.  I said there was no more room for negotiation on my part beyond what I'd offered (the figure started with a '7', so not unreasonable).

 

I suspect the owners will regret not accepting your offer in another couple of months when it still hasn't sold. In the current strong market sellers are chancing their arm with asking prices, however generally they don't sell until the price is right. 

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So I'm with Athy. We don't drink the tank water and bring water up to the boat with us in a couple of large jerry cans for drinking.

 

Not because of the iron but because our water down here in Devon is proper soft water off Dartmoor, and your water in the Midlands is that 'orrible scummy stuff that makes the tea taste nasty !

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I think they will get what they are asking or very close to it. I have admired it every time I have passed through.

 

Regarding the windows not being removed as part of the repaint I had a chat with the painter about this and he said sometimes it is more trouble than it is worth. If there is no obvious corrosion its probably best to let sleeping dogs lie.

On our boat the windows were taken out (which is what I expected) but after the repaint screws couldn't always gain purchase on the original holes. The painter's solution was to use longer/bigger screws which split the woodwork of the interior trim in places 😞

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Integral tanks are good, just a bit out of fashion.

 

I think the boat is over priced but expect somebody will buy it. Its a "specialist" boat so won't appeal to most new aspiring liveaboards. I like the look of it but for me a boat like that just has to have a proper engine room.

 

...............Dave

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I don't like it and I don't understand the thoughts behind going to the trouble of constructing an expensive boat on the basis of a historic/traditional canal boat and then just getting it all wrong.

You don't even have to look carefully to see it's not even a nod to history.  It's a caricature, and like all cartoons relies on exaggerated features Like Spitting Image does. 

The front end is ugly and impractical

The fore cabin again is ugly, too tall, and would get in the way. What purpose does it serve?

The main cabin is slab sided, the lack of tumblehome is a short cut.

The hull to cabin proportions just hurt the eye.

I could continue, but would only be listing the reasons why I wouldn't want it.  Seeing as I would never buy it and I can't imagine anyone else wanting to know my opinions I'll shut up.

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1 hour ago, zenataomm said:

I don't like it and I don't understand the thoughts behind going to the trouble of constructing an expensive boat on the basis of a historic/traditional canal boat and then just getting it all wrong.

You don't even have to look carefully to see it's not even a nod to history.  It's a caricature, and like all cartoons relies on exaggerated features Like Spitting Image does. 

The front end is ugly and impractical

The fore cabin again is ugly, too tall, and would get in the way. What purpose does it serve?

The main cabin is slab sided, the lack of tumblehome is a short cut.

The hull to cabin proportions just hurt the eye.

I could continue, but would only be listing the reasons why I wouldn't want it.  Seeing as I would never buy it and I can't imagine anyone else wanting to know my opinions I'll shut up.

The very later Stowe Hills(2003/4 onwards) front ends got worse and worse, I think Reeves was trying to push the boundaries of common sense just to reduce the steel budget. There were a couple of hulls bought in from Mel Davies too, and these are characteristically tasteful and well made, albeit with a very semi circular back end.

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4 hours ago, matty40s said:

The very later Stowe Hills(2003/4 onwards) front ends got worse and worse, I think Reeves was trying to push the boundaries of common sense just to reduce the steel budget. There were a couple of hulls bought in from Mel Davies too, and these are characteristically tasteful and well made, albeit with a very semi circular back end.

I didn't know that Stowe Hill used Mel Davis shells (our boat is a Mel Davis, hence my interest). I'd be interested to see them, or even pictures of them.

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1 hour ago, ditchcrawler said:

I thought that Stow Hill use to make their own shells until the fitted out that imitation tunnel tug, "Turn o the world"  of something

Stowe Hill made their own shells until the late 90's, why the change to outsourcing hulls I dont know. Les from Welford Marina workshops used to build them, he fell out with the owner that replaced Pete Hill in 2005, but they were using Reeves long before that.

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If the op is interested in a Stowe Hill boat then Elidir is for sale with Rugby boats (Reeves shell) for £10k less and a Gardner 2LW. Worth looking at the video just for the stove in the back cabin!

 

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Thanks for the responses, all.

 

I considered upping the offer yesterday but decided against it.  It'd be too much heart over head.  I still like the shell despite it being a bit of a caricature of a thing.  Certainly more striking than a lot of the more bland, modern stuff.

 

I saw the ad for Elidir as soon as it went live, thanks.  I prefer it to be honest and if anything it shows Tarn as not being great value for money.  I'm wanting something for full time liveaboard use so really want a modern engine. 

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Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, some one will love something someone will hate it. There is no right or wrong

1 hour ago, BrandyMark said:

If the op is interested in a Stowe Hill boat then Elidir is for sale with Rugby boats (Reeves shell) for £10k less and a Gardner 2LW. Worth looking at the video just for the stove in the back cabin!

 

I made a comment on FB that the problem with having a Gardener engine was you had to have the engine hole doors open in all weathers. interesting

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5 minutes ago, ditchcrawler said:

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, some one will love something someone will hate it. There is no right or wrong

I made a comment on FB that the problem with having a Gardener engine was you had to have the engine hole doors open in all weathers. interesting

Its compulsory, a vintage engine has to be on show for all the old boys to drool over (I have the same problem with my Kelvin K2 😁

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4 minutes ago, BrandyMark said:

Its compulsory, a vintage engine has to be on show for all the old boys to drool over (I have the same problem with my Kelvin K2 😁

But some of the comments I got back didn't go down to well ether. Do they get to hot with the doors shut, Do they give off lots of fumes, were just two of them

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My goodness I so wish I could buy another boat! There are some stunning boats around and I've been lucky enough to be invited to have a glimpse at a few of the most awesome early engines. We are restoring the house built by the first MD of Ruston, Proctor and Co in 1893 so seeing a cherished original Ruston boat engine last year was a very special moment. I have mixed feelings about replica historic boats (faux rivets etc) and certainly wouldn't know how to care for a vintage engine, but every day is a school day so perhaps one day ......

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6 minutes ago, MrsM said:

and certainly wouldn't know how to care for a vintage engine

Well mostly in the same way as you would care for a modern engine - regular oil and (if fitted) filter changes. Some vintage engines have grease cups on things like water pump bearings, or oil drip feed to the valves, but it is just part of the daily startup routine to attend to these. 

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2 hours ago, BrandyMark said:

If the op is interested in a Stowe Hill boat then Elidir is for sale with Rugby boats (Reeves shell) for £10k less and a Gardner 2LW. Worth looking at the video just for the stove in the back cabin!

 

Has been moored in Calcutt Marina just along from us. Probably quite close to @Tony Brooks use to moor. Very well looked after. Think that the last painter painted it in the wrong green so they got a discount, could be wrong of course.

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