Aylesbury murder investigation launched after man found dead by Grand Union Canal

[frangar]

[Magpie Patrick - quoted post removed]

 

I’m not sure this is something to make a joke over...myself and others are just commenting on pieces of evidence as we see them. Indeed we don’t know if that boat and it’s crew are the innocent party...maybe never will. The tragic fact remains that a chap lost his life just trying to do his job. No amount of justice will be enough for his friends & family. 

Edited April 27, 2021 by magpie patrick

[magpie patrick]

1 minute ago, frangar said:

I’m not sure this is something to make a joke over...myself and others are just commenting on pieces of evidence as we see them. Indeed we don’t know if that boat and it’s crew are the innocent party...maybe never will. The tragic fact remains that a chap lost his life just trying to do his job. No amount of justice will be enough for his friends & family. 

Agreed and posts have been hidden

[bigcol]

1 minute ago, frangar said:

I’m not sure this is something to make a joke over...myself and others are just commenting on pieces of evidence as we see them. Indeed we don’t know if that boat and it’s crew are the innocent party...maybe never will. The tragic fact remains that a chap lost his life just trying to do his job. No amount of justice will be enough for his friends & family. 

hi yes I agree with you Franger I will delete the post 

[magpie patrick]

This is a thread discussing the tragic and probably unlawful death of a canal volunteer - stick with the subject and avoid speculation especially of the pejorative kind 

 

[billS]

1 hour ago, matty40s said:

There were 2 men when it came past Stowe Hill

 

Does the boat have two tillers?

[bigcol]

2 minutes ago, frangar said:

I’m not sure this is something to make a joke over...myself and others are just commenting on pieces of evidence as we see them. Indeed we don’t know if that boat and it’s crew are the innocent party...maybe never will. The tragic fact remains that a chap lost his life just trying to do his job. No amount of justice will be enough for his friends & family. 

I’m trying to delete post and have asked moderators to remove

sorry for any upset cause

[magpie patrick]

Just now, bigcol said:

I’m trying to delete post and have asked moderators to remove

sorry for any upset cause

No worries - it's gone! 

[matty40s]

42 minutes ago, billS said:

 

Does the boat have two tillers?

Yes

[frangar]

7 minutes ago, matty40s said:

Yes

One seems to be for the outboard and I guess the other is for the non fitted inboard....There also seems to be a large outboard in bits and upsidedown in the well deck on the BBC pic..

[adam1uk]

The police tell me the canal may not be open until Thursday.

[Tracy D'arth]

16 minutes ago, frangar said:

One seems to be for the outboard and I guess the other is for the non fitted inboard....There also seems to be a large outboard in bits and upsidedown in the well deck on the BBC pic..

And it seems to have been hastily tied up with an overtight centre line.

1 minute ago, adam1uk said:

The police tell me the canal may not be open until Thursday.

Divers?

[Guest]

2 minutes ago, Tracy D'arth said:

And it seems to have been hastily tied up with an overtight centre line.

Divers?

 

Its on a lock landing, I often tied up with just a centreline if transiting a lock.

 

Maybe thats the reason?

[mark99]

The other bote looks interesting "Old Fred" <sic>.

 

Tragic for the victim.

Edited April 27, 2021 by mark99

[adam1uk]

1 hour ago, The Happy Nomad said:

 

Its on a lock landing, I often tied up with just a centreline if transiting a lock.

 

Maybe thats the reason?

It’s not on a lock landing, it’s just off the landing — and it wasn’t tied like that at the time of the incident.

 

There are still forensic searches going on; I don’t know about divers, but it’s a possibility I suppose.

 

edited to add, it wasn’t on the lock landing when we came past a few minutes after the incident, but it is now.

Edited April 27, 2021 by adam1uk

[Guest]

13 minutes ago, adam1uk said:

It’s not on a lock landing, it’s just off the landing — and it wasn’t tied like that at the time of the incident.

 

There are still forensic searches going on; I don’t know about divers, but it’s a possibility I suppose.

 

It sure looks like its on a lock landing to me, all be it on the very last/first bollard.

 

 

Edited April 27, 2021 by The Happy Nomad

[Izz]

I'm moored nearby and I know the CRT data collector. He's always been very nice to me.

 

This is a terrible thing to happen and I just want to send my love to the guy's family and friends at this time.

10 minutes ago, The Happy Nomad said:

 

It sure looks like its on a lock landing to me, all be it on the very last/first bollard.

 

 

 

That picture is deceptive. It's not on the lock landing. I know because I've been walking past that stupid boat every day.

[Sir Percy]

Arrest made:

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-56888615

 

Two arrests have been made by investigators.

A man, of no fixed address, is being held on suspicion of murder.

A woman, 41, from Birmingham, was arrested on Monday on suspicion of assisting an offender and perverting the course of justice.

Edited April 27, 2021 by Sir Percy
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[Guest]

4 minutes ago, Izz said:

I'm moored nearby and I know the CRT data collector. He's always been very nice to me.

 

This is a terrible thing to happen and I just want to send my love to the guy's family and friends at this time.

 

That picture is deceptive. It's not on the lock landing. I know because I've been walking past that stupid boat every day.

 

Clearly there appears to be a difference of opinion on what constitutes a lock landing then. If there are four, five or six bollards on the approach to a lock and none prior to it Ive always regarded the bollards as being there for the purposes of mooring one or more boats in order to operate the lock.

 

It might explain why some boaters moor on them not realising they are inconvenienceing other boaters.

[PCSB]

4 minutes ago, Sir Percy said:

Arrest made:

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-56888615

Your link goes to an article about London City ... this link should relate to the arrest I hope. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-56898439

 

It is a sad and terrible thing for sure.

[adam1uk]

Just now, The Happy Nomad said:

 

Clearly there appears to be a difference of opinion on what constitutes a lock landing then. If there are four, five or six bollards on the approach to a lock and none prior to it Ive always regarded the bollards as being there for the purposes of mooring one or more boats in order to operate the lock.

 

It might explain why some boaters moor on them not realising they are inconvenienceing other boaters.

As I added above, it’s on the lock landing now but it wasn’t at the time of the incident.

[Guest]

Just now, adam1uk said:

As I added above, it’s on the lock landing now.

 

So it seems.

[Izz]

2 minutes ago, The Happy Nomad said:

 

Clearly there appears to be a difference of opinion on what constitutes a lock landing then. If there are four, five or six bollards on the approach to a lock and none prior to it Ive always regarded the bollards as being there for the purposes of mooring one or more boats in order to operate the lock.

 

It might explain why some boaters moor on them not realising they are inconvenienceing other boaters.

 

I walk past it every day. If it was on the lock landing I'd notice because it annoys me when people do that.

[Guest]

1 minute ago, Izz said:

 

I walk past it every day. If it was on the lock landing I'd notice because it annoys me when people do that.

 

Yes  I think its been clarified it wasnt on the lock landing at the time of the incident but is now, which the pictures clearly show.

[Izz]

The police must have moved it so they can look underneath where it was.

[frangar]

44 minutes ago, Izz said:

I'm moored nearby and I know the CRT data collector. He's always been very nice to me.

 

This is a terrible thing to happen and I just want to send my love to the guy's family and friends at this time.

 

Think the checker I spoke to today was a bit shook up by it and understandably so. They are just guys doing a job...the rules are as few as they are are easy to comply with....certainly not worth killing someone over. It’s no wonder part of the new licence t & c are about threats etc towards staff. The perpetrator best feel the full weight of the law. It’s a sad day when CRT staff need bodycams and stab vests.