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29 minutes ago, Hudds Lad said:

that’s one of her “yes, but…” questions, more concern for the interior woodwork than the crew, especially if we end up getting one built

It's a good point - you would have thought the woodwork /interior would get damaged, but in reality very little water gets in if you have the doors closed and the slide slid right up to your chest, even if you are wearing a normal raincoat rather than a poncho as mentioned above. Also, I tend to find that most rain comes in 10 minute long showers - if it gets more persistent, or heavy we tend to tie up for a while, or stop in a bridgehole temporarily. It's very rare that we have to push on for a long time in a downpour to meet a deadline.

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Our boat has a back cabin but no stove.

When it rains, I pull the back doors closed behind me and pull the slide just far enough to enable me to use the (morse) control.

   This means that rain will get down inside a small area of the back cabin. But it's only the steps and floor, which are easily wiped dry afterwards. Mrs. Athy, meanwhile, has spread a thick plastic talelcloth over the rear of the (cross(bed, so that any splashes of rain don't get on the bedding.

  Depending on the force of the rain, a hat and a jacket (I have a leather one of each) may suffice, otherwise we don waterproofs. Some people use an umbrella but, not having three hands, I don't.

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1 minute ago, John Brightley said:

It's a good point - you would have thought the woodwork /interior would get damaged, but in reality very little water gets in if you have the doors closed and the slide slid right up to your chest, even if you are wearing a normal raincoat rather than a poncho as mentioned above.

 

Yes, the rising warm air deflects a lot of rain.  I find more drips off my elbow or runs down my coat than actually rains in.

 

 

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39 minutes ago, Hudds Lad said:

 

 

that’s one of her “yes, but…” questions, more concern for the interior woodwork than the crew, especially if we end up getting one built

That's easy. Our rear doors, and the panels just inside them, are coated with exterior quality varnish which resists water.

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1 hour ago, Alan de Enfield said:

 

I always considered making a canoe skirt to fit around the hatch-opening.

Saw one in use and it looked good but never proceeded to the next stage.

 

 

Waterproof Kayak Canoe Boat Spray Skirt Deck Adjus Sprayskirt Large  Cockpit❤B 8852075137813 | eBay

 

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Can you get really big ones for us with Semi-Trads!  :)

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1 hour ago, The Happy Nomad said:

 

Cue the howls of derision from the 'traditionalists'........

 

(not my boat or pic.)

 

 

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I've got one of these on my semi trad, and it's definitely for drying clothes, not for navigation...

(The advantage of an umbrella is it doesn't need windscreen wipers or to come down for bridge holes)

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There's a saying in sailing circles that "gentlemen don't sail to windward". Perhaps it should be b'stardised on the canal system to become "gentlemen don't cruise in the rain". This is after all supposed to be fun (which standing still in the rain whilst gripping an ice cold tiller certainly isn't).

 

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A statement I picked up, "No such thing as foul weather, just inappropriate clothing." :D

We tend to do most of our boating in Autumn, Winter and Spring. 

Our boat is a "trad" type, shut the doors behind me throttle in easy reach.

I have a vent I can open at the side of the engine housing which allows heat to permeate up wards.
( 50 odd years of dinghy sailing, Offshore and narrow boating.)

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I have a trad with an extra large hatch. It allows 1 or 2 extra people to join the steerer, yet offers good rain protection when pulled up close against the steerer's belly.

 

In very cold or wet conditions i wear Dickie's waterproof padded coveralls and Ironclad cold condition waterproof gloves. In my experience, workwear performs better and is cheaper than most "specialist" clothing.

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6 hours ago, Hudds Lad said:

  get on in the rain, is it just as simple as pulling the hatch shut and reaching under for the controls?

 

You only pull it as far shut that it touches you as you stand inside the back doors. Not like some who pull them right shut and stand on the back deck

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We have a modern trad, in the rain I get Jeff to drive  we stand on the step (as usual), close the back doors behind and slide the hatch closed a bit. We have a large golfing umbrella which means most of the time we don’t even need waterproofs. The only time it becomes problematic is if it is too windy for the brolly. Just above the step I have a Kuranda hot air blower (heat from Calorifier loop) which keeps us toasty. Our hatch is slightly wider than traditional, so there is room for 2 when it’s not raining.

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5 hours ago, Athy said:

. Some people use an umbrella but, not having three hands, I don't.

Just use a umbrella mount, large choice available. I used one of these champed to the hatch.

 

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On 08/04/2021 at 13:16, Tracy D'arth said:

Likewise but I wear a poncho that covers around the hatch, no water in the boat, warm and dry.

 

The best umbrella is a rope and mooring pin. 

 

Light the Epping range, close the doors behind, slide the hatch back & stand on the footboard steering with your legs warm & dry & alovely bubble of warm air sising up inside your poncho. If the footboard, etc gets wet, the stove will dry it out.

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On 08/04/2021 at 12:24, The Happy Nomad said:

 

Cue the howls of derision from the 'traditionalists'........

 

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Maybe so for the form of construction, but not for the concept. We inherited our first one from born-and-bred boatman Fred Dell. It is 3 squares of ply joined together with hooks & eyes for a 3-sided box, with a 4th panel as a roof. The front panel has a 'letterbox' slot to look through. The snag with that was the dogs used to lie on the roof, and on occasion they came over to peer through the slot, making vision somewhat difficult.

 

Tam.

 

(they're not often seen as photographers are not around in bad weather.  ?)

 

 

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1 hour ago, Tam & Di said:

The snag with that was the dogs used to lie on the roof, and on occasion they came over to peer through the slot,

 

 

 

Thank goodness you said "peer"; I misread it the first time.

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4 hours ago, Tam & Di said:

 

Maybe so for the form of construction, but not for the concept. We inherited our first one from born-and-bred boatman Fred Dell. It is 3 squares of ply joined together with hooks & eyes for a 3-sided box, with a 4th panel as a roof. The front panel has a 'letterbox' slot to look through. The snag with that was the dogs used to lie on the roof, and on occasion they came over to peer through the slot, making vision somewhat difficult.

 

Tam.

 

(they're not often seen as photographers are not around in bad weather.  ?)

 

 

Rainshed.jpg

 

Second photo Jim and Sarah Anne Peasland on Malta & Grace.

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