jaime66 Posted March 11, 2021 Report Share Posted March 11, 2021 Looking to run in feed for tunnel light ,so can you run 12v through gas locker to feed tunnel light ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan de Enfield Posted March 11, 2021 Report Share Posted March 11, 2021 11 minutes ago, jaime66 said: Looking to run in feed for tunnel light ,so can you run 12v through gas locker to feed tunnel light ? I don't think so. Ask the BSS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty40s Posted March 11, 2021 Report Share Posted March 11, 2021 2 minutes ago, Alan de Enfield said: I don't think so. Ask the BSS. Theres thousands of boats going to fail then.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBiscuits Posted March 11, 2021 Report Share Posted March 11, 2021 I don't see why not, but to avoid any potential issues with a BSS bod who likes making rules up I'd run it higher than the top of the gas bottle and in plastic conduit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan de Enfield Posted March 11, 2021 Report Share Posted March 11, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, TheBiscuits said: I don't see why not, but to avoid any potential issues with a BSS bod who likes making rules up I'd run it higher than the top of the gas bottle and in plastic conduit. I was going to suggest that to avoid compromising the cabinet. Up to the level of the top of the cylinder valves, or other high‐pressure components where these are higher, the bottom,sides, and seams of every cylinder lockermust be free of any: • holes, e.g. caused by drilling, rust or cutting; or , • cracks, splits or de‐laminations; or, • missing or damaged welds at seams; or, • other signs of damage or deterioration… Electrical cables must be installed clear of LPG and fuel supply lines unless they are in a conduit made of non‐conducting material. Edited March 11, 2021 by Alan de Enfield Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaime66 Posted March 11, 2021 Author Report Share Posted March 11, 2021 Cheers thats great news !!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEngo Posted March 11, 2021 Report Share Posted March 11, 2021 3 hours ago, Alan de Enfield said: I was going to suggest that to avoid compromising the cabinet. Up to the level of the top of the cylinder valves, or other high‐pressure components where these are higher, the bottom,sides, and seams of every cylinder lockermust be free of any: • holes, e.g. caused by drilling, rust or cutting; or , • cracks, splits or de‐laminations; or, • missing or damaged welds at seams; or, • other signs of damage or deterioration… Electrical cables must be installed clear of LPG and fuel supply lines unless they are in a conduit made of non‐conducting material. No gas locker with a drain hole at the base can comply with this requirement. N Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machpoint005 Posted March 11, 2021 Report Share Posted March 11, 2021 4 minutes ago, BEngo said: No gas locker with a drain hole at the base can comply with this requirement. N The only difficulty is the "eg" - I think it is supposed to clarify that they mean post-construction holes, so intentional drain holes are not included. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEngo Posted March 13, 2021 Report Share Posted March 13, 2021 I know what is meant, but that is not what has been asked for. It clearly demonstrates the BSS office's lack of competence at requirements drafting. Even with the e.g removed it requires that there be no holes below the top of the cylinder valves etc. N Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBiscuits Posted March 13, 2021 Report Share Posted March 13, 2021 On 11/03/2021 at 17:03, BEngo said: No gas locker with a drain hole at the base can comply with this requirement. Alan has only quoted part of it, not the whole thing. The actual requirement makes more sense. 7.2.1 Is the cylinder locker, up to the level of the top of the cylinder valves or other high‐ pressure components, free of any path for leaked LPG to enter the interior of the vessel? R Determine the level of the top of the cylinder valves, or other high‐pressure components where these are located higher. Check the height of the LPG cylinder locker sides. Determine which parts of the locker structure if holed or damaged could create a path for LPG leaked to enter the interior of the vessel. Visually check the locker construction material and the condition of all cylinder locker bottoms,sides and seams. The sides of every cylinder locker must extend at least up to the level of the top of the cylinder valves, or other high‐pressure components where these are higher. Up to the level of the top of the cylinder valves, or other high‐pressure components where these are higher, the bottom,sides, and seams of every cylinder locker must be free of any: • holes, e.g. caused by drilling, rust or cutting; or , • cracks, splits or de‐laminations; or, • missing or damaged welds at seams; or, • other signs of damage or deterioration… …. that can be determined by visual examination to penetrate the locker to the interior of the vessel. Cylinder locker bottoms,sides and seams covered by this check must not rely upon glue or sealant to prevent any leaked LPG from entering the interior of the vessel. 22 minutes ago, BEngo said: I know what is meant, but that is not what has been asked for. It clearly demonstrates the BSS office's lack of competence at requirements drafting. Even with the e.g removed it requires that there be no holes below the top of the cylinder valves etc. See above. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sea Dog Posted March 13, 2021 Report Share Posted March 13, 2021 40 minutes ago, TheBiscuits said: hole thing. The actual requirement makes more sense. 7.2.1 Is the cylinder locker, up to the level of the top of the cylinder valves or other high‐ pressure components, free of any path for leaked LPG to enter the interior of the vessel? Indeed - my gas locker has a big hole in one side, running from the top to the very bottom of the locker. Its acceptable under the BSS as it doesn't penetrate the inside of the vessel. The thoughtful boat builder put doors on it to match the side doors on the starboard side: I thank him every time I change a bottle! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBiscuits Posted March 13, 2021 Report Share Posted March 13, 2021 7 minutes ago, Sea Dog said: hole thing. I see what you did there - very good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sea Dog Posted March 13, 2021 Report Share Posted March 13, 2021 3 minutes ago, TheBiscuits said: I see what you did there - very good! You can't teach that sort of thing you know... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frangar Posted March 13, 2021 Report Share Posted March 13, 2021 I ran my cables to horn & headlight using gas pipe and fittings as a conduit including using bulkhead fittings for the entry/exit. Passed BSS all ok as the cables are in a gas tight conduit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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