Frosted glass for internal doors

[narrowboatmike]

Hi, I'm fitting out my boat and wish to semi glaze the internal doors with frosted glass.

Does the glass need to be safety glass and does anyone have any experience at purchasing

this type of glass, made to measure as a friend is making the doors. Also I notice frosted perspex

is available online. Does anyone have these on their boat and what's the quality difference between them,

 thanks, Mike

 

 

[Kendorr]

I used frosted glass in my internal door, it has to be toughened safety glass for the inside. Has to be specially cut to size, so make sure your measurements are accurate.

 

Kevin

[narrowboatmike]

Great, thanks Kevin.

 

[TheBiscuits]

1 minute ago, narrowboatmike said:

Does the glass need to be safety glass and does anyone have any experience at purchasing

this type of glass, made to measure as a friend is making the doors.

 

Yes, you need safety glass in any door, even more so on a boat than in a house.  Most houses don't rock ...

 

The easiest way to get the glass size correct is to take the assembled doors to your local glass merchant and get them to measure up for the glass if it's an oddly shaped piece.

[narrowboatmike]

Sounds like a good idea taking the door, no blame game if sizes are incorrect, thanks  TheBiscuits.

[ditchcrawler]

I supplied hardboard templates to the local double glazing company for mine, they were trapezium shaped to go at the end of the shower against the hull side 

[IanD]

Not all "local glass merchants" can supply toughened safety glass "cut-to-size", because it has to be cut and then heat treated to toughen it. Plenty of specialist firms can do this, but it's not exactly cheap...

 

https://www.theglasswarehouse.co.uk/glass-product/toughened-laminated-glass/

[Jen-in-Wellies]

Frosted perspex would be a lot lighter than toughened, or laminated, or toughened+laminated glass. I'd seriously consider it. Suspect it would be cheaper too.

Jen

[TheBiscuits]

13 minutes ago, IanD said:

Not all "local glass merchants" can supply toughened safety glass "cut-to-size", because it has to be cut and then heat treated to toughen it. Plenty of specialist firms can do this, but it's not exactly cheap...

 

https://www.theglasswarehouse.co.uk/glass-product/toughened-laminated-glass/

 

All the ones I have used can supply it, but some of them have to send the glass elsewhere to be toughened if they don't have the equipment.  

 

The last time I needed some it was for a small top hopper, double glazed.  The glass merchant apologised for there being a minimum charge for toughened double glazing for such a small unit, then charged me £15 for the whole thing!

[ditchcrawler]

58 minutes ago, TheBiscuits said:

 

All the ones I have used can supply it, but some of them have to send the glass elsewhere to be toughened if they don't have the equipment.  

 

The last time I needed some it was for a small top hopper, double glazed.  The glass merchant apologised for there being a minimum charge for toughened double glazing for such a small unit, then charged me £15 for the whole thing!

I think I had a similar comment but it was a long time ago, I even got a spare panel of glass 

[IanD]

57 minutes ago, TheBiscuits said:

 

All the ones I have used can supply it, but some of them have to send the glass elsewhere to be toughened if they don't have the equipment.  

 

The last time I needed some it was for a small top hopper, double glazed.  The glass merchant apologised for there being a minimum charge for toughened double glazing for such a small unit, then charged me £15 for the whole thing!

Useful to know, maybe things have changed in recent years with tightened up elf'n'safety regs (I'm not saying this is a bad thing!). Certainly in the past it wasn't so easy to find, or cheap, presumably because it was much less common.

[Jen-in-Wellies]

55 minutes ago, IanD said:

Useful to know, maybe things have changed in recent years with tightened up elf'n'safety regs (I'm not saying this is a bad thing!). Certainly in the past it wasn't so easy to find, or cheap, presumably because it was much less common.

It has made the childhood activity of smashing windows much harder for the current generation! ?

[Tracy D'arth]

The toughening of small pieces like ports is difficult as they fall through the rollers of the kiln.  Anything smaller than 300mm may be a problem. I would use acrylic or polycarbonate, frosting it by sand blasting.

[Mad Harold]

2 hours ago, Jen-in-Wellies said:

Frosted perspex would be a lot lighter than toughened, or laminated, or toughened+laminated glass. I'd seriously consider it. Suspect it would be cheaper too.

Jen

I agree,it's also quite easy to cut to size with a cutting disc. (not a saw,it will crack)

A bit dearer is Lexan or Macrolon polycarbonate,this is completely unbreakable.

[GUMPY]

44 minutes ago, Jen-in-Wellies said:

It has made the childhood activity of smashing windows much harder for the current generation! ?

Automatic centre punch works wonders on toughened glass, far easier to break than normal glass?

Laminated on the other hand..........

[ditchcrawler]

34 minutes ago, Mad Harold said:

 

A bit dearer is Lexan or Macrolon polycarbonate,this is completely unbreakable.

That would be my choice after glass

[Hudds Lad]

if you can't get frosted of whatever material you use, Plastikote do a frosting spray that we've used for privacy on shed windows with great success in the past, both glass and plastic. its available from many places like the main DIY outlets and even The Range. about £6-8 if memory serves.

[ditchcrawler]

1 minute ago, Hudds Lad said:

if you can't get frosted of whatever material you use, Plastikote do a frosting spray that we've used for privacy on shed windows with great success in the past, both glass and plastic. its available from many places like the main DIY outlets and even The Range. about £6-8 if memory serves.

Or even sticky back plastic, not sure if it works on plastic https://www.wilko.com/en-uk/d-c-fix-charis-static-cling-self-adhesive-film-45c-m-x-15m/p/0463672

[system 4-50]

I need some doors but glass would not be simple as I'd need some ventilation through it. 

[GUMPY]

2 minutes ago, system 4-50 said:

I need some doors but glass would not be simple as I'd need some ventilation through it. 

Louvered glass ?

[ditchcrawler]

1 hour ago, Loddon said:

Louvered glass ?

Just broken

[GUMPY]

6 minutes ago, ditchcrawler said:

Just broken

 

[blackrose]

I've no idea if the frosted glass in my internal doors is safety glass. I would have thought so as the doors were from B&Q and they sell to families with kids. But I bought them 16 years ago so who knows?

 

 

[canals are us?]

Any safety stamp in any corner? Anything like BS 6206. Tempered/toughened. My hopper window in my bathroom shattered one night in the Marina. Nothing hit it, just broke. Boat 21 years old. I went to local glazing/ double glazed windows supplier and glass was £7 and to have it toughened £30. Was shocked for a 125mm x 450mm piece. Didn't bother having it toughened! Going to make a leaded stained glass window for it. 

 

James?

[sueb]

We made life simpler by only having one internal door - to the bathroom, so we didn't need any glass