JLees Posted February 24, 2021 Report Posted February 24, 2021 Has anyone got a notion of how I might get hold of an operating manual for the JD3? Thanks:)
Alan de Enfield Posted February 24, 2021 Report Posted February 24, 2021 31 minutes ago, JLees said: Has anyone got a notion of how I might get hold of an operating manual for the JD3? Thanks:) It is a John Deere 3029DF150 engine that Beta sell as the JD3. I understand that Beta never did their own manual for that engine Here is the manual (346 pages) for the base JD engine - hopefully it will help you. JOHN DEERE WORKSHOP MANUAL FOR ENGINE 3029 by Power Generation - issuu
Tonka Posted February 25, 2021 Report Posted February 25, 2021 (edited) @dmr is your man, I am sure he will help you. Search for him on this forum Edited February 25, 2021 by Tonka link in dmr
dmr Posted February 25, 2021 Report Posted February 25, 2021 1 minute ago, Tonka said: DMR is your man, I am sure he will help you. Search for him on this forum Here I am! Beta did a little owners manual, it covers stuff like installation, oil changes and tappet adjustment. They might be able to sell you one. If you have a specific question then I could do a photo of the relevant page.. As Alan says, get the John Deere 3029 manual for more details/engine rebuild stuff, its available for free download though probably not officially. Note there is more than one version which can be a bit confusing. ...............Dave
JLees Posted February 25, 2021 Author Report Posted February 25, 2021 11 hours ago, Alan de Enfield said: It is a John Deere 3029DF150 engine that Beta sell as the JD3. I understand that Beta never did their own manual for that engine Here is the manual (346 pages) for the base JD engine - hopefully it will help you. JOHN DEERE WORKSHOP MANUAL FOR ENGINE 3029 by Power Generation - issuu Thanks Alan! I did wonder whether that might be the case 45 minutes ago, dmr said: Here I am! Beta did a little owners manual, it covers stuff like installation, oil changes and tappet adjustment. They might be able to sell you one. If you have a specific question then I could do a photo of the relevant page.. As Alan says, get the John Deere 3029 manual for more details/engine rebuild stuff, its available for free download though probably not officially. Note there is more than one version which can be a bit confusing. ...............Dave Thanks Dave, I’ll rattle Beta’s cage - see if I can get something out of them:) But failing that might indeed get back to you for a photo or two . Cheers
dmr Posted February 25, 2021 Report Posted February 25, 2021 11 hours ago, Alan de Enfield said: It is a John Deere 3029DF150 engine that Beta sell as the JD3. I understand that Beta never did their own manual for that engine Here is the manual (346 pages) for the base JD engine - hopefully it will help you. JOHN DEERE WORKSHOP MANUAL FOR ENGINE 3029 by Power Generation - issuu Oooh I can feel a pedant moment coming on. Its the DF120 that Beta use, which in non emissions certified. For various reasons we actually have the 150 (emission certified) which has a slightly more complicated injection pump and different injectors. However because the JD3 runs slower than John Deere ever intended I doubt that the emission things do very much. It might run just a little nicer but its hard to tell. .................Dave
Tracy D'arth Posted February 25, 2021 Report Posted February 25, 2021 There is a workshop manual at https://issuu.com/emirpjanic/docs/john_deere_engine_wm_mar06_rev_0 But you cannot download it, just read it.
Alan de Enfield Posted February 25, 2021 Report Posted February 25, 2021 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Tracy D'arth said: There is a workshop manual at https://issuu.com/emirpjanic/docs/john_deere_engine_wm_mar06_rev_0 But you cannot download it, just read it. Maybe you should take folk off ignore, that link is the same as I posted yesterday. Edited February 25, 2021 by Alan de Enfield
dmr Posted February 25, 2021 Report Posted February 25, 2021 I have an older version of this manual (01 rather than 06) but its a pdf so if the op wants it then PM me an email address and I can send a copy. ..............Dave
JLees Posted February 28, 2021 Author Report Posted February 28, 2021 Found copy of the operating manual as PDF if anyone needs it please message. In meantime I’ll try and find way of posting it here. Thanks fr help everyone! 1
BEngo Posted February 28, 2021 Report Posted February 28, 2021 10 minutes ago, JLees said: Found copy of the operating manual as PDF if anyone needs it please message. In meantime I’ll try and find way of posting it here. Thanks fr help everyone! You should just be able to attach it to a post. The forum, post the last upgrade, is now accepting pdf files as attachments. Not larger than 1013.17 MB though. N
JLees Posted March 1, 2021 Author Report Posted March 1, 2021 Thanks Bengo. Here's what I've found..... apart fro the John Deere manuals which are too big JD3 TUG Rev May2016 221-10476.pdf 221-10915 JD3 TUG QUICK REFERANCE ILLUSTRATED PARTS LIST.pdf
1stArthur Posted October 13, 2023 Report Posted October 13, 2023 On 25/02/2021 at 11:24, dmr said: Oooh I can feel a pedant moment coming on. Its the DF120 that Beta use, which in non emissions certified. For various reasons we actually have the 150 (emission certified) which has a slightly more complicated injection pump and different injectors. However because the JD3 runs slower than John Deere ever intended I doubt that the emission things do very much. It might run just a little nicer but its hard to tell. .................Dave Changing the subject slightly has anyone changed the throttle cable on a jd3 ? mice just bought a boat with a jd3 and the throttle connection looks well buried behind the top of the fuel pump. And tips on how to go about this would be appreciated. Thanks Arthur.
dmr Posted October 13, 2023 Report Posted October 13, 2023 Can you send a picture, it sounds like a non standard installation. The throttle cable end fixes to a lever on the injection pump and it should have good easy access, the outer fixes to a bracket that also hold the gearbox oil cooler, and again full and easy access. I think ours is one of the very first JD3's but I doubt if things have changed much (or maybe they have). 1
Alan de Enfield Posted October 13, 2023 Report Posted October 13, 2023 1 hour ago, 1stArthur said: mice just bought a boat with a jd3 and the throttle connection looks well buried behind the top of the fuel pump. 1
1stArthur Posted October 14, 2023 Report Posted October 14, 2023 Very good ha ha ha as you probably know it should have read I’ve just bought a boat. but thanks for you help .
Alan de Enfield Posted October 14, 2023 Report Posted October 14, 2023 2 hours ago, 1stArthur said: Very good ha ha ha as you probably know it should have read I’ve just bought a boat. but thanks for you help . I really had no idea, the nearest I could figure was 'Niece' has bought a boat. How did you get from I've to mice ?
1stArthur Posted October 15, 2023 Report Posted October 15, 2023 On 13/10/2023 at 16:27, dmr said: Can you send a picture, it sounds like a non standard installation. The throttle cable end fixes to a lever on the injection pump and it should have good easy access, the outer fixes to a bracket that also hold the gearbox oil cooler, and again full and easy access. I think ours is one of the very first JD3's but I doubt if things have changed much (or maybe they have). The outside cable is the stop the throttle is in behind.
dmr Posted October 15, 2023 Report Posted October 15, 2023 This is not a JD3 ( Imight regret that statement 😀) Could it be a BD3???
1stArthur Posted October 15, 2023 Report Posted October 15, 2023 I’m not sure it’s a beta tug engine and as far as I know it’s a jd3 , I don’t know that info could be wrong but the throttle cable looks a right bbb to do . I don’t need the change it as of yet but I don’t fancy stripping part of the engine to get at it .
1stArthur Posted October 15, 2023 Report Posted October 15, 2023 What picture would identify it ? It has a beta no on it Beta 20010001.that’s on the rocker cover .
Tonka Posted October 15, 2023 Report Posted October 15, 2023 Find the full engine number. If it has Crk3 in the number then it is a BD3. Or can you see any Ford symbols on the castings. Mine has and its a Bd3. What age is it ? I have Beta manuals for the BD3 and parts manual for Crk3 ( the lister version) of the Ford engine
1stArthur Posted October 15, 2023 Report Posted October 15, 2023 Thank you I will have a look for that .
ditchcrawler Posted October 15, 2023 Report Posted October 15, 2023 5 hours ago, dmr said: This is not a JD3 ( Imight regret that statement 😀) Could it be a BD3??? That looks very much like mine 4 hours ago, 1stArthur said: I’m not sure it’s a beta tug engine and as far as I know it’s a jd3 , I don’t know that info could be wrong but the throttle cable looks a right bbb to do . I don’t need the change it as of yet but I don’t fancy stripping part of the engine to get at it . Mine is fiddely, behind the fuel filter and sedimentor 28 minutes ago, ditchcrawler said: That looks very much like mine Mine is fiddely, behind the fuel filter and sedimentor
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