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Hi all, I thought I would post this to see if anyone out their knows of any good boats which may fit my criteria,. My total budget is 42K. It is broken down as follows 36K boat, 5k unexpected costs, repairs etc, necessary modifications to make it more suitable for me. Also allowed 1k for fully survey/haul out. I am assuming I have got my sums right, please let me know if this sounds realistic. The use would be for a solo liveabroad and probably winter moorings Dec-Feb. I would like plenty of light especially in saloon/galley area, not fussed so much in bed/bath room. I would prefer as open a layout as possible especially in saloon/gallery area.  Any questions do not hesitate to ask! thanks in advance.

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Add (or should that be subtract?) about £1,000 for your annual licence and a couple of hundred for insurance.

Have a look at the Apollo Duck Narrowboats web site where you'll find large numbers of narrowboats in all styles and at a wide range of prices.

You should find something very presentable within your budget.

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Very sensible approach, you should think about boats advertised at £42K.

When you make your offer, you might need to turn the screw, an approach which won't work with the more affluent vendor.

If the vendor needs to pay out £3K in marina fees, you maybe can get £2K off his asking price.

If vendor needs to pay £200 to get it thru the imminant BSC, ditto 

If vendor needs the cash to buy a house, etc etc.

You see where I am coming from.... 

 

 

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Thanks for that view regarding negiotation with broker very useful. I am attaching a link for a boat that I quiet like look of only thing is I think it needs some work on the electrical side to make it work for liveabroad. It does not have an inverter or solar and I am not sure whether it has shoreline either. From my understanding a simple shore line socket is not difficult/ expensive to set up when on winter mooring in a marina. I am wonder whether my budget will allow for all this updates? also not sure whether it has a cratch board/cover also something I would need to allow for. Anyway, the boat is a www.calcutt.com/A4 boatdetails Merlin. pdf

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I just read the advert and watched the video. It looks clean and well set up. Bothe the shell builder and the fitter-outer are well-known companies, and the boat is a sensible size.

   It's perhaps worth mentioning that it has a B.M.C. engine; the sellers or brokers, Calcutt, are the waterways' specialists in this make of engine, so if you do go ahead it might be worth your asking their opinion of it.

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If Calcutt confirm that the B.M.C engine in their opinion is ok and I get a positive response in regards to a new BSC included in price as well as it has been on for 3 months.  Is the asking price realistic in your opinion for what it has to offer?

 

Also the little I know about B.MC  I think they are old engines and from opinions on this forum, their are still lots of them about, so spares/parts should be ok.

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2 minutes ago, Leap of faith said:

If Calcutt confirm that the B.M.C engine in their opinion is ok and I get a positive response in regards to a new BSC included in price as well as it has been on for 3 months.  Is the asking price realistic in your opinion for what it has to offer?

 

Also the little I know about B.MC  I think they are old engines and from opinions on this forum, their are still lots of them about, so spares/parts should be ok.

B.M.C. later became British Leyland; I think that engines made by BL are still referred to generically as BMCs. They typically powered light vans and, in their larger 2.2 variant, they were the classic London taxi engine. When production ceased in Britain, they were still made in Turkey, whence Calcutt imported them and installed them in their own-brand narrowboats until a few years ago. Calcutt still recondition them and presumably carry all the necessary spare parts.

   I'd guess that it's probably the original 1997 engine. Someone at Calcutt should be able to tell you.

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Thanks for that.  Just wondering would you have an estimated figure in mind for the cost of solar and very basic  230v e.g. shore line for winter mooring hook up.  Based upon some very basic research I have done  I am thinking I may need around 400 watts of solar which may get me through spring-autumn cruising.

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4 minutes ago, Leap of faith said:

I am thinking I may need around 400 watts of solar which may get me through spring-autumn cruising.

It really is 'how long is a piece of string', you cannot have 'too much' solar, but you can certainly 'have insufficient',

 

You need to generate enough 'leccy to replace about 120% of what you have used.

 

If you only use 50Ah per day then you need to generate 60Ah

If you use 100Ah per day then you need to generate 120Ah

If you use 200Ah per day than you need to generate 240Ah

 

The 'average' (if there is such a thing) NB APPEARS to be in the order of 100Ah - 120Ah,

If you are planning on hair dryer, electric toaster, washing machine, microwave than look much nearer (or even more ) than 200Ah per day.

 

If you are not hooked-up to the shore mains supply you basically have 3 ways to generate electricity

1) Run the engine - if you are cruising 4 or 5 hours per day thay will probably be sufficient.

2) Solar panels, They are not 100% efficient add in clouds, trees, rain etc etc I work on 50% for 8 hours on July-August days. (thats is roughly 32Ah per day per100 watts of solar panels)

You 400w would be sufficient for a 'normal user' for a couple or three months of the year.

3) Generator - use to power a battery charger.

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