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Are LED Tunnel Lights Really Necessary

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#276
5 minutes ago, MtB said:

 

Ummm yes it does. 

 

When I have the 'self-dipping' function turned ON it sometimes seems to fail to dip so I use the stalk to dip. Except that the instant I pull it to dip, the self-dip function operates and my stalk-pull puts them back on main beam, FCUKing thing! 

 

This happens on both the SQ5 and the Model 3 so on both I now keep the main/dip function on "manual". 

 

That's not how mine works, you can always over-ride the auto function.

 

Blaming something generic because of a bad realisation in some cars (see LED headlights thread) makes no sense... 😉

#277
8 minutes ago, IanD said:

That's not how mine works, you can always over-ride the auto function.

 

Isn't that what I said I do in my last para?

 

 

#278
8 hours ago, MtB said:

 

Isn't that what I said I do in my last para?

 

 

No, you said you turned the auto dip function off.

 

On mine I leave it on, but the stalk still works properly if you want to switch between dip and full beam, it doesn't do what you said yours does.

Edited by IanD

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#279

It’s not just boaters causing trouble with overbright LED lights, met a cyclist with a flashing LED that seemed to point straight ahead and at us.
 

Suppose with it flashing it was only on half the time but the burnt retina seemed to continue. Can’t think why he didn’t angle the light down so he could see the towpath? 

#280
1 hour ago, Stroudwater1 said:

It’s not just boaters causing trouble with overbright LED lights, met a cyclist with a flashing LED that seemed to point straight ahead and at us.
 

Suppose with it flashing it was only on half the time but the burnt retina seemed to continue. Can’t think why he didn’t angle the light down so he could see the towpath? 

Its when you meet the joggers on a corner and they and they have head torches on just 6 foot from your face.

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#281

A dimmer switch would potentially solve / lessen this issue ?

My very first tunnel experience yesterday resulted in a damage to my 6000 pound canopy 😭I steered into the wall at the MOUTH of the tunnel so I can't even blame anyone else...well if my partner had moved to the front of the boat quicker she could have prevented it... 🤔 bizarrely that observation / comment did NOT go down well...I then suggested that we copy the great sailing ships of the past and have her strapped to the front of our boat...I now have totally unrelated concussion...😳

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#282

Met two boats in Wast Hill tunnel recently, both with blindingly bright LED tunnel lamps.  One had a nice old fashion tunnel lamp giving a pleasing yellow glow with a whacking big LED array next to it with super bright white LEDs.  The second boat had two LED lamps on the bows and to add to the confusion of how many boats were approaching another super bright LED on the cabin top at the rear.  When I mentioned to the steerer I couldn't see anything he said he could see fine.

 

I think it is time tunnel lamps were assessed in the BSS and super bright LED lamps banned.

#283

Three mirrors mounted in the corner of a box would make an effective retro-reflector that would direct the beam straight back to its source with no need to aim it. 

#284
16 minutes ago, Rob-M said:

Met two boats in Wast Hill tunnel recently, both with blindingly bright LED tunnel lamps.  One had a nice old fashion tunnel lamp giving a pleasing yellow glow with a whacking big LED array next to it with super bright white LEDs.  The second boat had two LED lamps on the bows and to add to the confusion of how many boats were approaching another super bright LED on the cabin top at the rear.  When I mentioned to the steerer I couldn't see anything he said he could see fine.

 

I think it is time tunnel lamps were assessed in the BSS and super bright LED lamps banned.

What kind of puzzles me with these users of the super-bright LED's is what can they actually see ahead of their boat in a tunnel? Unless they have some steering arrangement from the front of their boat, floodlighting the canal ahead isn't going to achieve much since the bulk of the boat ahead of you blocks your view of what is immediately in front of the boat. My own non-LED light is aimed as much towards the roof of the tunnel as the bracket allows and if I could I'd simply aim it directly at the tunnel roof. If the light makes a point marker on the tunnel roof it tells me where the bow is relative to the tunnel sides and my aim (unless there is a boat coming the other way) is to position the boat in the centre of the channel throughout the tunnel passage. I don't need to see ahead (unless approaching the kink in Braunston Tunnel;)), all I need to know is whether I'm central or not.

Edited by Wanderer Vagabond

#285

I've just come thru a tunnel, two boats came in at the other end, no horn and no lights, do they imagine I can see them (bright sunlight) One should have had a qualified skipper, and im sure the other had been given instructions, at some time.

Having indicated that the first  one should stop as I was very obviously blocking his path (I was trying reverse, to get out of the way)  The first boat made an involuntarily turn to the right,  broadsiding  a  moored boat! Followed by the second boat pretty much running in to the stern of the moored boat, at which point the owner appeared.

I  kept a low profile ;)

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#286
2 hours ago, LadyG said:

I've just come thru a tunnel, two boats came in at the other end, no horn and no lights, do they imagine I can see them (bright sunlight) One should have had a qualified skipper, and im sure the other had been given instructions, at some time.

Having indicated that the first  one should stop as I was very obviously blocking his path (I was trying reverse, to get out of the way)  The first boat made an involuntarily turn to the right,  broadsiding  a  moored boat! Followed by the second boat pretty much running in to the stern of the moored boat, at which point the owner appeared.

I  kept a low profile ;)

 

where is this tunnel that is big enough inside to have boats turning & other boats moored ?

#287
12 minutes ago, Alan de Enfield said:

where is this tunnel that is big enough inside to have boats turning & other boats moored ?

There was a basin inside the Dudley tunnels wide enough to moor several boats abreast, although I think that section has been infilled now.

 

Butterley Tunnel also has an underground loading wharf.

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