WotEver Posted October 6, 2020 Report Share Posted October 6, 2020 3 hours ago, Paul Gwilliams said: remember as Oscar Wilde is quoted as saying “I may not agree with you, but I will defend to the death your right to make an ass of yourself.” Actually, that quote is generally attributed to Voltaire. He never actually said it though; it was invented by his biographer, Evelyn Beatrice Hall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doratheexplorer Posted October 7, 2020 Report Share Posted October 7, 2020 13 hours ago, Alan de Enfield said: A milk bottle (wide-necked) retained by the helm is quite useful, (particularly on a Trad stern, you can even wave to folks with impunity 'as you go') And for the lady boater? https://www.biovea.net/uk/product/detail/6740/female-urination-device-lavender/?TI=GGLUKR&C=N&wiz_medium=shopping&wiz_source=google&wiz_campaign=United Kingdom Shopping&gclid=CjwKCAjwq_D7BRADEiwAVMDdHjj7KGp9KZHG3CJlQwezDR5dZx_1T7iL8cU5YhV_36h7ARU0yTnK_xoCMHsQAvD_BwE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Mack Posted October 7, 2020 Report Share Posted October 7, 2020 9 hours ago, WotEver said: Actually, that quote is generally attributed to Voltaire. He never actually said it though; it was invented by his biographer, Evelyn Beatrice Hall. I don't think so! The quote is Oscar Wilde's take on an earlier saying, which is indeed attributed to Voltaire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machpoint005 Posted October 7, 2020 Report Share Posted October 7, 2020 5 minutes ago, David Mack said: I don't think so! The quote is Oscar Wilde's take on an earlier saying, which is indeed attributed to Voltaire. 9 hours ago, WotEver said: Actually, that quote is generally attributed to Voltaire. He never actually said it though; it was invented by his biographer, Evelyn Beatrice Hall. An ironic argument, given the thread title? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotEver Posted October 7, 2020 Report Share Posted October 7, 2020 1 hour ago, David Mack said: I don't think so! The quote is Oscar Wilde's take on an earlier saying, which is indeed attributed to Voltaire. Ahh, so plagiarism then... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dyertribe Posted October 7, 2020 Report Share Posted October 7, 2020 On 06/10/2020 at 11:48, Alan de Enfield said: It said the word that has resulted in several members being banned. (slang for the female reproductive organ) Wot??? Someone was banned for typing fanny???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dyertribe Posted October 7, 2020 Report Share Posted October 7, 2020 21 hours ago, Athy said: Trust Waitrose to get the agreement right: pure class, unlike the supermarket who sold "Petit Pois" as if you got only one. Phillaeus Fogg made them too 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
restlessnomad Posted October 7, 2020 Report Share Posted October 7, 2020 27 minutes ago, Dyertribe said: Wot??? Someone was banned for typing fanny???? not sure about banning.. the original post had t**t which is milder than c**t (unless you are aussie) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machpoint005 Posted October 7, 2020 Report Share Posted October 7, 2020 14 hours ago, Athy said: But you wouldn't get much purée out of one pea. That's nouvelle cuisine for you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewbacka Posted October 7, 2020 Report Share Posted October 7, 2020 4 hours ago, Dyertribe said: Wot??? Someone was banned for typing fanny???? Not if it was an American Fanny, as in fanny pack, aka bum bag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philip Posted October 7, 2020 Report Share Posted October 7, 2020 There is certainly an element of snobbery and one-upmanship and has been for ages, albeit in the minority. Been on hire boats and had passing private boaters turn their noses up or make comments implying we didn't know what we were doing etc. The very occasional boater pulling their nose up at my cruiser or sneering reference to "my plastic boat". I've no doubt a similar thing went on with Springers when there were more of them around. I don't understand why things like Cruisers, Sea Otters, Aintree Beetles and Springers etc get labelled by some as 'a starter boat'...what makes them 'a starter boat'? Why should the ultimate destination be something big? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrsM Posted October 7, 2020 Report Share Posted October 7, 2020 4 hours ago, restlessnomad said: not sure about banning.. the original post had t**t which is milder than c**t (unless you are aussie) And that (the latter, I don't mind the former at all) is the one word I do find offensive because it is often used aggressively imo. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Marshall Posted October 7, 2020 Report Share Posted October 7, 2020 1 hour ago, Philip said: There is certainly an element of snobbery and one-upmanship and has been for ages, albeit in the minority. Been on hire boats and had passing private boaters turn their noses up or make comments implying we didn't know what we were doing etc. The very occasional boater pulling their nose up at my cruiser or sneering reference to "my plastic boat". I've no doubt a similar thing went on with Springers when there were more of them around. I don't understand why things like Cruisers, Sea Otters, Aintree Beetles and Springers etc get labelled by some as 'a starter boat'...what makes them 'a starter boat'? Why should the ultimate destination be something big? Mine's 40 foot, both a starter and finisher as far as narrowboats go. My next one will be a cruiser. It's a bit like posh car drivers, I think. They still only get from A to B, and get stuck in the same traffic as me. Boating is a great thing, and all that matters is that the water stays outside where it belongs. But I agree any snobbery is a minority pastime, though a bit more prevalent than a while back, but then there are more boats about, too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan de Enfield Posted October 7, 2020 Report Share Posted October 7, 2020 2 hours ago, Philip said: I don't understand why things like Cruisers, Sea Otters, Aintree Beetles and Springers etc get labelled by some as 'a starter boat'...what makes them 'a starter boat'? Why should the ultimate destination be something big? If by 'cruisers' you mean GRP then they cost from (say) £1000 to £5.7 million (or more) I was recently looking at the new 80 footer from Princess Yachts with a 'label' of 'STARTING' from £4m However you must admit that the majority of GRP boats on the canals are towards the bottom end of the price range, and hence the term 'starter boats' folks with little disposable income who want a steel NB and find they cannot afford it will end up with either a Springer or a GRP cruiser. For some, their 'starter boat' will last them for many years, works well for them and they have no reason or inclination to 'trade up' - why should they, if they are happy with what they have, stick with it. I have two GRP boats and do not feel inadequate (or that they are starter boats) when compared to any canal boat, fat, narrow, steel, wood or GRP. It doesn't look like a 40+ MPH, 54 tonne, 80 foot, £4m+ boat does it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athy Posted October 8, 2020 Report Share Posted October 8, 2020 13 hours ago, Alan de Enfield said: It doesn't look like a 40+ MPH, 54 tonne, 80 foot, £4m+ boat does it It does look a bit confused though, wondering why its speed and length have been expressed in British measures but its weight in metric. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyboy Posted October 8, 2020 Report Share Posted October 8, 2020 6 minutes ago, Athy said: It does look a bit confused though, wondering why its speed and length have been expressed in British measures but its weight in metric. 40 MPH sounds a lot better than 35 Knots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hudds Lad Posted October 8, 2020 Report Share Posted October 8, 2020 13 hours ago, Alan de Enfield said: ... It doesn't look like a 40+ MPH, 54 tonne, 80 foot, £4m+ boat does it i'm not sure Alan, but i'm willing to let you buy me one for extensive testing so i can give you a definitive answer. purely for academic purposes of course 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athy Posted October 8, 2020 Report Share Posted October 8, 2020 20 minutes ago, Flyboy said: 40 MPH sounds a lot better than 35 Knots. Perhaps so, but I'm not convinced that knots are metric either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyboy Posted October 8, 2020 Report Share Posted October 8, 2020 6 minutes ago, Athy said: Perhaps so, but I'm not convinced that knots are metric either. Knots are not metric, they're nautical miles per hour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jen-in-Wellies Posted October 8, 2020 Report Share Posted October 8, 2020 (edited) 48 minutes ago, Athy said: It does look a bit confused though, wondering why its speed and length have been expressed in British measures but its weight in metric. It is a bit weird, especially since a metric tonne and imperial ton are as close to being the same mass as to make no difference in most circumstances. Especially in a 40 ton/tonne gin palace where the difference between the two will only be couple of G&T's in weight. Edited October 8, 2020 by Jen-in-Wellies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
restlessnomad Posted October 8, 2020 Report Share Posted October 8, 2020 (edited) 37 minutes ago, Hudds Lad said: i'm not sure Alan, but i'm willing to let you buy me one for extensive testing so i can give you a definitive answer. purely for academic purposes of course can u put alan on top of boat in second pic... thanks... Edited October 8, 2020 by restlessnomad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athy Posted October 8, 2020 Report Share Posted October 8, 2020 31 minutes ago, Flyboy said: Knots are not metric, they're nautical miles per hour. That is precisely what I meant, yes. Ergo, they are (k)not metric. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Pegg Posted October 8, 2020 Report Share Posted October 8, 2020 (edited) Highly debatable that a knot isn’t metric. Don’t be confused by the use of the term ‘mile’ in nautical mile. It’s got nothing to do with the imperial statute mile. A nautical mile is derived from the distance at the Earth’s surface of the chord between two radials separated by an angle of one minute at the Earth’s centre. Degrees, minutes and seconds while not SI units are recognised measures under that system. A nautical mile is internationally acknowledged as being exactly 1852 metres having been standardised to the SI unit for length. Therefore a knot is 1.852 km/hour. And back to topic, can I point out that the term “shiny boat” is as much metaphorical as it is literal. Not all boats that shine are ‘shiny boats’. JP Edited October 8, 2020 by Captain Pegg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athy Posted October 8, 2020 Report Share Posted October 8, 2020 5 minutes ago, Captain Pegg said: Highly debatable that a knot isn’t metric. And back to topic, can I point out that the term “shiny boat” is as much metaphorical as it is literal. Not all boats that shine are ‘shiny boats’. JP I'm not going to debate it. But I'm certainly going to question your second assertion. Shiny boats have well-maintained, glistening paintwork and metalwork (maybe ropework too, though that doesn't really shine). So of course a boat which shines is shiny. Are you going to suggest that a boat which is painted black is white? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roland elsdon Posted October 8, 2020 Report Share Posted October 8, 2020 (edited) Mine shines when its wet because the paints been polished so much its almost back to undercoat, apart from where it is back to undercoat. Had to do some remedial repairs this month. Found waterways light blue from when they abused the living daylights out of her. Bw lister engine painting program Open engine room doors. Throw tin of bwb light blue through doors Shut doors. Sign off job. Go for tea break. ‘no buggerlnickthat’ Edited October 8, 2020 by roland elsdon Missed line Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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