mark99 Posted October 6, 2020 Report Share Posted October 6, 2020 47 minutes ago, Rickent said: As for Lord Byrons Maggot, you passed my mooring in Barrow last year and she has oodles of character. As well as having as superb boat name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paringa Posted October 6, 2020 Report Share Posted October 6, 2020 My prejudice is other barge owners - usually new and of a particular make - who never wave unless waved at in passing. It used to be barges stuck together. There, got that off my chest... thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Mack Posted October 6, 2020 Report Share Posted October 6, 2020 1 hour ago, restlessnomad said: its difficult to know if shiny boaters have superiority complex or ugly/scruffy boaters have inferiority complex... "I look up to him, but I look down on him..." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bee Posted October 6, 2020 Report Share Posted October 6, 2020 3 minutes ago, nicknorman said: I would agree with the general increased sense of entitlement, but I see it just as prevalent in rat boaters as it is in shiny boaters. Slightly different perhaps, but the rat boaters feel entitled to break the rules more than the shiny boaters. The shiny boaters can be guilty of undue “preciousness” over their boats. And in both cases, the majority are unable to tie their boats up properly! I think you're right but I don't see it as much on the other side of the channel, Probably because overall the density of boats is much less. In Holland though It can be really busy and lots of pressure on moorings but although there are a few cross words and impatience I don't think I see the 'class' thing as much. (Mind you I can't speak Dutch so who knows what is going on sometimes) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Richard Fairhurst Posted October 6, 2020 Popular Post Report Share Posted October 6, 2020 (edited) 10 hours ago, dmr said: We've shared locks with a few snobs, a retired army general type, some little property tycoons, a multi-millionaire, ready to sink springers, and a bloke on a plastic cruiser who didn't even have a windlass (one of our best trips ever, we spent several days doing a river together), as long as they are real boaters we will likely find something in common. Oh god no. The ones who call themselves "real boaters" are the worst. Usually Midlanders in their late '60s, called Keith, with a beard. They inevitably have a 1990s NABO sticker saying "CANALS were built for BOATS" in the window and a sarcastic sign about "Which bit of SLOW DOWN don't you understand?". The signwriting used to say "Keith & Mary Pillock", but Mary had the good sense to up sticks as soon as the kids left home and so the "& Mary" bit has been inexpertly painted out. I generally like pretty much everyone I meet on the waterways, from first-time hire-boaters to the Broom-Broom brigade, but there is a particular breed of supercilious, know-it-all old fart that brings me out in hives. (With apologies to any 60-something Brummie Keiths on here.) Edited October 6, 2020 by Richard Fairhurst 1 3 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurie Booth Posted October 6, 2020 Report Share Posted October 6, 2020 (edited) 6 hours ago, jeddlad said: What would knowing the name of the other boat solve? Now if the other boater involved was on here that would be great. I'd deffo get the popcorn out for that one! Knowing the name of the boat would enable us (forum members) to see if the person is a member of this forum, if not enable us to get the "Other side of the story" At the moment all we know is he has a posh shiny boat. Edited October 6, 2020 by Laurie Booth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Alan de Enfield Posted October 6, 2020 Report Share Posted October 6, 2020 40 minutes ago, Nightwatch said: Stop it! Yes - that's not nice, Mad-Max had mental health problems and to suggest that Izzy has it not in the best of taste. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWM Posted October 6, 2020 Report Share Posted October 6, 2020 It seems the country as a whole is both more judgemental and reactionary, with folks breaking down humanity into groups and ignoring the individual. Empathy for the other has all but disappeared, an example might be the driver cursing a cyclist momentarily holding them up, not stopping to think that he is scared witless by fast moving, and often inconsiderate traffic. In the past, most would have chuckled on meeting mr angry in the OP, possibly thinking to yourself how miserable his life must be but throwing the incident immediately behind you as irrelevant. As for envy, i do think it can be a very British trait. Growing up in west London i have had various jobs with many colleagues from India, the Caribbean, etc., and it was a joy to see what happened when one of the fellas turned up in a nice new car, a stream of congratulations and admiration followed, but more than once a neighbour has acquired a new vehicle and another has put a key along the side soon after. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tracy D'arth Posted October 6, 2020 Popular Post Report Share Posted October 6, 2020 Izz love,, you have now been molested by the four most antagonistic, argumentative, opinionated, attention seeking members of this forum. If you have survived and are still here, well done. Ignore them for long enough and they will go away, they are like naughty children, want to be heard all the time and hate being pulled up, especially by a woman. They get nasty at a whim, but are only internet tigers, not real bad people. I don't care what your boat , my boat or anyone else's boat looks like or how much Brasso they waste wearing the brass away needlessly. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickent Posted October 6, 2020 Report Share Posted October 6, 2020 32 minutes ago, mark99 said: As well as having as superb boat name. Absolutely. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmr Posted October 6, 2020 Report Share Posted October 6, 2020 18 minutes ago, Richard Fairhurst said: Oh god no. The ones who call themselves "real boaters" are the worst. Usually Midlanders in their late '60s, called Keith, with a beard. They inevitably have a 1990s NABO sticker saying "CANALS were built for BOATS" in the window and a sarcastic sign about "Which bit of SLOW DOWN don't you understand?". The signwriting used to say "Keith & Mary Pillock", but Mary had the good sense to up sticks as soon as the kids left home and so the "& Mary" bit has been inexpertly painted out. I generally like pretty much everyone I meet on the waterways, from first-time hire-boaters to the Broom-Broom brigade, but there is a particular breed of supercilious, know-it-all old fart that brings me out in hives. (With apologies to any 60-something Brummie Keiths on here.) My definition of a "Real Boater" is broad and would include most hire boaters, its anybody with a significant interest in boats and canals. An example of a non boater would be somebody living on a boat because they think its cheap housing and having zero interest in boats or canals, and yes they exist, I have met them. One sad case even told me that the rules don't apply to him because he is here out of necessity rather than to go boating. ...............Dave (over 60 and originally from Brum ?) 3 minutes ago, Tracy D'arth said: Izz love,, you have now been molested by the four most antagonistic, argumentative, opinionated, attention seeking members of this forum. If you have survived and are still here, well done. Ignore them for long enough and they will go away, they are like naughty children, want to be heard all the time and hate being pulled up, especially by a woman. They get nasty at a whim, but are only internet tigers, not real bad people. I don't care what your boat , my boat or anyone else's boat looks like or how much Brasso they waste wearing the brass away needlessly. Real boaters use brown sauce ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MrsM Posted October 6, 2020 Popular Post Report Share Posted October 6, 2020 45 minutes ago, Richard Fairhurst said: Oh god no. The ones who call themselves "real boaters" are the worst. Usually Midlanders in their late '60s, called Keith, with a beard. They inevitably have a 1990s NABO sticker saying "CANALS were built for BOATS" in the window and a sarcastic sign about "Which bit of SLOW DOWN don't you understand?". The signwriting used to say "Keith & Mary Pillock", but Mary had the good sense to up sticks as soon as the kids left home and so the "& Mary" bit has been inexpertly painted out. I generally like pretty much everyone I meet on the waterways, from first-time hire-boaters to the Broom-Broom brigade, but there is a particular breed of supercilious, know-it-all old fart that brings me out in hives. (With apologies to any 60-something Brummie Keiths on here.) I love it when you pass a boat and the "Mary" has been replaced by "Vacancy" - makes me chuckle. I would love a shiny boat. I'm a shiny boat on the inside and shabby boat on the outside in the same way that I'm a youthful skinny supermodel on the inside and chubby middle-aged woman on the outside. When I repaint next year I hope I will be a bit shinier (and a bit skinnier). 2 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alias Posted October 6, 2020 Report Share Posted October 6, 2020 1 minute ago, MrsM said: I love it when you pass a boat and the "Mary" has been replaced by "Vacancy" - makes me chuckle. I would love a shiny boat. I'm a shiny boat on the inside and shabby boat on the outside in the same way that I'm a youthful skinny supermodel on the inside and chubby middle-aged woman on the outside. When I repaint next year I hope I will be a bit shinier (and a bit skinnier). I saw one boat signwritten along the lines "Keith and the current Mrs Pillock". 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbybass Posted October 6, 2020 Report Share Posted October 6, 2020 I don't think that's as bad...as some of the so called religious people...who have sworn at me and barged me out of a Thames lock recently. God must be very forgiving and look after his own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post noone Posted October 6, 2020 Popular Post Report Share Posted October 6, 2020 (edited) DON'T JUDGE THE BOATER BY THE BOAT!... Not all shiny boats have snobby,self-important assholes aboard!... Not all tatty boats have alcoholic,druggie,"gippos" aboard... Keyboard warriors on the other hand....all MORONS!!! ? Edited October 6, 2020 by Leggers do it lying down removal of obscene language. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boaty Jo Posted October 6, 2020 Report Share Posted October 6, 2020 In the same way that only the people who don't have bowthrusters don't like them, those with scruffy boats are the only ones allowed to call someone else snobby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracy D'arth Posted October 6, 2020 Report Share Posted October 6, 2020 4 minutes ago, Leggers do it lying down said: DON'T JUDGE THE BOATER BY THE BOAT!... Not all shiny boats have snobby,self-important assholes aboard!... Not all tatty boats have alcoholic,druggie,"gippos" aboard... Keyboard warriors on the other hand....all twIts!!! ? I do agree with the sentiments but had to edit your language. Please, there are many women on this forum and it is insulting to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Mack Posted October 6, 2020 Report Share Posted October 6, 2020 1 hour ago, David Mack said: "I look up to him, but I look down on him..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noone Posted October 6, 2020 Report Share Posted October 6, 2020 9 minutes ago, Tracy D'arth said: I do agree with the sentiments but had to edit your language. Please, there are many women on this forum and it is insulting to them. My apologies.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicknorman Posted October 6, 2020 Report Share Posted October 6, 2020 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Tracy D'arth said: Please, there are many women on this forum and it is insulting to them. How would you know? Offended on others’ behalf perhaps? Edited October 6, 2020 by nicknorman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doratheexplorer Posted October 6, 2020 Report Share Posted October 6, 2020 It's possible that the snob guy was such an arse that he came and said what he did for absolutely no reason at all, but it's not something I've ever experienced. This leads to a sneaking suspicion that something was happening which annoyed him. Possible culprits could be; noise, from a genny, engine or loudspeaker; detritus left around the towpath; black smoke from a chimney; dog roaming off lead. There could surely be other things which I'd think of if I thunk for a bit longer. I'm not saying if any of these are justification for the guy's attitude, but usually there's at least something happening on both sides. The fact that the OP has been pretty sketchy with the details just leaves the rest of us trying to fill in the blanks. The original post does just come over as a rant. Who knows whether it's justified or not? The OP does, and the 'snobby' guy does. The rest of us have no clue. I write this while my genny is busy humming away outside, and I'm aware this can annoy some people.... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracy D'arth Posted October 6, 2020 Report Share Posted October 6, 2020 3 minutes ago, Leggers do it lying down said: My apologies.? Thank you, a gentleman emerges, welcome. Drinks are on me. Love the forum name by the way. T'D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
restlessnomad Posted October 6, 2020 Report Share Posted October 6, 2020 17 minutes ago, Tracy D'arth said: I do agree with the sentiments but had to edit your language. Please, there are many women on this forum and it is insulting to them. why is it insulting to women to use bad language (any more than men)... are we still treating women as infants in 2020? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doratheexplorer Posted October 6, 2020 Report Share Posted October 6, 2020 18 minutes ago, Tracy D'arth said: I do agree with the sentiments but had to edit your language. Please, there are many women on this forum and it is insulting to them. Looks ok to me. Now I wanna know what it said before?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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