CompairHolman Posted October 4, 2020 Report Share Posted October 4, 2020 Saw this extension put on the stern , not only sticking out 3 ft past the tiller but square ended as well. Will this be seen jammed in a winding hole near you soon ? Good or bad idea ? After and before pictures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark99 Posted October 4, 2020 Report Share Posted October 4, 2020 It's a fender ....... but not liftable! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noone Posted October 4, 2020 Report Share Posted October 4, 2020 Good if you are sitting on it drinking cocktails in the sun!. ? But turning it in a tight winding hole would be interesting!.? Cuts down your" maneuverability" in tight spaces too.? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldGoat Posted October 4, 2020 Report Share Posted October 4, 2020 Innovative - AAARRGGHH. Someday all boats will be like that..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sea Dog Posted October 4, 2020 Report Share Posted October 4, 2020 Just looks plain ugly to me. A modification conceived by someone with no idea and executed by someone with no conscience. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark99 Posted October 4, 2020 Report Share Posted October 4, 2020 (edited) It's increased his turning circle. The only saving grace is that the platform is "flying" and perhaps won't add potential to cill his boat much more than normal. There is no baseplate neither so its a leaf and dead dog collector. Edited October 4, 2020 by mark99 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timx Posted October 4, 2020 Report Share Posted October 4, 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frangar Posted October 4, 2020 Report Share Posted October 4, 2020 Well it’s not made a pig ugly widebeam any prettier that’s for sure! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bee Posted October 4, 2020 Report Share Posted October 4, 2020 Could be for a motorbike? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark99 Posted October 4, 2020 Report Share Posted October 4, 2020 (edited) I think this is from the "friendly narrowboat forum" on Facebook. I know someone who raised concerns about another fabrication done by the same welder who when they and others pointed out the flaws in the design in an evidence based way was banned from the site temporarily and the comments deleted. It's a joke forum populated in general (80%) with mainly backslapping clueless people ripe for targetting by traders who are allowed to advertise and delete comments re their rubbish work. 20% on this site appear to be very knowlegeable. In general this site has a very low quality content. Any site that dissallows peer reviews is worthless. You have been warned! Edited October 4, 2020 by mark99 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CompairHolman Posted October 4, 2020 Author Report Share Posted October 4, 2020 Probably this cabin extension ? Seems to have been built without knowing bridge holes are arched ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark99 Posted October 4, 2020 Report Share Posted October 4, 2020 (edited) That's the one. The poster, who was advertising to be honest deleted all replies suggesting it may not be optimal! There was another one too. But a wooden version by another builder. So many "wows that's fantastic how dare you other lot raise concerns". Edited October 4, 2020 by mark99 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roland elsdon Posted October 4, 2020 Report Share Posted October 4, 2020 Some get built from new like that including fatbeams. Love the idea of gunnel just stopping. At least it has a foward means of escape instead of the normal tut piled up blocking exit from the front doors. Pet hate of mine after getting someone out of a burning boat with only one exit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phantom_iv Posted October 4, 2020 Report Share Posted October 4, 2020 I’m sure I’ve seen the original boat in the flesh... I seem to recall it was made to transport a mobility scooter. Not a fan myself but if it allows the owner to carry on boating and still get to the shops then hopefully it works for him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Mack Posted October 4, 2020 Report Share Posted October 4, 2020 4 hours ago, Leggers do it lying down said: Good if you are sitting on it drinking cocktails in the sun!. ? But turning it in a tight winding hole would be interesting!.? Cuts down your" maneuverability" in tight spaces too.? And puts up your licence and mooring costs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noone Posted October 4, 2020 Report Share Posted October 4, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, CompairHolman said: Probably this cabin extension ? Seems to have been built without knowing bridge holes are arched ? Is the deck that profile along the whole length of the boat!?..Been built not knowing the rest of the deck is arched!???? Edited October 4, 2020 by Leggers do it lying down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark99 Posted October 5, 2020 Report Share Posted October 5, 2020 (edited) Where this modification (high and forward cabin extension) is especially vulnerable is, when you put the boat at the bottom of a high lock which coincides with a bridge and someone <or the steerer> empties the lock. The force of the water can draw the bow into the side at an angle and bring the protrubing cabinside into the bridge arch. On that site, comments pointing anything like this out or explaining the evolved design with genuine forward cabins (forepeak) are different being very low with a good inward slope are deleted. Edited October 5, 2020 by mark99 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pearley Posted October 5, 2020 Report Share Posted October 5, 2020 12 hours ago, mark99 said: I think this is from the "friendly narrowboat forum" on Facebook. I know someone who raised concerns about another fabrication done by the same welder who when they and others pointed out the flaws in the design in an evidence based way was banned from the site temporarily and the comments deleted. It's a joke forum populated in general (80%) with mainly backslapping clueless people ripe for targetting by traders who are allowed to advertise and delete comments re their rubbish work. 20% on this site appear to be very knowlegeable. In general this site has a very low quality content. Any site that dissallows peer reviews is worthless. You have been warned! 11 hours ago, David Mack said: And puts up your licence and mooring costs. When I asked on Friendly Narrowboat Forum whether the owner had declared it and paid the extra fee I received a lot of abuse so left the not so friendly forum. So only 19% knowledgeable members now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athy Posted October 5, 2020 Report Share Posted October 5, 2020 13 hours ago, CompairHolman said: Probably this cabin extension ? Seems to have been built without knowing bridge holes are arched ? Is this not simply continuing the original roof line? Early Springers had a peaked roof; it would have looked odd of the extension had been curved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuthound Posted October 5, 2020 Report Share Posted October 5, 2020 3 hours ago, Athy said: Is this not simply continuing the original roof line? Early Springers had a peaked roof; it would have looked odd of the extension had been curved. Well it will certainly look odd when that flimsy looking handrail (and possibly the corner of the cabin extension) gets crushed against the arch of a low bridge 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athy Posted October 5, 2020 Report Share Posted October 5, 2020 1 minute ago, cuthound said: Well it will certainly look odd when that flimsy looking handrail (and possibly the corner of the cabin extension) gets crushed against the arch of a low bridge The CanalTime boats, similar in frontal contours apart from the roof shape, seem to do all right. They do crash into everything else, mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracy D'arth Posted October 5, 2020 Report Share Posted October 5, 2020 5 minutes ago, Athy said: The CanalTime boats, similar in frontal contours apart from the roof shape, seem to do all right. They do crash into everything else, mind. There is some narrowing of the cabin front on the Canal Slime boats which probably prevents too many impacts with the bridges. Either that or the silly names on the bow flanks frighten the masonry away! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athy Posted October 5, 2020 Report Share Posted October 5, 2020 12 minutes ago, Tracy D'arth said: There is some narrowing of the cabin front on the Canal Slime boats which probably prevents too many impacts with the bridges. Either that or the silly names on the bow flanks frighten the masonry away! I actually like their 45-foot S.W. Durham boats and have sometimes toyed with the idea of trading 'Trojan' in for one. But so far I've always made a full recovery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracy D'arth Posted October 5, 2020 Report Share Posted October 5, 2020 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Athy said: I actually like their 45-foot S.W. Durham boats and have sometimes toyed with the idea of trading 'Trojan' in for one. But so far I've always made a full recovery. Now I know you are a joker, they are 'orrible boats. A Gardner in one would go straight through. ! Edited October 5, 2020 by Tracy D'arth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark99 Posted October 5, 2020 Report Share Posted October 5, 2020 (edited) You got to imagine the ellipse "described" by a bow rolling around the bank. Then superimpose the bridge profile to get a 3d map of the danger zone. The reason why cabins stop where the bow starts to converge. Or the cratch end board is triangular. If one insists on a very forward cabin, its normally low and comes with significant tumblehome. Ref historic butties etc. At this point on that mickey mouse facebook site I would be banned for criticising the fabricator (who is trying to drum up more business and could not defend his design when asked lots of times) in an "unfriendly" manner. Edited October 5, 2020 by mark99 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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