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“Boating Beyond Repair” warning to Newbies How not to buy a boat


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4 minutes ago, Alan de Enfield said:

 

On another forum i frequent (not boating) a poster recently posted this in response to a question as to why so many people buy 'rubbish'.

 

Ignorance is bliss. These younger collectors (which being in my early 30s, I must admit part in that group) do not visit the *forum*, they pretty much stick to facebook. They do not do research because they don't want to spend time doing so.

Research is not instant gratification. And with so many of us (not me) living at home with parents, they've got extra cash to spend without doing that research or even caring.

We already know what you collect, Alan... the tears of people who don't do their research (there's bound to be a specialist forum for that somewhere).

 

The young will not defer gratification.  Micky Flannagan has a theory on this that I won't post here.

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We bought our first boat on the strength of the previous owners survey. We were lucky it was a Peter Nicholls hull and sound. There were no facebook groups or forums then. When we sold it the buyer didn't get a survey and neither did the buyer of our second boat.

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A lady who moored by us at Napton bought an old boat cheap with no survey, she said why do I need a survey I know its an old heap of junk that is going to need money spending on it, I may as well use the survey money. She also stuck her head in my engine hole hatch and told me I should adjust my tappets. An interesting individual I wouldn't want to be on the wrong side of her, said what she thought

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They are a nice couple, they moored up wind of me a few months ago. They were about 60’ away, but their engine sounds like a concrete mixer, and the fumes from their engine were unbearable. I was about to move away, when they switched it off, and they moved off next day. I feel sorry for them, hope they get help.

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On 31/08/2020 at 13:18, PD1964 said:

This is a big warning to new young boaters of the perils of buying an old boat without getting a survey and it shows that a lot of YouTube Vloggers know absolutely nothing about boats, so don’t let them influence you(seek experienced or professional people to help)

 

 

Tomorrow will be our fifth full day of visiting all of the brokers which lie between Birmingham and Liverpool (we're travelling in the motorhome for convenience).

 

The one thing that has surprised me during the various broker visits is just how many of the broker representatives have sold boats to newbies without the purchasers first instructing a survey. 

 

In most instances these guys are not young but have instead taken it upon themselves to save a few quid......     in the short term!

 

 

 

 

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When my boat was being repainted and blacked last year, it had to come out of the dry dock to let an old Springer which was being repainted go in their because it had developed a leak and was in danger of sinking in the (wet) paint dock.

 

Turned out a chap had bought it for £5k without a survey and decided to spend £5k on a repaint!!!! Talk sbout getting you priorities right.  The boatyard recommended overplating at a cost of £10k to rectify matters.

 

My blacking was held up for several weeks whilst the guy decided what to do. In the end he decided to go for the recommended overplating, so his £5k "bargain" ended up costing him £20k of which he would be lucky to get £10k back if he sold it.

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3 minutes ago, Darren Hep said:

Just seen they have a new boat and their old one is up for sale at Whilton Marina. 20k I am very surprised with the value, can anyone explain this? Seems a high price for a boat with the problems it has.

 

Caveat Emptor.     I've seen scrap sold for more.  So it is floating now?  Must have been "fixed" somehow.

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7 minutes ago, Darren Hep said:

Just seen they have a new boat and their old one is up for sale at Whilton Marina. 20k I am very surprised with the value, can anyone explain this? Seems a high price for a boat with the problems it has.

 

Does it say recent survey and freshly blacked?

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1 hour ago, Darren Hep said:

Just seen they have a new boat and their old one is up for sale at Whilton Marina. 20k I am very surprised with the value, can anyone explain this? Seems a high price for a boat with the problems it has.

 

'celebrity' boat, perhaps?

 

After all, it has been on the internet.

 

< searches for irony button >

 

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16 minutes ago, Rickent said:

is the new boat a crowd funded  job?

yes, survey August 2020, new blacking and anodes.

 

Yup, Whilton do that and use it to convince newbies that they don't need to fork out £1000 for a survey "we have already done it for you".

 

There have been a number of boats that have had a Whilton Survey and then sunk as the buyer leaves the marina & takes 'them home'.

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19 minutes ago, Alan de Enfield said:

 

Yup, Whilton do that and use it to convince newbies that they don't need to fork out £1000 for a survey "we have already done it for you".

 

There have been a number of boats that have had a Whilton Survey and then sunk as the buyer leaves the marina & takes 'them home'.

There's another one I saw at Braunston that went 'under offer' that's now on sale at Whilton for 2k less with 'recent survey'. Wonder what the original buyer's survey found...

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43 minutes ago, Alan de Enfield said:

 

Yup, Whilton do that and use it to convince newbies that they don't need to fork out £1000 for a survey "we have already done it for you".

 

There have been a number of boats that have had a Whilton Survey and then sunk as the buyer leaves the marina & takes 'them home'.

A guy who I worked with bought one from whilton six months ago and by the time he got it to Syston it was sinking.

No survey.

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Re:  The seller survey.

 

All the surveys that I have had.......have small print.

 

The small print on the bottom says that the survey was commissioned and paid for by the seller and the seller is not allowed to show it to anyone else without the specific permission of the surveyor...

 

It has also said that the survey is only ," on the day"... And the surveyor is not responsible for anything that arises after that point

 

A nice way out..no legal come back, in fact you are legally in the wrong if you allow a purchaser to see it.

 

Is this not still the case ?

 

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