ditchcrawler Posted August 15, 2020 Report Share Posted August 15, 2020 On 10/08/2020 at 20:17, Naughty Cal said: Their insurance should surely foot the bill? Would insurance cover wanton damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnetman Posted August 15, 2020 Report Share Posted August 15, 2020 I think most insurances have clauses about wreckless behaviour. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracy D'arth Posted August 15, 2020 Report Share Posted August 15, 2020 11 minutes ago, magnetman said: I think most insurances have clauses about wreckless behaviour. Ha Ha , there is no wreck !!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momac Posted August 16, 2020 Report Share Posted August 16, 2020 I hear there are quite a few boats on the Trent below Nottingham from Derby Motor Boat Club that were prevented from travelling back to their home base due to this incident so spare moorings in the area are understood be scarce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stagedamager Posted August 16, 2020 Report Share Posted August 16, 2020 Its a shame the second lock at Beeston isn't usable as that would have still given a through route. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterboat Posted August 16, 2020 Report Share Posted August 16, 2020 1 hour ago, MartynG said: I hear there are quite a few boats on the Trent below Nottingham from Derby Motor Boat Club that were prevented from travelling back to their home base due to this incident so spare moorings in the area are understood be scarce. My mate Alan wants to go the other way! He is stranded at Derby motor boat club and is very annoyed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob-M Posted August 16, 2020 Report Share Posted August 16, 2020 4 hours ago, MartynG said: I hear there are quite a few boats on the Trent below Nottingham from Derby Motor Boat Club that were prevented from travelling back to their home base due to this incident so spare moorings in the area are understood be scarce. We were in Nottingham last weekend and there were boats moored all along the steps at county hall so I'm sure plenty of them would have only been there for the weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frangar Posted August 16, 2020 Report Share Posted August 16, 2020 10 minutes ago, Rob-M said: We were in Nottingham last weekend and there were boats moored all along the steps at county hall so I'm sure plenty of them would have only been there for the weekend. Wasn’t that bit of bank disputed ownership? At one point it had quite a few “long term” residents.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midnight Posted August 19, 2020 Report Share Posted August 19, 2020 On 11/08/2020 at 10:15, haggis said: I must admit I get nervous when descending in a big lock when you get out of site of your ropes. It seems all too easy for a rope to get caught in a crevice in the lock side or get jammed on the lock side bollard or cleat and if it is one of the locks where a lockie takes your rope, passes it round something and back to you, I always watch that they do it in such a way that the rope can't get jammed. haggis Serious question but why do you need ropes when descending a lock? I only use the centre line when single handed and then I'm stood on the lockside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haggis Posted August 19, 2020 Report Share Posted August 19, 2020 1 hour ago, Midnight said: Serious question but why do you need ropes when descending a lock? I only use the centre line when single handed and then I'm stood on the lockside. Ah, I was talking about big locks as on a river, rather than a canal. On a canal I am off operating the lock and have no contact with ropes but on a river where the locks are operated for you, I stand at the front and control the bow rope. This involves handing it to the lock keeper if going down and he passes it back to me after he has put it round something or if going up, I throw the rope up onto the lock side. It is going down that worries me and I always feel relieved if I see that the lock keeper is keeping an eye on things. haggis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momac Posted August 19, 2020 Report Share Posted August 19, 2020 2 hours ago, Midnight said: Serious question but why do you need ropes when descending a lock? I only use the centre line when single handed and then I'm stood on the lockside. You cant do that on the locks on The River Trent below Nottingham. You do need to have ropes on to control the boat even when descending , especially if it's windy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naughty Cal Posted August 19, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 19, 2020 The chap at the front of this lock decided he was only going to use one rope. Needless to say it didn't go well. Took an absolute age to get through the lock as every time the keeper opened the sluice even slightly the boat buggered off across the lock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magpie patrick Posted August 19, 2020 Report Share Posted August 19, 2020 On 16/08/2020 at 09:08, stagedamager said: Its a shame the second lock at Beeston isn't usable as that would have still given a through route. True, but I think it's the thick end of 100 years since that lock last saw a boat, and the river has quite a gradient from the lock tail to the centre of Nottingham, a typical narrow boat might struggle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noddyboater Posted August 19, 2020 Report Share Posted August 19, 2020 2 hours ago, Naughty Cal said: The chap at the front of this lock decided he was only going to use one rope. Needless to say it didn't go well. Took an absolute age to get through the lock as every time the keeper opened the sluice even slightly the boat buggered off across the lock But insisting 2 ropes are used when descending in a lock alone is stupid, especially if you're single handed. The old time keepers at Cromwell are quite happy to shut the gates behind you and drop you down while you hang around in the middle of the lock, very sensible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrsmelly Posted August 19, 2020 Report Share Posted August 19, 2020 On 16/08/2020 at 13:33, frangar said: Wasn’t that bit of bank disputed ownership? At one point it had quite a few “long term” residents.... Yes, its not Carts it is local council who dont give a hoot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrsmelly Posted August 19, 2020 Report Share Posted August 19, 2020 2 hours ago, magpie patrick said: True, but I think it's the thick end of 100 years since that lock last saw a boat, and the river has quite a gradient from the lock tail to the centre of Nottingham, a typical narrow boat might struggle Correct. I have taken a narrowboat up near to the lock but you do need to know the river. It is possible to get a long way though past county hall in much deeper craft and past Wilford toll bridge without any problems whatsoever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naughty Cal Posted August 19, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 19, 2020 1 hour ago, noddyboater said: But insisting 2 ropes are used when descending in a lock alone is stupid, especially if you're single handed. The old time keepers at Cromwell are quite happy to shut the gates behind you and drop you down while you hang around in the middle of the lock, very sensible. You won't have much luck getting the latest locky at Cromwell to let you do that ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momac Posted August 19, 2020 Report Share Posted August 19, 2020 3 hours ago, Naughty Cal said: You won't have much luck getting the latest locky at Cromwell to let you do that ? Do you know him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naughty Cal Posted August 20, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2020 11 hours ago, MartynG said: Do you know him? Have come across him a few times. Bit of a stickler for "the rules" and thinks he knows best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momac Posted August 20, 2020 Report Share Posted August 20, 2020 1 hour ago, Naughty Cal said: Have come across him a few times. Bit of a stickler for "the rules" and thinks he knows best. On the basis of two short conversations with the guy that's what I thought too. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerryP Posted August 26, 2020 Report Share Posted August 26, 2020 The boat that caused all the damage at Meadow Lane lock was a large Cruiser called "STEALTH", the owner Tim Jones is a complete idiot, I've known of him for years, he used to work at McDonald's on Ratcliffe road telling everyone he was "head of maintenance", where he was actually employed as the cleaner, he was last seen heading towards Sawley at considerable speed apparently. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterboat Posted August 26, 2020 Report Share Posted August 26, 2020 3 minutes ago, JerryP said: The boat that caused all the damage at Meadow Lane lock was a large Cruiser called "STEALTH", the owner Tim Jones is a complete idiot, I've known of him for years, he used to work at McDonald's on Ratcliffe road telling everyone he was "head of maintenance", where he was actually employed as the cleaner, he was last seen heading towards Sawley at considerable speed apparently. No doubt at some point he will have to pay for the damage caused or at least I hope he does Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naughty Cal Posted August 26, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 26, 2020 He did confess to the damage so presumably CRT can pursue him for the costs if they choose to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jen-in-Wellies Posted August 26, 2020 Report Share Posted August 26, 2020 2 hours ago, Naughty Cal said: He did confess to the damage so presumably CRT can pursue him for the costs if they choose to do so. With a boat called Stealth, how will they find him? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracy D'arth Posted August 26, 2020 Report Share Posted August 26, 2020 (edited) A McDonald's cleaner unlikely to be able to finance that repair,,,,,,, wonder,,,,,,will his insurance cover it? I doubt it. Likely it will land on the licence payers once more. Edited August 26, 2020 by Tracy D'arth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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