Jen-in-Wellies Posted July 16, 2020 Report Share Posted July 16, 2020 1 hour ago, Ianws said: Does the OP need additional info about mineral, multigrade, synthetic, semi-synthetic oils, specifications etc. Once we know what is being used this may become relevant. Added complication that isn't needed just yet I reckon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ianws Posted July 16, 2020 Report Share Posted July 16, 2020 I’m not an expert so please forgive me if I’m wrong but I thought general advice was for mineral multigrade that was not synthetic with certain specifications. Not hard to find but not likely in Halfords. I just didn’t want the OP to go and fill with something inappropriate but know there are people able to advise exactly what to get for that engine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan de Enfield Posted July 16, 2020 Report Share Posted July 16, 2020 2 minutes ago, Ianws said: I’m not an expert so please forgive me if I’m wrong but I thought general advice was for mineral multigrade that was not synthetic with certain specifications. Not hard to find but not likely in Halfords. I just didn’t want the OP to go and fill with something inappropriate but know there are people able to advise exactly what to get for that engine. You'd be surprised - Halfords do a 'classic oil' for vehicle engines from the 60's & 70's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 16, 2020 Report Share Posted July 16, 2020 15 minutes ago, Ianws said: I’m not an expert so please forgive me if I’m wrong but I thought general advice was for mineral multigrade that was not synthetic with certain specifications. Not hard to find but not likely in Halfords. I just didn’t want the OP to go and fill with something inappropriate but know there are people able to advise exactly what to get for that engine. I've purchased my last 3 lots of multigrade oil from Halfords, they always seem to have plenty in stock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murflynn Posted July 17, 2020 Report Share Posted July 17, 2020 (edited) 9 hours ago, Alan de Enfield said: You'd be surprised - Halfords do a 'classic oil' for vehicle engines from the 60's & 70's. exactly. when I was running a canal boat Halfords was the only convenient place to get a suitable oil. B&Q used to do one but that was many years ago. Edited July 17, 2020 by Murflynn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldGoat Posted July 17, 2020 Report Share Posted July 17, 2020 Asda sell multigrde oils and certainly 20/50, though for Beta type engines 15/40 is preferred and when available often cheaper. Folks rush to B&Q and the like - but most small town have several motor factors from which you get a better price. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onewheeler Posted July 17, 2020 Report Share Posted July 17, 2020 I buy my 15W/40 minérale from French supermarkets. 11€ for 5 L is typical. It fits in the back of the car next to the wine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan de Enfield Posted July 17, 2020 Report Share Posted July 17, 2020 59 minutes ago, OldGoat said: Asda sell multigrde oils and certainly 20/50, though for Beta type engines 15/40 is preferred and when available often cheaper. Folks rush to B&Q and the like - but most small town have several motor factors from which you get a better price. You do need to be careful that it is a non-detergent mineral (vintage oil) preferably CC grade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Brooks Posted July 17, 2020 Report Share Posted July 17, 2020 (edited) 56 minutes ago, Alan de Enfield said: You do need to be careful that it is a non-detergent mineral (vintage oil) preferably CC grade. I think that you will find that CC will have a degree of detergancy. I agree that for old high oil capacity engines with no oil filter a non-detergent oil is usually recommended but if the engine has a oil filter you rely upon a degree of detergency to keep the contaminates in suspension so the filter can remove them. Edited July 17, 2020 by Tony Brooks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchcrawler Posted July 17, 2020 Report Share Posted July 17, 2020 14 hours ago, Alan de Enfield said: You'd be surprised - Halfords do a 'classic oil' for vehicle engines from the 60's & 70's. Not as cheap as Wilco 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machpoint005 Posted July 17, 2020 Report Share Posted July 17, 2020 16 hours ago, Rumsky said: I've purchased my last 3 lots of multigrade oil from Halfords, they always seem to have plenty in stock. I get mine from a motor factor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuthound Posted July 17, 2020 Report Share Posted July 17, 2020 5 hours ago, ditchcrawler said: Not as cheap as Wilco Better looking tin than Halfords as well! ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murflynn Posted July 17, 2020 Report Share Posted July 17, 2020 10 hours ago, Onewheeler said: I buy my 15W/40 minérale from French supermarkets. 11€ for 5 L is typical. It fits in the back of the car next to the wine. that's a long way from Gloucester to travel just to stock up with wine and engine oil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onewheeler Posted July 17, 2020 Report Share Posted July 17, 2020 46 minutes ago, Murflynn said: that's a long way from Gloucester to travel just to stock up with wine and engine oil Ah, but we be on our other boat on t' mainland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murflynn Posted July 18, 2020 Report Share Posted July 18, 2020 9 hours ago, Onewheeler said: Ah, but we be on our other boat on t' mainland. not wot yer 'location' says innit? youm should keep up to date moi luvver. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackrose Posted July 18, 2020 Report Share Posted July 18, 2020 (edited) On 15/07/2020 at 23:26, Layla said: We both work on property. Surveys are often a massive rip off and waste of time unless you trust the surveyor to be both expert and diligent. We don’t know a boat surveyor like that so hesitated to throw money at that job. But we know what you mean.... ... plus the marina owner says according to the old survey there’s probably 3-5k of Hull works that’s need doing. if we get these engine problems sorted for say 500. And the Hull works cost 4000. Then we’re in for 22.5k for a fifty foot colecraft 1978, with revitalised structure and engine. We have working interiors,,, shower, pump, 2 batteries, inverter, gas boiler, and pipes and electrical for those... on a scale of 1-10 how good a position would be in? First of all forget about any property/boat analogies. Unlike some property surveys, boat surveys are generally not a waste of time, but it's best to get a hull surveyed before you buy the boat. From what you say it sounds like you might need to get it surveyed anyway so it really should have been done before you parted with your money. Secondly, try to divest yourselves of the ubiquitous property investment mindset when thinking about boats. Most boats don't appreciate in value and you'll chuck thousands at your boat (not only yours, we all do it) and probably never recover those costs when you eventually come to sell it. Do it because you love it and you want the experiences, otherwise you'll end up hating it. Edited July 18, 2020 by blackrose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuthound Posted July 18, 2020 Report Share Posted July 18, 2020 4 hours ago, blackrose said: First of all forget about any property/boat analogies. Unlike some property surveys, boat surveys are generally not a waste of time, but it's best to get a hull surveyed before you buy the boat. From what you say it sounds like you might need to get it surveyed anyway so it really should have been done before you parted with your money. Secondly, try to divest yourselves of the ubiquitous property investment mindset when thinking about boats. Most boats don't appreciate in value and you'll chuck thousands at your boat (not only yours, we all do it) and probably never recover those costs when you eventually come to sell it. Do it because you love it and you want the experiences, otherwise you'll end up hating it. Completely agree. Unless you are very experienced AND not averse to risk, the money on a survey is well spent. Usually the surveyor will find enough wrong to renegotiatevthevprice down by at least as much as his fee. When my boat was being docked last year, the boatyard had to delay my blacking. Turned out someone had bought an older boat without survey, and was having it repainted. It began to sink in the paint dock so my boat had to be taken out of the dry dock and his boat put in. They found both sides and the bottom to be porous, so his "bargain" needed £15k's worth of overplating and rebottoming.With the cost of his repaint plus the purchase price, he would never get the money spent back, because it was still and old boat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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