Dave123 Posted July 8, 2020 Report Share Posted July 8, 2020 17 hours ago, The Happy Nomad said: I agree see my earlier post. The issue is whether what happened justified the idiotic response. Is there ever a justification to behave like that? No matter what happened beforehand, off screen as it were, two wrongs don't make a right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 8, 2020 Report Share Posted July 8, 2020 3 minutes ago, Dave123 said: Is there ever a justification to behave like that? No matter what happened beforehand, off screen as it were, two wrongs don't make a right. Yes I agree as I think I have said a couple of times now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave123 Posted July 8, 2020 Report Share Posted July 8, 2020 Just now, The Happy Nomad said: Yes I agree as I think I have said a couple of times now. Sorry! Although it is nice when everyone is agreeing I didn't mean to be an echo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 8, 2020 Report Share Posted July 8, 2020 2 minutes ago, Dave123 said: Sorry! Although it is nice when everyone is agreeing I didn't mean to be an echo? I would still love to hear the full story though. As so often videos posted on the net are just a very small part of a story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Bourke Posted July 8, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 8, 2020 Just remember that when the Red Mist descends there's probably a smart phone ready and waiting to capture it in all its glory. Perhaps seeing the smart phone deterred the skipper of the cruiser from doing something even worse, who knows. It is also worth bearing in mind that another "innocent" craft might have been approaching that bend and put in a very dangerous situation. Remember there are more paddleboarders, kayakers, and personal watercraft users than ever before on the waterways. Seeing footage like this has made ME less likely to feature in a future "You've Been Framed" episode. Hopefully. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naughty Cal Posted July 8, 2020 Report Share Posted July 8, 2020 (edited) I think the chaps comments at the end of the other video that was shot are very telling. "I'm coming to your yard to kill your xxxxxxx dog" He certainly isn't as innocent in this as he is making out. The fact his boat was in his own words fine and isnow suddenly broken when a go fund me page is set up also shows what sort of person he is. The other chap was certainly not in the right with his actions but this chap is far from innocent as well. Edited July 8, 2020 by Athy To remove swearing, after report. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hudds Lad Posted July 8, 2020 Report Share Posted July 8, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, Naughty Cal said: I think the chaps comments at the end of the other video that was shot are very telling. "I'm coming to your yard to kill your xxxxxxx dog" it sounds more like, "I'll get the boys round your yard and f#@king nick your dog" anyway, no matter what is said or who did what, its certainly put me right off ever venturing onto rivers. Edited July 8, 2020 by Athy To remove quoted swearing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 8, 2020 Report Share Posted July 8, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, Naughty Cal said: I think the chaps comments at the end of the other video that was shot are very telling. "I'm coming to your yard to kill your xxxxxxx dog" He certainly isn't as innocent in this as he is making out. The fact his boat was in his own words fine and isnow suddenly broken when a go fund me page is set up also shows what sort of person he is. The other chap was certainly not in the right with his actions but this chap is far from innocent as well. Im pretty sure its 'nick' as in steal your dog, not that it makes a huge difference of course. Edited July 8, 2020 by The Happy Nomad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartland Posted July 8, 2020 Report Share Posted July 8, 2020 I used to think that rage was confined to roads these days. Yet river rage is still about and causing an issue, it would seem. Whatever the outcome of this encounter, and whatever the causes, there remains the danger where craft might sink and people might be hurt. There is also a case for a potential loss of licence, or licenses, I would suspect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 8, 2020 Report Share Posted July 8, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, Hudds Lad said: it sounds more like, "I'll get the boys round your yard and f#@king nick your dog" anyway, no matter what is said or who did what, its certainly put me right off ever venturing onto rivers. I have never heard or seen anything like that on a river, I wouldn't let it put you off. Edited July 8, 2020 by The Happy Nomad Add missing word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naughty Cal Posted July 8, 2020 Report Share Posted July 8, 2020 3 minutes ago, Hudds Lad said: it sounds more like, "I'll get the boys round your yard and f#@king nick your dog" anyway, no matter what is said or who did what, its certainly put me right off ever venturing onto rivers. I wouldn't worry they have had their annual outing now. You will be safe for the rest of this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 8, 2020 Report Share Posted July 8, 2020 31 minutes ago, Heartland said: I used to think that rage was confined to roads these days. Yet river rage is still about and causing an issue, it would seem. Whatever the outcome of this encounter, and whatever the causes, there remains the danger where craft might sink and people might be hurt. There is also a case for a potential loss of licence, or licenses, I would suspect. My understanding is that canal and river rage goes right back to the earliest days of working boats when arguments would commonly break out over things like who got to a lock first and whos lock it was. That said of course that was when livelihoods depended on such things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PD1964 Posted July 8, 2020 Report Share Posted July 8, 2020 1 hour ago, Naughty Cal said: I wouldn't worry they have had their annual outing now. You will be safe for the rest of this year. Until the next idiot on a powerful plastic starts his holiday. There’s lots of speeding boats on the Trent just like there are lots of speeding boats on the canals, there just a tad faster on the Trent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momac Posted July 8, 2020 Report Share Posted July 8, 2020 49 minutes ago, PD1964 said: Until the next idiot on a powerful plastic starts his holiday. There’s lots of speeding boats on the Trent just like there are lots of speeding boats on the canals, there just a tad faster on the Trent. U boaters using terminology like ''plastic'' doesn't help. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zenataomm Posted July 8, 2020 Report Share Posted July 8, 2020 2 hours ago, The Happy Nomad said: I have heard or seen anything like that on a river, I wouldn't let it put you off. Is that a double negative or a single nonsense? Anyway, I'm sure it's not something you said earlier twice. ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 8, 2020 Report Share Posted July 8, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, zenataomm said: Is that a double negative or a single nonsense? Anyway, I'm sure it's not something you said earlier twice. ? It means I personally have never witnessed behaviour like that on a river and I certainly wouldn't let a single incident, that happens to have popped up on the internet disaude the person who I was responding to from going on rivers. Does that make it a bit clearer for you? Edit I inadvertently ommited 'never'. Edited July 8, 2020 by The Happy Nomad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athy Posted July 8, 2020 Report Share Posted July 8, 2020 10 minutes ago, MartynG said: U boaters using terminology like ''plastic'' doesn't help. ? You feel it's non - U, perhaps? Or have you spotted German submarines in the area? What does the "P" in "GRP" stand for? I thought it was "plastic". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan de Enfield Posted July 8, 2020 Report Share Posted July 8, 2020 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Athy said: What does the "P" in "GRP" stand for? I thought it was "plastic". O' Dear ............................. Glass Reinforced Polymer Misuse has changed it to 'Plastic'. as the 'material' can be manufactured using differing 'plastics' as the polymer, eg Vinyl or epoxy or Polyester) Edit to add : Then there are all sorts of derivatives from FRP (Fibre Reinforced Polymer) to CRFP (Carbon Fibre Reinforced Polymer) Edited July 8, 2020 by Alan de Enfield Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirweste Posted July 8, 2020 Report Share Posted July 8, 2020 The P stands for Potato. As other's have said, what happened before this incident is utterly irrelevant. Hope the potato boat person in charge gets dragged through whatever punishment is available. If the video recorder did something different then that should be dealt with too of course. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doratheexplorer Posted July 8, 2020 Report Share Posted July 8, 2020 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Alan de Enfield said: O' Dear ............................. Glass Reinforced Polyester Misuse has changed it to 'Plastic'. as the 'material' can be manufactured using differing 'plastics' as the polymer, eg Vinyl or epoxy in addition to Polyester) Polyester can be a type of plastic. https://gripclad.co.uk/useful-information/what-is-grp/ Edited July 8, 2020 by doratheexplorer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerra Posted July 8, 2020 Report Share Posted July 8, 2020 37 minutes ago, MartynG said: U boaters using terminology like ''plastic'' doesn't help. ? There are submarines on the Trent? That's it I am never going again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 8, 2020 Report Share Posted July 8, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Jerra said: There are submarines on the Trent? That's it I am never going again. There was one many years ago on the Leeds and Liverpool. Edited July 8, 2020 by The Happy Nomad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerra Posted July 8, 2020 Report Share Posted July 8, 2020 Just now, The Happy Nomad said: There was one many years ago on the Leeds and Liverpool. Ah but was it friendly or U boat? a Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beerbeerbeerbeerbeer Posted July 8, 2020 Report Share Posted July 8, 2020 29 minutes ago, sirweste said: The P stands for Potato. As other's have said, what happened before this incident is utterly irrelevant. Hope the potato boat person in charge gets dragged through whatever punishment is available. If the video recorder did something different then that should be dealt with too of course. If two Potatoes can’t see eye to eye and wanna go at each other half baked then hopefully they’ll get the roasting they deserve. It’s the other spuds that could get mashed in their wake I feel sorry for. 24 minutes ago, The Happy Nomad said: There was one many years ago on the Leeds and Liverpool. Ha, that revives an old story. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doratheexplorer Posted July 8, 2020 Report Share Posted July 8, 2020 7 minutes ago, Goliath said: If two Potatoes can’t see eye to eye and wanna go at each other half baked then hopefully they’ll get the roasting they deserve. It’s the other spuds that could get mashed in their wake I feel sorry for. Ha, that revives an old story. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3033317/Self-styled-U-boat-captain-lived-narrowboat-converted-look-like-German-submarine-facing-jail-1million-VAT-fraud.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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