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hi all 

 

sorry to keep asking things that might already be on here but just need a little help 

 

my paint is looking a bit faded and could do with a lick of paint. 

a good friend owns a painting and decorating company (never painted a boat though) and offered to help paint it with me

 

he has looked into a few paints that will do the job 

 

can anyone recommend any paint? what are the best makes? 

 

thanks

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Painting boats with boat "enamel" is a very different skill to painting houses. My step daughter is a professional artist so we got her to help with a bit of boat painting. It was terrible, she ladelled it on thick and slow like she was doing an oil painting.

 

..............Dave

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Brands....Craftsmaster, International, Epifanes(I dont particularly like).....non brands mixed by paint specialists...Masons P-type, Symphony Paints are good at replication of colours and BS or RAL codes.

Or you can do like the boat we have just spent 2 weeks stripping back to metal and paint Weathershield for 30 plus years.

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19 minutes ago, mrsmelly said:

SML, very good quality without a ridiculous price tag.

Just had a look at SML, it looks interesting, its £20 per Litre PLUS VAT plus £10 postage. Craftmaster is "ridiculous" at just under £30 but you can often get it at canalside chandlers so no postage. I s'pose for a big order the SML might make sense. Teamac is another cheaper paint.

International Toplac is very popular but note their "litre" pots are actually 750ml so it works out a little more expensive than Craftmaster.

 

I just got a load of Craftmaster and some ridiculous Purdy brushes. Another ten year of practice and I will be half as good as Phil Speight.

 

..............Dave

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1 minute ago, dmr said:

Just had a look at SML, it looks interesting, its £20 per Litre PLUS VAT plus £10 postage. Craftmaster is "ridiculous" at just under £30 but you can often get it at canalside chandlers so no postage. I s'pose for a big order the SML might make sense. Teamac is another cheaper paint.

International Toplac is very popular but note their "litre" pots are actually 750ml so it works out a little more expensive than Craftmaster.

 

I just got a load of Craftmaster and some ridiculous Purdy brushes. Another ten year of practice and I will be half as good as Phil Speight.

 

..............Dave

I have purdy brushes lol. To be fair they are good value. Sml are great and instantly reply to emails and always deliver next working day. 

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Budget for a litre a coat for the roof, and a litre a coat for each side.

For topcoats...this gets complicated when you have sides with different colour panels, and coachlines. 

Front and back ends, add a litre of each colour.

We usually order an additional tin of each colour as a touch up tin for the proud boat owner.

Dont forget to make sure you have a decent primer first. 

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1 hour ago, dmr said:

Just had a look at SML, it looks interesting, its £20 per Litre PLUS VAT plus £10 postage. Craftmaster is "ridiculous" at just under £30 but you can often get it at canalside chandlers so no postage. I s'pose for a big order the SML might make sense. Teamac is another cheaper paint.

International Toplac is very popular but note their "litre" pots are actually 750ml so it works out a little more expensive than Craftmaster.

 

I just got a load of Craftmaster and some ridiculous Purdy brushes. Another ten year of practice and I will be half as good as Phil Speight.

 

..............Dave

I assume that you are  referring to the price. However, my experience suggests that in the long term they are not only of outstanding quality, but exceptional value for money. Twenty years ago Phil Speight advised me to use Purdy brushes, so I bought three boxes of them. Most of them are still in the boxes, despite two of them having been used numerous times during the past twenty without any degredation. One of their key qualities is that unlike all other brushes Ihave used, they do not shed bristles, and they are better than any other brush I have used for laying off.

 

 

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My boat was painted from new in International Toplac. After 12 years the blue had faded, but not the cream. The red (handrails, coachlines and front deck) had cracked and crazed.

 

It had lasted so well that I had it repainted in the same paint last year. Many boats only last 5-10 years between repaints.

 

The painter reckoned the red had cracked and crazed because of the wrong undercoat. Time will tell.

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The point I would make is if you will use a wet dock giving a controlled environment and going right back to bare metal, then it seems foolish not to use a good (expensive) paint.  If like me you will do it on the canal tow path, fixing the rusty bits, then a quick abrade all over before painting with lots of insects and some dust and the odd leaf landing on the wet paint then seems a waste to buy the (expansive) paint that gives an excellent finish.  In which case a good oil based exterior metal paint is the way to go.  Last time I used Dulux.  I hate water based gloss.

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