WotEver Posted June 27, 2020 Report Share Posted June 27, 2020 10 minutes ago, reg said: Problem with that is that you cannot use that door for egress as the bolts cannot by put in place from the outside. Eh? You close the door that has the shoot bolts. You reach behind it and shoot upper and lower bolts. You slam the other door shut. ... you remember that you’ve left the keys on the boat... Along with a pair of shoot bolts for the slide, that’s exactly the system I installed on WotEver after levering off the flimsy hasp that was on it when we bought her. Obviously this system doesn’t work for those slides that lift over the doors and lip over them at the top. Well, it works fine for the doors but you still have to secure the slide. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reg Posted June 27, 2020 Report Share Posted June 27, 2020 (edited) 11 minutes ago, WotEver said: Eh? You close the door that has the shoot bolts. You reach behind it and shoot upper and lower bolts. You slam the other door shut. ... you remember that you’ve left the keys on the boat... Along with a pair of shoot bolts for the slide, that’s exactly the system I installed on WotEver after levering off the flimsy hasp that was on it when we bought her. Obviously this system doesn’t work for those slides that lift over the doors and lip over them at the top. Well, it works fine for the doors but you still have to secure the slide. Absolutely totaly agree which is why I already removing my answer as you were posting. Forgot my mantra of think it through before posting not whilst posting. Although I believe this mantra is not acceptable on some social media platforms. I still prefer my garage door type locks as they can be used in conjunction with a sliding hatch. Personal preference. Edited June 27, 2020 by reg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gravy Boater Posted August 6, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 6, 2020 Lots of interesting posts. The solution I finally went for involves steel-on-steel locking mechanisms inside and out for the side hatch, front and rear doors... the internal stuff takes a moment, can be done blindfolded (I've tried) and doesn't involve me carrying a key. Thanks all, job done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan de Enfield Posted August 6, 2020 Report Share Posted August 6, 2020 5 minutes ago, The Gravy Boater said: the internal stuff takes a moment, can be done blindfolded (I've tried) Ahhhh - but the question is "can it be un-done blindfolded ?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gravy Boater Posted August 6, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 6, 2020 1 minute ago, Alan de Enfield said: Ahhhh - but the question is "can it be un-done blindfolded ?" The doing would be more complicated than the undoing... so that would be a yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEO Posted August 7, 2020 Report Share Posted August 7, 2020 On 24/06/2020 at 17:50, Jen-in-Wellies said: No. They are a proper key with lots of permutations and reasonably hard to pick. Some neighbours use them for their boat. Not like the ones you illustrated for internal doors. Jen Agree with you, they are good locks, with individual keys for each lock.well designed, useful video on uTube to show how to fit them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard10002 Posted August 7, 2020 Report Share Posted August 7, 2020 On 24/06/2020 at 14:45, Terryb said: Iv'e just fitted an Enfield type garage door bolt to my hatch. I have to say, it's the doggies danglers. Especially since now, you cant tell if It is locked or unlocked. If you could get these with a knob turn on one side, (the internal side), I think they would be ideal. I can only find them with a keyed lock on both sides Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEO Posted August 8, 2020 Report Share Posted August 8, 2020 19 hours ago, Richard10002 said: If you could get these with a knob turn on one side, (the internal side), I think they would be ideal. I can only find them with a keyed lock on both sides Yes, the same key can be used both sides, they are basically designed for garage doors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchcrawler Posted August 8, 2020 Report Share Posted August 8, 2020 45 minutes ago, LEO said: Yes, the same key can be used both sides, they are basically designed for garage doors. I take it you can't have a key in both sides at the same time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEO Posted August 8, 2020 Report Share Posted August 8, 2020 23 minutes ago, ditchcrawler said: I take it you can't have a key in both sides at the same time Not so far as I am aware, I have used these on standard framed ledged and braced doors successfully and had no problems inserting the key either side, although if the timber door is too thick you have to modify the fitting of the lock a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard10002 Posted August 8, 2020 Report Share Posted August 8, 2020 2 hours ago, ditchcrawler said: I take it you can't have a key in both sides at the same time I wondered about welding, or glueing, a key on the inside, but my guess is that you are right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEO Posted August 9, 2020 Report Share Posted August 9, 2020 (edited) 21 hours ago, Richard10002 said: I wondered about welding, or glueing, a key on the inside, but my guess is that you are right. The problem is the lock mechanism is contained in a metal box held in place by two bolts (see original pics), the individual key takes up most of the thickness on this box and it would be difficult to fix a turnscrew onto the internal face of the lock. It should be easy to keep a key inserted internally if and when needed, but it would have to be removed to lock the door externally. Edited August 9, 2020 by LEO spilling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyG Posted August 22, 2020 Report Share Posted August 22, 2020 When I am inside I use a curb chain [former horsey person] with a D shackle [former salty sailor], these are in addition to locks, but they make a good intruder alert, and safe easy to remove from inside. I have an Abus with hatch and hasp on the stern, impregnable, the front doors are the weakness, an internal bolt plus a yale nightlatch, plus chain will make life difficult for the scrots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightwatch Posted August 22, 2020 Report Share Posted August 22, 2020 Are the windows protected? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyG Posted August 25, 2020 Report Share Posted August 25, 2020 On 22/08/2020 at 10:19, Nightwatch said: Are the windows protected? Simple locks but no bars On 22/08/2020 at 10:19, Nightwatch said: Are the windows protected? Simple locks but no bars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Authority924 Posted April 29, 2022 Report Share Posted April 29, 2022 (edited) Never spend too much time to figure out a problem with the lock, if I can fix it in the next 5-10 minutes, well that's great, if not, I am calling the east london locksmith Edited April 29, 2022 by Authority924 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracy D'arth Posted April 29, 2022 Report Share Posted April 29, 2022 15 minutes ago, Authority924 said: Never spend too much time to figure out a problem with the lock, if I can fix it in the next 5-10 minutes, well that's great, if not, I am calling the east london locksmith Would they come and fix the locks on the Leeds- Liverpool canal? C&RT would love to know. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Authority924 Posted April 29, 2022 Report Share Posted April 29, 2022 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Authority924 said: Never spend too much time to figure out a problem with the lock, if I can fix it in the next 5-10 minutes, well that's great, if not, I am calling the east london locksmith 8 minutes ago, Tracy D'arth said: Would they come and fix the locks on the Leeds- Liverpool canal? C&RT would love to know. Why not? I think they can, as far as I know they are Locksmith on call and they are available to come at your place Edited April 29, 2022 by Authority924 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan de Enfield Posted April 29, 2022 Report Share Posted April 29, 2022 27 minutes ago, Authority924 said: Never spend too much time to figure out a problem with the lock, if I can fix it in the next 5-10 minutes, well that's great, if not, I am calling the east london locksmith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gravy Boater Posted July 27, 2022 Author Report Share Posted July 27, 2022 Not to necro this thread but anyone who has watched Lockpicking Lawyer on that YouTube will understand that nothing is even remotely secure. All you can do is deter because if someone really wants to get into your boat, they will. We should probably all concentrate more on the pithy insulting note we will leave for the burglars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtB Posted July 27, 2022 Report Share Posted July 27, 2022 1 hour ago, The Gravy Boater said: Not to necro this thread but anyone who has watched Lockpicking Lawyer on that YouTube will understand that nothing is even remotely secure. All you can do is deter because if someone really wants to get into your boat, they will. We should probably all concentrate more on the pithy insulting note we will leave for the burglars. "Locksport" is a whole load more difficult than the LPL makes it look! I know having wasted several hundred hours learning how to pick even the most basic locks. A lot of it is luck. On a given lock I might crack it is 20 seconds. Then close it and spend several weeks trying to do it again. Or I might do it in an hour. Or 20 seconds again. I doubt many boat burglars rely on lock picking skills, a cordless angle grinder is far quicker and certain. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gravy Boater Posted July 29, 2022 Author Report Share Posted July 29, 2022 On 27/07/2022 at 19:06, MtB said: "Locksport" is a whole load more difficult than the LPL makes it look! I know having wasted several hundred hours learning how to pick even the most basic locks. A lot of it is luck. On a given lock I might crack it is 20 seconds. Then close it and spend several weeks trying to do it again. Or I might do it in an hour. Or 20 seconds again. I doubt many boat burglars rely on lock picking skills, a cordless angle grinder is far quicker and certain. We all need a hobby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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