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35 minutes ago, Iain_S said:

There is a statutory defence to being drunk in charge of a motor vehicle if it can be shown that there was no likelyhood of the vehicle being driven before the driver is under the limit. I believe the usually quoted case involved a chap sleeping in his car in a pub car park. 

I believe there are a couple of conditions :

The keys must not be in the ignition.

The keys must not be in the 'drunks' hand.

 

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I believe they passed a very specific law in the late 19th century, against being intoxicated in charge of a vessel in the Pool of London (ie between Tower Bridge and London Bridge) after a sailing ship passed through Tower Bridge without its drunken master noticing that fact, and then proceeded to sail straight into London Bridge with the master confidently expecting it to open up for him.

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29 minutes ago, Heartland said:

I wonder if the CRT and other waterway owners have a bye law regarding steering a craft whilst intoxicated.

Yes - CRT Bye law 44 for example is :-

 

Intoxicated
persons

44. No person shall navigate any vessel on any canal or take any
part in the navigation, mooring or handling of any vessel on the
canal whilst under the influence of drink to such an extent as to
be incapable of having proper control of the vessel.

 

Howard

 

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28 minutes ago, howardang said:

Yes - CRT Bye law 44 for example is :-

 

Intoxicated
persons

44. No person shall navigate any vessel on any canal or take any
part in the navigation, mooring or handling of any vessel on the
canal whilst under the influence of drink to such an extent as to
be incapable of having proper control of the vessel.

 

Howard

 

And if nothing goes wrong how do you prove  that

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1 hour ago, Heartland said:

I wonder if the CRT and other waterway owners have a bye law regarding steering a craft whilst intoxicated.

Just ask & ye shall be informed :

 

BW By-Laws 1965

 

Intoxicated persons
44. No person shall navigate any vessel on any canal or take any
part in the navigation, mooring or handling of any vessel on the
canal whilst under the influence of drink to such an extent as to
be incapable of having proper control of the vessel.

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14 hours ago, Alan de Enfield said:

The keys must not be in the 'drunks' hand.

Which puts the "drunk" in an awkward position in how they actually got into the vehicle (given that most have the same keys for ignition and door)

 

Which is relevant to a boat owner coming back from the pub with a cork float which will (probably) have both access and ignition (and BWB toilet and...) on a single keyring.

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7 minutes ago, 1st ade said:

Which puts the "drunk" in an awkward position in how they actually got into the vehicle (given that most have the same keys for ignition and door)

Most people these days have a 'clicker', simply put your hand in your pocket and press the button as you approach the car.

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42 minutes ago, Alan de Enfield said:

Just ask & ye shall be informed :

 

BW By-Laws 1965

 

Intoxicated persons
44. No person shall navigate any vessel on any canal or take any
part in the navigation, mooring or handling of any vessel on the
canal whilst under the influence of drink to such an extent as to
be incapable of having proper control of the vessel.

Nice to see we agree!?

 

Howard

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1 hour ago, Alan de Enfield said:

Most people these days have a 'clicker', simply put your hand in your pocket and press the button as you approach the car.

But the "clicker" (at least on cheap Fiesta's!) is part of the key - therefore to press the clicker is to have the key in your hand!

 

(and it gets even more ambiguous with keyless ignition where the key only has to be within [or near] the vehicle to allow starting - "Honest officer I wasn't going to drive" - "yes sir, they all say that, you had the key about your person within two metres of the vehicle")

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2 hours ago, 1st ade said:

But the "clicker" (at least on cheap Fiesta's!) is part of the key - therefore to press the clicker is to have the key in your hand!

 

(and it gets even more ambiguous with keyless ignition where the key only has to be within [or near] the vehicle to allow starting - "Honest officer I wasn't going to drive" - "yes sir, they all say that, you had the key about your person within two metres of the vehicle")

 

The Memsahib's remote keyless entry only unlocks when you put your hand on the door handle. I believe that is a common feature on VAG cars.

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