John Lewis Posted April 4, 2020 Report Share Posted April 4, 2020 Hello all, I've recently brought and installed my first refleks stove. very pleased with it, having lit the stove and felt around it the heat seems to come only from the top. The sides are almost cool to the touch. Does this mean protective boards are not needed to pass a cert? thanks for replies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbo Posted April 4, 2020 Report Share Posted April 4, 2020 Bit late now you've installed it to be asking. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lewis Posted April 4, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 4, 2020 Its not really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan de Enfield Posted April 4, 2020 Report Share Posted April 4, 2020 38 minutes ago, John Lewis said: Does this mean protective boards are not needed to pass a cert? There is no requirement in the BSS to have 'protective boards' read section 8:4 & 8:5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
koukouvagia Posted April 4, 2020 Report Share Posted April 4, 2020 This is one of the great advantages of a Refleks. You can position it much closer to the surround than with a conventional fire. However, you have to be careful with the siting of the flu - it gets very hot and needs the proper protection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrsmelly Posted April 5, 2020 Report Share Posted April 5, 2020 14 hours ago, koukouvagia said: This is one of the great advantages of a Refleks. You can position it much closer to the surround than with a conventional fire. However, you have to be careful with the siting of the flu - it gets very hot and needs the proper protection. If the stove doesn't get hot how does it heat the cabin? Or do they need to be connected to radiaters? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jen-in-Wellies Posted April 5, 2020 Report Share Posted April 5, 2020 26 minutes ago, mrsmelly said: If the stove doesn't get hot how does it heat the cabin? Or do they need to be connected to radiaters? Maybe it is a very safe design. Doesn't let any heat out at all, except from the top of the flue. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
koukouvagia Posted April 5, 2020 Report Share Posted April 5, 2020 1 hour ago, mrsmelly said: If the stove doesn't get hot how does it heat the cabin? Or do they need to be connected to radiaters? The cast iron lid on the fire, which is well away from walls, gets hot and radiates a lot of heat. It's very good for doing casseroles etc. I have mine connected to radiators and a calorifier. As mentioned above the flue gets hot. That's why it's important to protect the walls near it. The body of the fire never gets much hotter than hand-hot and the surrounding walls are only warm to the touch. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbo Posted April 5, 2020 Report Share Posted April 5, 2020 3 hours ago, mrsmelly said: If the stove doesn't get hot how does it heat the cabin? Or do they need to be connected to radiaters? It uses convection, if you look at the design there are two skins, the outer has holes for airflow.. The outer skin doesn't get that hot, but the inner will hot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lewis Posted April 6, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 6, 2020 On 05/04/2020 at 11:16, koukouvagia said: The cast iron lid on the fire, which is well away from walls, gets hot and radiates a lot of heat. It's very good for doing casseroles etc. I have mine connected to radiators and a calorifier. As mentioned above the flue gets hot. That's why it's important to protect the walls near it. The body of the fire never gets much hotter than hand-hot and the surrounding walls are only warm to the touch. Yes was thinking just plate up the wall behind the flu, with a silicate board. Could Ask how the system of radiators and calorifier works... I have the 2000Kv model so with water jacket... thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan de Enfield Posted April 6, 2020 Report Share Posted April 6, 2020 1 minute ago, John Lewis said: I have the 2000Kv model so with water jacket... Are you sure ? That's 2,000,000 ( 2 million) Volts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtB Posted April 6, 2020 Report Share Posted April 6, 2020 On 05/04/2020 at 10:35, Jen-in-Wellies said: Maybe it is a very safe design. Doesn't let any heat out at all, except from the top of the flue. ? Especially not if a twin wall flue is fitted, like that stoopid BSS document demands... All heat safely ducted to outside, where it can do no harm. Phew!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrsmelly Posted April 6, 2020 Report Share Posted April 6, 2020 3 minutes ago, Mike the Boilerman said: Especially not if a twin wall flue is fitted, like that stoopid BSS document demands... All heat safely ducted to outside, where it can do no harm. Phew!! Where does it say that Mike? I hope they realise how stupid it is. Had my boat MOT last month and it went straight through without fault, never had a daft twin walled flue on any boat and certainly not on this one. Perhaps if we lagged the whole stove with some asbestos substitute a few inches thick then all the heat could go straight up the chimney and that would be super safe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtB Posted April 6, 2020 Report Share Posted April 6, 2020 34 minutes ago, mrsmelly said: Where does it say that Mike? Error, I meant that BS document about how to install a stove safely. http://soliftec.com/Boat Stoves 1-page.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrsmelly Posted April 6, 2020 Report Share Posted April 6, 2020 Just now, Mike the Boilerman said: Error, I meant that BS document about how to install a stove safely. http://soliftec.com/Boat Stoves 1-page.pdf Ahh cool, an extra s then!! I havnt seen that what you have linked but a quick squint does indeed show it to be utter testicles ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty40s Posted April 6, 2020 Report Share Posted April 6, 2020 1 hour ago, Mike the Boilerman said: Especially not if a twin wall flue is fitted, like that stoopid BSS document demands... All heat safely ducted to outside, where it can do no harm. Phew!! I will let Greta (who has been silenced) know you said that.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrsmelly Posted April 6, 2020 Report Share Posted April 6, 2020 1 minute ago, matty40s said: I will let Greta (who has been silenced) know you said that.... Ahhhh Greta, shes a bit like that Jockanese minister thats just resigned innitt. Do as I say, not as I do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenix_V Posted April 6, 2020 Report Share Posted April 6, 2020 On 05/04/2020 at 11:16, koukouvagia said: The body of the fire never gets much hotter than hand-hot and the surrounding walls are only warm to the touch. unless you let it go out and then relight it after the oil has continued to flow and vapourise it then gets quite hot for a short and exciting time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jen-in-Wellies Posted April 6, 2020 Report Share Posted April 6, 2020 4 hours ago, Alan de Enfield said: Are you sure ? That's 2,000,000 ( 2 million) Volts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
koukouvagia Posted April 7, 2020 Report Share Posted April 7, 2020 (edited) 18 hours ago, John Lewis said: Could Ask how the system of radiators and calorifier works... There are many different ways of doing this, depending on the layout of the boat. The system below worked perfectly. To heat up radiators quickly, isolate the calorifier. To heat up the calorifier quickly - e.g. in summer, shut off radiators and divert hot water through the calorifier. Make sure each radiator has its own flow and return. Not shown is an automatic bleed valve, which is fitted on the highest part of the system/ Edited April 7, 2020 by koukouvagia 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lewis Posted April 13, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 13, 2020 Is the water jacket in stove not the heater tank? Does this heater tank sit physically up high, or is that just your drawing? how many litres... Im just thinking one more rad at stern of boat, and a clarifier for shower. cheers kouk, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotEver Posted April 13, 2020 Report Share Posted April 13, 2020 1 hour ago, John Lewis said: Is the water jacket in stove not the heater tank? Header tank, not heater tank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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