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46 minutes ago, Alway Swilby said:

No, I wasn't stirring but I see your point. The web site I took it from just says "What remains open" with no distinction between retail premises and businesses. Lets look at another way, this is a list of "Ordered to close" which is not a just list of retail premises.  I would say that Canal boat hire bases comes under the Caravan parks / Sites for commercial use but perhaps Wyvern saw it differently.

Ordered to close

  • Restaurants and cafes (exceptions: they can offer food delivery and takeaway)

  • Workplace canteens (exceptions: canteens in hospitals, care homes, schools, prisons and military canteens, services providing food or drink to the homeless)

  • Pubs

  • Bars and nightclubs including bars in hotels and members clubs

  • Hair, beauty and nail salons

  • Piercing and tattoo parlours

  • Massage parlours

  • Auction houses

  • Car showrooms

  • Caravan parks/sites for commercial use (exceptions: Parks where people live permanently or those used by people as interim abodes where their primary residence is not available)

  • Libraries

  • Playgrounds

  • Outdoor gyms

  • All shops selling non-essential goods including clothing and electronic stores.

  • Community centres, youth centres (exceptions: Halls may remain open to host essential voluntary or public services such as food banks and facilities for homeless people)

  • Churches, mosques and places of worship (exceptions – they can remain open for “solitary prayer”, funerals with social distancing – the mourners two metres apart and for live streaming)

  • Cinemas (exceptions: live-streaming of a performance if the group of workers exercise social distancing)

  • Museums and galleries

  • Bingo halls

  • Casinos and betting shops

  • Spas

  • Skating rinks

  • Gyms

  • Swimming pools

  • Playgrounds

  • Enclosed spaces in parks including tennis courts and pitches for football, bowling etc, and outdoor gyms (equipment could become contaminated by human touch)

  • Prisons in England and Wales are closed to visitors

 

 

I just noticed the Massage Parlours are closed, thats bit of a blow

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1 hour ago, mrsmelly said:

It's a tough one to seem to be fair isn't it. Bicycle shops can stay open presumably for exercise but sports shops can't. Home base etc can presumably for leisure stuff to help with mental health but most other shops must shut down. Online shopping which was already killing lots of stores as they will grow hugely and many will stay doing it all online ehen this lot is over. Very tough times. 

They are a form of transport and need spares or repairs. I need a replacment tire for the bike, ordered from E-bay for click & collect at Argos. Argos now shut until futher notice.

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1 minute ago, Tonka said:

My daughter works in a vets so I think she knows more then your list?

If her workplace has decided to close that's up to them.  They certainly have not been instructed to by the government.

 

Check the official info from the link in my signature, not a snippet in someone else's posts.  It's fake news, even if it's well meant.

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8 minutes ago, Tonka said:

My daughter works in a vets so I think she knows more then your list?

What’s that supposed to mean?  Our vet is open for business. They sent the following to me:

If you have an appointment or need to visit the practice, we would be grateful if you could support us in the following ways:

 

  • If you are self-isolating or displaying any coronavirus symptoms, please ask a non-affected family member or friend to bring your pet to see us
  • If your pet needs treatment and you have nobody to help you, please visit the practice and call the number on the door and our team will be happy to assist you over the phone to arrange care for your pet
  • Please can we request that only one person accompany your pet to the practice
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1 hour ago, mrsmelly said:

Funnily enough, surprise suprise Wyvern no longer hiring till end of May. 

Lots if not all the yards are doing the same. They have no real choice.

 

I suspect the boats spotted out on the cut by the OP were already on hire when the decision to close was taken and are returning to base or are completing their holiday and then doing so.

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1 hour ago, Tony Brooks said:

What you have to remember is that if a Hire Company cancels the holiday the hirer gets their money back. If the company messes about so the hirer obeys government orders/advice and cancels their holiday its the hirer that looses all their money.

Then the Govt should legislate against it.  But if a non-essential movement ban is dictated by Govt is it proper for a hire company to facilitate such movement by not calling their boats back immediately.

 

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Just now, The Happy Nomad said:

Lots if not all the yards are doing the same. They have no real choice.

 

I suspect the boats spotted out on the cut by the OP were already on hire when the decision to close was taken and are returning to base or are completing their holiday and then doing so.

If they are completing their holiday then they are surely undertaking non-essential travel. Taking the boast straight back to the hire yard is of course reasonable.

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1 minute ago, Bobbybass said:

Have you seen that they have found active virus on the Diamond Princess...17 days after the passengers left !.. Hire boats could still harbour this regardless of how much cleaning they do. 

What about the crew one of them could be the carrier

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1 hour ago, Tony Brooks said:

What you have to remember is that if a Hire Company cancels the holiday the hirer gets their money back. If the company messes about so the hirer obeys government orders/advice and cancels their holiday its the hirer that looses all their money.

Not neccessarily.

 

Lots of hire companies were giving the option to move holidays even before the stricter restrictions kicked in yesterday. Without penalty too. Lots of businesses are doing similar. 

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1 minute ago, Traveller said:

Then the Govt should legislate against it.  But if a non-essential movement ban is dictated by Govt is it proper for a hire company to facilitate it by not calling their boats back immediately whilst ceasing all hire operations immediately?

 

My mate has closed his hire bases a day or so b4 the lock down he has offered everybody a choice of their deposit back or to defer their holiday and given discounts on top. Sensible companies will do all they can to help. Cart are helping all canal based companies with rent etc. 

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Just now, mrsmelly said:

My mate has closed his hire bases a day or so b4 the lock down he has offered everybody a choice of their deposit back or to defer their holiday and given discounts on top. Sensible companies will do all they can to help. Cart are helping all canal based companies with rent etc. 

That is really good to hear.

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6 minutes ago, Bobbybass said:

Have you seen that they have found active virus on the Diamond Princess...17 days after the passengers left !.. Hire boats could still harbour this regardless of how much cleaning they do. 

Hadn't seen that. It could be the staff working on there and cleaning are keeping it alive and reproducing over the days?? 

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13 minutes ago, Traveller said:

If they are completing their holiday then they are surely undertaking non-essential travel. Taking the boast straight back to the hire yard is of course reasonable.

Well I guess it depends on how long they have  left, how far away they are and if they are headed in the correct direction, they still have to move the boat to get back to base.

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Yes - but it should be a determined effort to get back as fast as possible, not using the journey as part of the holiday. Personally I am not sure how long they have left has anything to do with it. It must be a case of turn around and come straight back....like immediately. Therefore what they have left is the length of time an as fast as possible return to the yard takes.

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2 minutes ago, Traveller said:

Yes - but it should be a determined effort to get back as fast as possible, not using the journey as part of the holiday. Personally I am not sure how long they have left has anything to do with it. It must be a case of turn around and come straight back....like immediately. Therefore what they have left is the length of time an as fast as possible return to the yard takes.

And we know this is not what they are doing?

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Hi am new member.. Been lurking for years and finally joined.. Feel have to comment on this thread.. Saw one of the wyvern boats in Milton Keynes this afternoon... Heading north away from base.. Called wyvern was told they had told them to return.. Said they are not complying and just passed 2 winding holes and marina entrance where they could have turned. They found that amusing. Apparently they key 4 boats go out yesterday afternoon... 

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8 minutes ago, dabchic23 said:

Hi am new member.. Been lurking for years and finally joined.. Feel have to comment on this thread.. Saw one of the wyvern boats in Milton Keynes this afternoon... Heading north away from base.. Called wyvern was told they had told them to return.. Said they are not complying and just passed 2 winding holes and marina entrance where they could have turned. They found that amusing. Apparently they key 4 boats go out yesterday afternoon... 

Naughty.

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Appreciate some boats were already out and that yesterday's hirers were borderline with government advice issued I believe albeit as a suggestion on Sunday. It is what it is but as we all need to be in this together I could not understand why this particular hire boat was still heading away from base despite being requested to return.. Ignoring government advice has been part of the issue. At present assume liveaboard boats on move to position themselves nearer facilities but may be wrong. Don't think people will moan about boatyards closing - they need to protect themselves and others and hopefully CRT facilities will be OK. I appreciate that. Things are going to be difficult for us all. 

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1 minute ago, dabchic23 said:

Appreciate some boats were already out and that yesterday's hirers were borderline with government advice issued I believe albeit as a suggestion on Sunday. It is what it is but as we all need to be in this together I could not understand why this particular hire boat was still heading away from base despite being requested to return.. Ignoring government advice has been part of the issue. At present assume liveaboard boats on move to position themselves nearer facilities but may be wrong. Don't think people will moan about boatyards closing - they need to protect themselves and others and hopefully CRT facilities will be OK. I appreciate that. Things are going to be difficult for us all. 

When I was involved with hire fleets, another forum member went to a set of dick heads on a boat in Thrupp. He removed their keys and we went down next morning when they were sober and hoofed them off and took boat back to the yard. 

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1 hour ago, Rose Narrowboats said:

For the record, we had five boats out prior to this weekend, all sent out before any boating restrictions or even pub closures were in place.

 

Two of those have now returned. A third (out since the beginning of February) was at Cropredy this morning and will be back by Thursday evening.

 

The remaining two are crewed by entirely unrelated couples from New Zealand who currently have nowhere else to go. As of this morning they are mulling over whether to return to base and live here for the next few months or hunker down where they are (one of which is a fair way north having already been out for a while), which will depend on the likelihood of continued availability of essential services where they are vs. how much grief they will get from people jumping to conclusions if they boat back.

 

I note that here today there are still a number of private boats moving too but no one complaining about that, and forgive me if this sounds bitter, but I expect there'll be a thread on here soon complaining that all the boatyards are shut and how dare we as we're an essential service, probably started by the same people who normally post advice on avoiding boatyards at all costs as they're too expensive. Rant over :)

 

Incidentally, if anyone needs fuel round here, I spoke with Rue at Armada Boat Hire this morning and he's going to stay open for fuel for the foreseeable, and if it gets to a point where he's unable to continue we'll pick up the baton.

There are people out there who think their role in life is to stab you in the back, try to shrug it off, they are not your customers. don't bother about them.

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