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This afternoon 2021

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Leeds Lock  A+C: outer gates; pedestrian bridge repairs; Crown Point Weir; bird on sign below the lock

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On this day in 2007

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Sheffield Basin (Victoria Quays) S&SYN

Working-days scene from an interpretation board

 

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On this day in 2006

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spacer.pngThe evening at Pero's Bridge Bristol Floating Harbour

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There were very few people on the streets of Bristol that evening, and the owner of a large boat moored on the adjacent pontoon shared his malts with us on the grounds that we were appreciative of the gesture and that the guests expected later that evening, for the barbecue on his back deck, would add lemonade.

 

The quietness of the streets was emphasised by occasional loud cheers and even louder groans from the surrounding bars.

 

The narrowboat below was at Warwickshire Fly by the  Kayes Arm  GU on this day in 2005.

 

The nice Mr Google remembers the connection.

 

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On 28/06/2021 at 13:11, Pluto said:

The incline and large canal replaced a 300 ton standard canal, which had replaced the narrow - 9 feet wide lock - canal that had been built to connect the Belgian coalfield around Mons and Charleroi with Brussels in the early 19th century. Unlike the UK, they had the space to enlarge their waterways, and sufficient water. A German canal engineer friend could not believe that the northern French canals were carrying 10 million tons annually because of the water needed for lockage. twenty years ago, another German contact, a professor of transport, was astounded when I told him the A&CN was carrying 4 million tons annually at that time. Many large canals in the Netherlands and around the Rhine only carry one million tons or so, and are considered an important part of the transport infrastructure. I always feel that the problem today for water transport in the UK is that the length of our suitable waterways are too short to cover the additional cost of loading and unloading from a boat.

 

 

Apologies for the belated follow-up - been away a few days. Surely the Aire & Calder escapes the lack-of-space argument? Or the problems of water supply? Here the primary trade in coal has gone, but an attempt is being made to sew the seeds of new industry. This will take traffic from our roads and add purpose and esteem to our waterway system that it currently lacks. If this works, other traffics could follow

 

This needs to be encouraged and supported, to overcome the widespread British perception that water-transport is out-of-date. Here is a role for the Inland Waterways Association to fulfill  - to tell people of such as the Zulu flat-bed barge system currently being developed in Belgium for pallet transportation, with a fork-lift facility on board. Just one example of a lesson from across the Channel. But who, outside of canal nuts like myself. knows of such a move?

 

Currently a 70,000 tonne contract on the A & C hangs in the balance, given the state in which the waterway has been allowed to subside. Let us not think of reasons why it does not matter, after all.

 

 

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Apologies for the belated follow-up - been away a few days. Surely the Aire & Calder escapes the lack-of-space argument? Or the problems of water supply? Here the primary trade in coal has gone, but an attempt is being made to sew the seeds of new industry. This will take traffic from our roads and add purpose and esteem to our waterway system that it currently lacks. If this works, other traffics could follow

 

This needs to be encouraged and supported, to overcome the widespread British perception that water-transport is out-of-date. Here is a role for the Inland Waterways Association to fulfill  - to tell people of such as the Zulu flat-bed barge system currently being developed in Belgium for pallet transportation, with a fork-lift facility on board. Just one example of a lesson from across the Channel. But who, outside of canal nuts like myself. knows of such a move?

 

Currently a 70,000 tonne contract on the A & C hangs in the balance, given the state in which the waterway has been allowed to subside. Let us not think of reasons why it does not matter, after all.

 

 

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I wasn't suggesting that it doesn't matter, but pointing out that, geographically, the UK is different to the European mainland. Our water resources are much smaller and the locations for modern inland waterways much more restricted. There is certainly a place for development of very specific traffics, but UK inland waterways cannot address national and international traffics in the same way as on the European mainland. The cost of loading and unloading makes it difficult to develop an economic argument for UK waterway improvement for internal traffics. Pallets are a possiblity, but today's UK brickfields are not in places suitable for water transport, and once something has to be put on a lorry, it may as well stay there for trips of a couple of hundred miles. Perhaps if industry was encouraged to move to sites suitable for good water transport, such as the lower Aire valley, the lower Severn and the Mersey, there would be an argument for improvements, but successive governments see service industries as more important than manufacturing, which effectively negates the need for inland water transport. There are not sufficient suitable waterways for improvement which serve areas which require such transport. Most of our larger waterways were improved to serve specific industries: export coal on the A&CN, salt on the Weaver; whilst the Severn was never improved properly because it did not serve such industries. The A&CN could be improved for River-Sea vessels trading into Europe, but I suspect Brexit will have put an end to that possibility unless a duty free port is developed alongside the A&CN or S&SYN.

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My wife sadly passed away after a short  illness a month ago and her last comprehensible words to me were "you are not staying in this house - you will rattle around in it and you won't look after it".

 

so I bought a ground floor apartment in the housing development surrounding Abingdon-on-Thames marina.   Sale completed on 30 June (just in time to benefit from the stamp duty holiday) and started to move my kit in yesterday.  The boat will follow when our big house is finally sold (asking price offer was accepted even before the estate agent could put it on the market!).

 

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