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10 minutes ago, TheBiscuits said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-europe-51900325/coronavirus-please-stay-at-home

 

So far.

Yep.  Let's see how carried away they get with handing out dream powers to the police and the security services.  There will be a lot of temptation to add fairly draconian powers at the whim of the Secretary of State into this "so we have them if we need them in the future" as the usual excuse goes.

Any powers are planned to have a sunset clause, current thinking is two years. Some think this is too long, so may be subject to further checks and balances.

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3 minutes ago, Phil. said:

Any powers are planned to have a sunset clause, current thinking is two years. Some think this is too long, so may be subject to further checks and balances.

For a moment I thought you meant that us oldies would only be allowed out after dark.

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24 minutes ago, Rob-M said:

The implications from the interview with Matt Hancock on Sky News this morning was that new laws would be passed this week to legally enforce isolating.

My views on this are pretty well set out in the other thread.

 

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9 minutes ago, Beo said:

I guess that there are plenty of leisure boaters on this forum who live near a canal who would be happy to help out boaters with food deliveries etc. 

That's probably true, and does reflect very well on the people on the forum.

 

It is quite a lot more likely that the boaters are the ones under 70 so might need to be the ones delivering food to the more elderly landlubbers!

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I feel like I am in isolation already I can go days and not speak to anyone. lol. i was ment to flying back to India tomorrow as i have a OCI card which means I travel there visa free as wife was born in india, but mid day Friday bang OCI also banned until 15/04/20 so stuck here over my birthday which is on the 13th.

At the moment stuck in Debdale marina cant go north landslide just outside marina and Foxton locks closed for another week so it will have to go to Market harbrough again just to get out and about for a trip.

 

keep safe all

 

Ken

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How they going to tell if someone's 69 or 71?  And who is going to do the telling?  Non-existent coppers arresting people with grey hair who cough in the street?  Maybe they'll co-opt traffic wardens...   I think we have to wait and see the legislation before we start worrying, but if you've got a temperature and a cough, you probably won't feel like going out anyway. There's hope for us - a lot of people on this forum and as far as I'm aware, none of us have even caught a mild dose yet.

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2 hours ago, mrsmelly said:

I am on bog standard stuff, blood pressure, kidneys, gout etc so that might well be the case. I am at present spending a lot of time in Yorkshire but am traveling to Oxford for my appointments and am not budging. Its that good were I am registered I aint transferring even temporary up here!!

The doctors up here are the only bad thing about Yorkshire, my doctor is in Wiltshire and I am not changing. I order my pills on line, nominate a pharmacy and the prescription arrives the next day. I do telephone consultations for most things. For other stuff I register as a temporary patient.

There is one problem:  if something is actually wrong then full medical care is available anywhere but standard "preventative maintenance" can only be done by the home surgery so I have to get there once a year for a blood test, luckily its got a train station and is roughly on the route between Yorkshire and the kids in Bristol.

 

...................Dave

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2 hours ago, TheBiscuits said:

Sounds like an excellent reason to move GPs if you are CCers.  Just make sure that your new GP can and will do electronic prescriptions.

 

It depends on your prescription how long you can get but the usual advice is no more than 3 months, and many GPs prefer to only give 2 months at a time.  It also depends how often your prescription changes - if it varies all the time then it's likely the GP won't prescribe too far ahead, but if you are the same tablets for years they are more likely to.

Yeah, but who would be daft enough to do that ... :D

 

Given the percentage of the canal network in England compared to Wales it would seem easier to have an address in England, at least for NHS purposes, especially if you are a water pikey boat without a home mooring.

I think you will find it's the local health authority that control the number of months at a time, not the GP.  The rate at which the government is , rightly, throwing money at the problem is such that 3 month perscriptions will be possible.

1 hour ago, Cheshire cat said:

There will be a shortage of hair dye next

That's easy     shave your head. Some of us don't have to.?

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Unless I'm reading the situation wrongly the whole idea of isolating those who are 70+ ( and that includes me) is to safeguard we oldies. Thus it makes sense to go along with isolation as far as possible. As for the detail, time will tell.

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47 minutes ago, Arthur Marshall said:

How they going to tell if someone's 69 or 71?  And who is going to do the telling?  Non-existent coppers arresting people with grey hair who cough in the street?  Maybe they'll co-opt traffic wardens...

 

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34 minutes ago, dmr said:

The doctors up here are the only bad thing about Yorkshire, my doctor is in Wiltshire and I am not changing. I order my pills on line, nominate a pharmacy and the prescription arrives the next day. I do telephone consultations for most things. For other stuff I register as a temporary patient.

There is one problem:  if something is actually wrong then full medical care is available anywhere but standard "preventative maintenance" can only be done by the home surgery so I have to get there once a year for a blood test, luckily its got a train station and is roughly on the route between Yorkshire and the kids in Bristol.

 

...................Dave

Bloomin eck Dave ONCE a year!! You must be a superfit old sod ? I have to see specialist every 6 weeks at present pus my own doctor. The only benefit I have found by being classed by my doctor in her words as " Very poorly " lol, is my specialist and my doctor phone me quite often, I dont need to phone and ask to see them ?

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8 minutes ago, mrsmelly said:

Bloomin eck Dave ONCE a year!! You must be a superfit old sod ? I have to see specialist every 6 weeks at present pus my own doctor. The only benefit I have found by being classed by my doctor in her words as " Very poorly " lol, is my specialist and my doctor phone me quite often, I dont need to phone and ask to see them ?

I've been pretty lucky, especially as I've always been a bit too fond of cheese and beer, but I do realise it can all change very quickly. High blood pressure runs in the family but the pills keep it well under control. I also get a touch of gout from time to time which is not funny at all. I don't like sport or gym stuff but I reckon boating and locking are a pretty active lifesyle, and since we moved our winter "home" from the K&A to Yorkshire the dog walks in the hills are pretty strenuous.  Life is a lottery and all you can do is tip the odds just a little in your favour, but too many very fit and healthy friends have gone, so I reckon I will just keep drinking the beer.

 

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2 hours ago, Phil. said:

Any powers are planned to have a sunset clause, current thinking is two years. Some think this is too long, so may be subject to further checks and balances.

Problem is, the House of Lords which is the sensible head of Parliament has an average age of 97 when they are all awake.

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1 hour ago, Slim said:

Unless I'm reading the situation wrongly the whole idea of isolating those who are 70+ ( and that includes me) is to safeguard we oldies. Thus it makes sense to go along with isolation as far as possible. As for the detail, time will tell.

That is the officially claimed reason, which has some credence, but the undelying reason is that if too many older people contract the virus, the NHS will not be able to cope because of long term inadequate resourcing.

 

 

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9 minutes ago, David Schweizer said:

That is the officially claimed reason, which has some credence, but the undel;ying reason is that if too many older people contract the virus, the NHS will not be able to cope because of long term inadequate resourcing.

Can't help but agree with you about inadequate funding over the years. 

As an individual I intend to be careful without getting paranoid. Looks like weeds won't stand a chance in my garden this year. As for the rust on the boat not quiet so sure. ?

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13 minutes ago, David Schweizer said:

That is the officially claimed reason, which has some credence, but the undel;ying reason is that if too many older people contract the virus, the NHS will not be able to cope because of long term inadequate resourcing.

Bottom line is the young get priority. 

 

"The world is yours, as well as ours, but in the last analysis, it is yours" 

Mao Tse Tung

 

 

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5 hours ago, CLAN1 said:

Hi, how do you get post code along the canal? Drs are limited to which pharmacy they will send to and will only allow one months supply, IF we are not allowed out how do we collect? Gov not thought this through. 

 

Whether they've thought it though it not, they're not going to stop their plans because of a tiny fraction of a % of people over 70 that live on boats don't fit into the plan.

33 minutes ago, David Schweizer said:

That is the officially claimed reason, which has some credence, but the undelying reason is that if too many older people contract the virus, the NHS will not be able to cope because of long term inadequate resourcing.

 

 

 

Yes that's it. But even with adequate resourcing over the years it's doubtful whether any health care system could cope with the a reasonable worst case coronavirus scenario.

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1 hour ago, Slim said:

Unless I'm reading the situation wrongly the whole idea of isolating those who are 70+ ( and that includes me) is to safeguard we oldies. Thus it makes sense to go along with isolation as far as possible. As for the detail, time will tell.

So we're being asked (not compelled) to isolate as much as we can, for our own good. Fair enough. Penalties are for those (of any age) who refuse a test if it's considered necessary or who, knowing they are infected, put others at risk. While I'd obviously much rather damn the Tories for incompetence and uncaringness, I think they've got this right so far and unlike other countries have resisted the urge to panic and make things worse. 

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2 hours ago, Arthur Marshall said:

. There's hope for us - a lot of people on this forum and as far as I'm aware, none of us have even caught a mild dose yet.

Nope. I've not had a dose yet and I've not caught this corona virus yet either.

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