Over 70s isolation

[CLAN1]

If over 70s are not allowed out, how will we get shopping, boat storage does not allow stockpile of goods , fridge doesn't allow masses of food, stores delivery two + weeks, also charge, thats if they will deliver along the cut, don't have relative's near to help, so What do folk do? How do we get the medication we need?

[TheBiscuits]

The supermarkets do deliver to canalside if you can find access and give them a postcode.  Pharmacies should be able to do the same.

 

Is it going to be a huge pain in the backside? Yes.

 

Is it better than asking the government to help and being quarantined in a cheap hotel that they have commandeered for the summer? Hell yes.

 

The government won't have thought about liveaboard boats at all - they didn't during the Foot & Mouth outbreak when the countryside was shut.

[tree monkey]

5 minutes ago, CLAN1 said:

If over 70s are not allowed out, how will we get shopping, boat storage does not allow stockpile of goods , fridge doesn't allow masses of food, stores delivery two + weeks, also charge, thats if they will deliver along the cut, don't have relative's near to help, so What do folk do? How do we get the medication we need?

Most supermarkets will deliver but the slots are filling up fast so you may not get your preference, I am sure pharmacys will either deliver or allow you to pick up as normal.

If you start to feel ill moor nr a service block maybe find somewhere with some neighbours and frankly dont worry

[CLAN1]

30 minutes ago, TheBiscuits said:

The supermarkets do deliver to canalside if you can find access and give them a postcode.  Pharmacies should be able to do the same.

 

Is it going to be a huge pain in the backside? Yes.

 

Is it better than asking the government to help and being quarantined in a cheap hotel that they have commandeered for the summer? Hell yes.

 

The government won't have thought about liveaboard boats at all - they didn't during the Foot & Mouth outbreak when the countryside was shut.

Hi, how do you get post code along the canal? Drs are limited to which pharmacy they will send to and will only allow one months supply, IF we are not allowed out how do we collect? Gov not thought this through. 

[Guest]

50 minutes ago, CLAN1 said:

If over 70s are not allowed out, how will we get shopping, boat storage does not allow stockpile of goods , fridge doesn't allow masses of food, stores delivery two + weeks, also charge, thats if they will deliver along the cut, don't have relative's near to help, so What do folk do? How do we get the medication we need?

If you can provide a postcode and access Tesco will definitely deliver to boats (subject to area). You need to register an additional address with a local street/road to you where you are along with a mobile number they can ring you on if they need to. So you may need to move the boat to collect your shopping.

 

Lots of local pharmacies will deliver too. You might need to ring one local to you to check they will deliver under the same circumsstances. Get your GP to send your prescription electronically to them.

Edited March 15, 2020 by The Happy Nomad

[mrsmelly]

6 minutes ago, CLAN1 said:

Hi, how do you get post code along the canal? Drs are limited to which pharmacy they will send to and will only allow one months supply, IF we are not allowed out how do we collect? Gov not thought this through. 

You can pick medication up at any pharmacy anywhere. I did it this week and many times in the past. 

[Mike Tee]

There is nothing ‘allowed’ about the over 70’s suggestion- if there is no alternative, if you do not have friends and / or family to help, then you go out and do what is necessary, the important thing is to be sensible - avoid crowds, keep hygiene at the top of the list etc etc.

You will not be arrested for going out - if anybody suggests you will be, they are talking bollox.

[TheBiscuits]

5 minutes ago, CLAN1 said:

Hi, how do you get post code along the canal? 

Moor at a pub etc and use theirs.

 

6 minutes ago, CLAN1 said:

Drs are limited to which pharmacy they will send to and will only allow one months supply,

No, they can send a prescription to any pharmacy in the country, and they will usually do 2 months at a time (depends on your medications - some are more tightly controlled)  You do need to set this up IN ADVANCE though, and the best way is to do it online and ask the PHARMACY NOT THE GP to set themselves up for your prescriptions at least a week before you need the next one.

 

2 minutes ago, Mike Tee said:

You will not be arrested for going out - if anybody suggests you will be, they are talking bollox.

Let's see what the details are next week when the new laws get published.  We hope not to lose all our civil liberties, but there will be some significant emergency powers granted in the next couple of weeks.

[tree monkey]

13 minutes ago, CLAN1 said:

Hi, how do you get post code along the canal? Drs are limited to which pharmacy they will send to and will only allow one months supply, IF we are not allowed out how do we collect? Gov not thought this through. 

Google will provide a postcode and make sure the delivery instructions are clear

 

[mrsmelly]

2 minutes ago, TheBiscuits said:

Moor at a pub etc and use theirs.

 

No, they can send a prescription to any pharmacy in the country, and they will usually do 2 months at a time (depends on your medications - some are more tightly controlled)  You do need to set this up IN ADVANCE though, and the best way is to do it online and ask the PHARMACY NOT THE GP to set themselves up for your prescriptions at least a week before you need the next one.

 

Let's see what the details are next week when the new laws get published.  We hope not to lose all our civil liberties, but there will be some significant emergency powers granted in the next couple of weeks.

Not disputing most of yer post dude but ya can pick yer pills up anywhere. when I order my repeat if I am elsewhere I just leave the address of the Pharmacy I want to use and always without fail they are there the same day or day after without fault. No need to set up before hand.

[Arthur Marshall]

It will be impossible to ban those without symptoms from going out. An 80 year old on an estate, living on their own with no local family? And thousands of people simply can't afford to get food delivered.

What is sensible is to try to reduce interaction as much as possible, to try to put of getting seriously ill until there is a chance to be cured, or at least looked after. And to remember that most old people recover, too.

[mrsmelly]

1 minute ago, Arthur Marshall said:

It will be impossible to ban those without symptoms from going out. An 80 year old on an estate, living on their own with no local family? And thousands of people simply can't afford to get food delivered.

What is sensible is to try to reduce interaction as much as possible, to try to put of getting seriously ill until there is a chance to be cured, or at least looked after. And to remember that most old people recover, too.

A sensible post. In fact the VAST majority of old folk will recover.

[Arthur Marshall]

Just now, mrsmelly said:

Not disputing most of yer post dude but ya can pick yer pills up anywhere. when I order my repeat if I am elsewhere I just leave the address of the Pharmacy I want to use and always without fail they are there the same day or day after without fault. No need to set up before hand.

Mine aren't - it takes the pharmacy a week to get them. Might depend on the pills, might be the pharmacy - mine has cut right down on holding drugs and has to order moost of them from a central hub elsewhere.

[LadyG]

17 minutes ago, CLAN1 said:

Hi, how do you get post code along the canal? Drs are limited to which pharmacy they will send to and will only allow one months supply, IF we are not allowed out how do we collect? Gov not thought this through. 

I think they assume everyone lives like they do .... tubes, taxis, planes and trains. I will still be popping out on my bike, just not socialising, not using public transport. The problem is I have been living like a hermit since xmas to avoid getting another cold, so I'm afraid I will be getting on my boat and getting out of here. I will be ordering as much as I can from my Doc, should have enough for three months. Another visit to Lidl for two months supply of booze. 

I don't know if you remember "care in the community", lots of mentally challenged people kicked out on the streets, it's the same idea, "the community" will rally round.

What do you suggest?
 

 

[TheBiscuits]

2 minutes ago, mrsmelly said:

Not disputing most of yer post dude but ya can pick yer pills up anywhere. when I order my repeat if I am elsewhere I just leave the address of the Pharmacy I want to use and always without fail they are there the same day or day after without fault. No need to set up before hand.

Again, depends what's on the prescription.  Some medicines are much more tightly controlled than others.

 

It also depends on your GP - some surgeries are better than others at doing the whole electronic prescriptions thing.

[mrsmelly]

1 minute ago, Arthur Marshall said:

Mine aren't - it takes the pharmacy a week to get them. Might depend on the pills, might be the pharmacy - mine has cut right down on holding drugs and has to order moost of them from a central hub elsewhere.

I am on bog standard stuff, blood pressure, kidneys, gout etc so that might well be the case. I am at present spending a lot of time in Yorkshire but am traveling to Oxford for my appointments and am not budging. Its that good were I am registered I aint transferring even temporary up here!!

[wandering snail]

Electronic prescriptions can be sent to any pharmacy of your choice in England only. This does not work in Wales and Scotland. We have had lots of supermarket deliveries all over the place to the boat with only once a big problem and that was with Tescos who it seems are not so good at reading instructions. Morrisons, Sainsburys, Ocado have all been no problem at all. As previous posters have said, moor somewhere easy for the driver to reach you, get the postcode from google and leave clear instructions to ring you when they get there.

[TheBiscuits]

1 minute ago, wandering snail said:

Electronic prescriptions can be sent to any pharmacy of your choice in England only. This does not work in Wales and Scotland.

Thanks for that - I wasn't aware that was the case.

 

Scotland's not likely to be too much of an unexpected problem, as I'd need a crane and a wagon to get there, but it's worth noting about Wales.

[CLAN1]

Hi, OUR drs will not give more than a month and will not use different pharmacies, we have tried in the past. We not panicking will have to see what the gov instruction is, shopping is going to be difficult. Just wondered what folk would be doing, there is a lot in the 'same boat' 

[GUMPY]

11 minutes ago, Arthur Marshall said:

Mine aren't - it takes the pharmacy a week to get them. Might depend on the pills, might be the pharmacy - mine has cut right down on holding drugs and has to order moost of them from a central hub elsewhere.

That was the same at the pharmacy by the surgery down here. I moved my pharmacy to the next village/town, job done.

First one was a national chain the second one an independent, says it all.

[tree monkey]

8 minutes ago, TheBiscuits said:

Thanks for that - I wasn't aware that was the case.

 

Scotland's not likely to be too much of an unexpected problem, as I'd need a crane and a wagon to get there, but it's worth noting about Wales.

Being registered or having a Welsh address can cause issues when trying to acces services in the UK, it can be dealt with but the computer will say no

Edited March 15, 2020 by tree monkey

[TheBiscuits]

4 minutes ago, CLAN1 said:

OUR drs will not give more than a month and will not use different pharmacies

Sounds like an excellent reason to move GPs if you are CCers.  Just make sure that your new GP can and will do electronic prescriptions.

 

It depends on your prescription how long you can get but the usual advice is no more than 3 months, and many GPs prefer to only give 2 months at a time.  It also depends how often your prescription changes - if it varies all the time then it's likely the GP won't prescribe too far ahead, but if you are the same tablets for years they are more likely to.

6 minutes ago, tree monkey said:

Being registered or having a Welsh address can cause issues when trying to acces services in the UK, it can be dealt with but the computer will say no

Yeah, but who would be daft enough to do that ...

 

Given the percentage of the canal network in England compared to Wales it would seem easier to have an address in England, at least for NHS purposes, especially if you are a water pikey boat without a home mooring.

[Guest]

44 minutes ago, CLAN1 said:

Hi, OUR drs will not give more than a month and will not use different pharmacies, we have tried in the past. We not panicking will have to see what the gov instruction is, shopping is going to be difficult. Just wondered what folk would be doing, there is a lot in the 'same boat' 

It is worth remembering that any 'quarantine' will be entirely voluntary. You have a head start in terms of isolating yourself by virtue of living in a boar rather than a flat in town. So an ocasional trip to the shops is only marginally increasing the risk. Especially if you go at quieter times.

[Rob-M]

12 minutes ago, The Happy Nomad said:

It is worth remembering that any 'quarantine' will be entirely voluntary. You have a head start in terms of isolating yourself by virtue of living in a boar rather than a flat in town. So an ocasional trip to the shops is only marginally increasing the risk. Especially if you go at quieter times.

The implications from the interview with Matt Hancock on Sky News this morning was that new laws would be passed this week to legally enforce isolating.

[TheBiscuits]

19 minutes ago, The Happy Nomad said:

It is worth remembering that any 'quarantine' will be entirely voluntary.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-europe-51900325/coronavirus-please-stay-at-home

 

So far.

5 minutes ago, Rob-M said:

The implications from the interview with Matt Hancock on Sky News this morning was that new laws would be passed this week to legally enforce isolating.

Yep.  Let's see how carried away they get with handing out dream powers to the police and the security services.  There will be a lot of temptation to add fairly draconian powers at the whim of the Secretary of State into this "so we have them if we need them in the future" as the usual excuse goes.