Banning House coal and wet wood

[Athy]

Just now, peterboat said:

Vertical axis wind turbine 

Er, quite.

[Victor Vectis]

Useless fact time..........

 

The mayor of MK went to the same school as me.

 

(And not many people know that )

 

[nb Innisfree]

2 minutes ago, peterboat said:

Vertical axis wind turbine 

Ooh, I like them, neatest one I saw was one designed for 3rd world, floated in an oil drum of water and sails made from plastic guttering which hinged in and out like a steam engine governer, as the wind speed increased they spread out due to centrifugal force and regulated the speed. Very elegant. 

[doratheexplorer]

13 minutes ago, peterboat said:

Vertical axis wind turbine 

 who needs one of those when a vest will do just as well?

13 minutes ago, tree monkey said:

Nothing wrong with limes, robust trees that survive the very hostile conditions in those locations,  the more modern varieties have less honeydew issues as well.

Plus many of those trees were planted before to roads were rammed solid with cars, parked and on the move

They're awful things.  Everything about them is wrong.  Plenty of other more suitable trees.

[tree monkey]

7 minutes ago, doratheexplorer said:

 who needs one of those when a vest will do just as well?

They're awful things.  Everything about them is wrong.  Plenty of other more suitable trees.

Well we have to differ, good robust long lived solid trees, that tend to be free of fungi related nasties and don't have a nasty habit of shedding branches or developing structural faults, yes the honeydew thing winds people up and the older forms produce epicormic like mad but overall a stunning street tree.

 

To add, as it happens there are very few good street/highway trees most of the smaller cherrys/sorbus types either die or fall over fairly quickly,  some exceptions to this obviously but as a rule

Edited February 25, 2020 by tree monkey

[Flyboy]

52 minutes ago, peterboat said:

I am fed up telling him that! Please could tell him from now on? I have looked at a couple of model S but truthfully I hate driving nowadays and want no cars in my life if possible 

I have a 1 kw whispergen very small which was on when I got back to the boat and it was cold 2 weeks ago 4.4 kw of solar and a vawt make me self sufficient ta very muchly 

Why do you need a generator when you have  "more electric than I know what to do with " ?

[Richard10002]

4 hours ago, peterboat said:

 

Which is ok but at some point you will have no choice

20+ years away?

[Richard10002]

2 hours ago, sirweste said:

The new Model 3 is quite a bit cheaper at 38k. You can also pick up used model S cars second hand for ~25k which have the free supercharging thingi

25k!!!

 

Not many ordinary folks have that much money to buy a car.

[Richard10002]

1 hour ago, peterboat said:

Vertical axis wind turbine 

It’s like the Times Cryptic Crossword sometimes  

[sirweste]

1 hour ago, Richard10002 said:

25k!!!

 

Not many ordinary folks have that much money to buy a car.

 

Never said they did, the post I was responding to said that they cost £60k, which some of them do, but others don't.

 

Personally the most I've ever spent is £5k on my mini. In the current fleet I have the Van: 1.4k, MG: 0.7k, BSA: 2.5k.

 

The lass however just bought a car for £22k, which is probably close to the actual average spent on cars here. Second hand average price being ~13k and new price being £33k. So I'd argue that 'ordinary folk' would be average and as such they do have ~25k to spend on a car.

1 hour ago, Richard10002 said:

It’s like the Times Cryptic Crossword sometimes  

I'm personally not a fan of symbolism or acronyms , however googling VAWT quickly told me what it was

[Onionman]

5 hours ago, doratheexplorer said:

Until there's a wholesale roll out of charging points on every built up street in the country, I'm not going to be interested.

 

Is there a petrol station on every built up street in the country?

[tree monkey]

Just now, Onionman said:

 

Is there a petrol station on every built up street in the country?

Doesn't need to be, if it was possible to charge an EV in 5/10 minutes the existing petrol station network would be sufficient once adapted 

[Graham Davis]

6 hours ago, peterboat said:

There are places to charge them, public charge points what we want and what is going to happen is up to us https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjJu8zXtuznAhXHbsAKHfD0D-AQFjABegQIBBAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fopenchargemap.org%2F&usg=AOvVaw25rpKbAHEjggfPz5Zy0L5M

 

Of no help to me, then.
Centering that on my town shows ONE charge point that has been out of use and disconnected for 3 years after the Solar Company that was in the unit closed down. I do know there are 2 others, but both are at private properties.
The next nearest is at a group of holiday cottages 4 miles away!

[Graham Davis]

5 hours ago, doratheexplorer said:

When these cars are driverless, you'll just tap your phone 5 minutes before you set off, and it'll be waiting outside your house when you step out the door.  Like a taxi but with no added cost of paying a driver.  Then it will probably be cheaper than car ownership for most people.  More flexible too.  Need a 7 seater?  A van?  A pickup?  Fancy a luxury car day?  Hey presto - it appears for you.

Great in urban areas, but how is it going to work when you live in a village of 200 people in the foot hills of Plynlimon?

[Alan de Enfield]

5 minutes ago, Graham Davis said:

Of no help to me, then.
Centering that on my town shows ONE charge point that has been out of use and disconnected for 3 years after the Solar Company that was in the unit closed down. I do know there are 2 others, but both are at private properties.
The next nearest is at a group of holiday cottages 4 miles away!

 

Luxury - the nearest to me is 8 miles away.

[WotEver]

17 minutes ago, Alan de Enfield said:

 

Luxury - the nearest to me is 8 miles away.

When I were a kid you had to dig your own up out the back yard...

[tree monkey]

Just now, WotEver said:

When I were a kid you had to dig your own up out the back yard...

You had a yard!

[ditchcrawler]

49 minutes ago, Graham Davis said:

Of no help to me, then.
Centering that on my town shows ONE charge point that has been out of use and disconnected for 3 years after the Solar Company that was in the unit closed down. I do know there are 2 others, but both are at private properties.
The next nearest is at a group of holiday cottages 4 miles away!

In our local town Lidl have a couple in their car park, another reason to visit the middle of Lidl    https://pod-point.com/electric-car-news/lidl-pricing-update

Edited February 25, 2020 by ditchcrawler

[peterboat]

3 hours ago, Flyboy said:

Why do you need a generator when you have  "more electric than I know what to do with " ?

Because its a central heating boiler as well does two jobs

3 hours ago, Richard10002 said:

20+ years away?

12 before they are taken off sale, unless the car makers drop them first which is very likely. i will explain why, car makers are caught with ever increasing tariffs on cars that produce more than 95 grams of CO2 per KM traveled Electric cars are exempt, as these pollution targets tighten up it will be just to difficult to meet them. So from their point of view they are throwing good money away trying to clean up ICE cars, why not just spend it on developing electric ones

Edited February 25, 2020 by peterboat

[Flyboy]

4 minutes ago, peterboat said:

Because its a central heating boiler as well does two jobs

You've lost me there, since when has a generator been a central heating boiler? 

[ditchcrawler]

1 minute ago, Flyboy said:

You've lost me there, since when has a generator been a central heating boiler? 

Its a big Stirling Engine driving a alternator. 

[Dr Bob]

30 minutes ago, ditchcrawler said:

In our local town Lidl have a couple in their car park, another reason to visit the middle of Lidl    https://pod-point.com/electric-car-news/lidl-pricing-update

Just back from a hospital as one of our sprogs was producing another grand sprog.

Hospital car park was a nightmare. 20 mins queing to get in and 20 mins driving round and round to get a parking space. Oh for an EV. There were 6 parking slots with chargers ALL empty, waiting for an EV to come along. For at least the next year, so of the prime parking spots will be empty for EVs to park in.

[Alan de Enfield]

14 minutes ago, Flyboy said:

You've lost me there, since when has a generator been a central heating boiler? 

You do know what a 'whispergen' is don't you ?

 

EDIT - In case you don't ;

 

https://www.off-grid.net/whispergen/

Edited February 25, 2020 by Alan de Enfield

[peterboat]

Just now, Alan de Enfield said:

You do know what a 'whispergen' is don't you ?

Dont think he does but google is your friend, I havent ran mine for a couple of weeks now, its not cold and the solar and turbine have done its stuff

[Flyboy]

17 minutes ago, peterboat said:

Dont think he does but google is your friend, I havent ran mine for a couple of weeks now, its not cold and the solar and turbine have done its stuff

Sorry to dissapoint but I do know what a 'whispergen' is and it still runs on diesel or kero so you are not self sufficient are you, that's my point.