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First Two Cases Of Coronavirus Confirmed in UK

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"We can confirm that two patients in England, who are members of the same family, have tested positive for coronavirus," Professor Chris Whitty, the chief medical officer for England said in a statement.

"The patients are receiving specialist NHS care, and we are using tried and tested infection control procedures to prevent further spread of the virus."

"We are already working rapidly to identify any contacts the patients had, to prevent further spread," Whitty added.

Sky News reported that the patients are being treated in Newcastle upon Tyne, a city in the north east of England, close to the Scottish border.

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We're about due for a dose. Britain suffered the effects of Asian Flu in the late '50s, then came Hong Kong Flu a decade later, so it's been half a century since we had a really good epidemic. Odd that the last two and the current one have travelled over from Asia. None of them, though, has been as devastating as the post-WW1 outbreak, which was thought to have originated in Spain.

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34 minutes ago, Alan de Enfield said:

Newcastle upon Tyne, a city in the north east of England, close to the Scottish border.

 

Bugger me! And are bears Catholic too?

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in order to complicate the situation. why don't we arrange for a couple of hundred possibly infected folk to be incarcerated in a plane for 12 hours or so, putting each other and the plane's crew at risk of infection, instead of putting the same folk in quarantine in China before bringing them home?

 

...........   oh, keep up at the back there, we just did.  :rolleyes: 

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1 minute ago, Murflynn said:

in order to complicate the situation. why don't we arrange for a couple of hundred possibly infected folk to be incarcerated in a plane for 12 hours or so, putting each other and the plane's crew at risk of infection, instead of putting the same folk in quarantine in China before bringing them home?

 

...........   oh, keep up at the back there, we just did.  :rolleyes: 

And quarantine them in the Wirral, I know I left many years ago but I don't think it deserves that ;)

Just now, Machpoint005 said:

But they are being sent to the Wirral for a 14-day quarantine!

Why 14 days? Well, because ... ... ... ??

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3 minutes ago, Machpoint005 said:

But they are being sent to the Wirral for a 14-day quarantine!

Why 14 days? Well, because ... ... ... ??

Surely it should be 40.

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I wonder if they choose the Wirral because it would be fairly easy to fence off when they all turn into zombies 

 

Actually at least half of the wirral would burn with some enthusiasm, maybe that's also part of the plan

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1 hour ago, Alan de Enfield said:

 

Sky News reported that the patients are being treated in Newcastle upon Tyne, a city in the north east of England, close to the Scottish border.

When did they move Newcastle?    60+ miles isn't in my opinion close.

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1 hour ago, Murflynn said:

in order to complicate the situation. why don't we arrange for a couple of hundred possibly infected folk to be incarcerated in a plane for 12 hours or so, putting each other and the plane's crew at risk of infection, instead of putting the same folk in quarantine in China before bringing them home?

 

...........   oh, keep up at the back there, we just did.  :rolleyes: 

Having kept them in quarantine in China, how do you then get them to the airport to fly them home without coming in contact with other potential carriers? Bus Driver, Taxi driver, airport check in staff, cabin crew, caterers at the airport, etc.etc. You'd still have to quarantine them again here when they arrived back in the UK, so they get 14 days quarantine in China then another 14 days here, that'd go down well. At least once they've passed quarantine here they should be safe to go.

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a loads of fuss about nothing just mother nature culling the human race as  she/he/they/snowflake has always done

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1 hour ago, tree monkey said:

I wonder if they choose the Wirral because it would be fairly easy to fence off when they all turn into zombies 

 

Actually at least half of the wirral would burn with some enthusiasm, maybe that's also part of the plan

The bit I couldn't understand was why they landed them at Brize Norton, couldn't they have come to an agreement to land them at the Airbus airfield at Broughton with just a short trip to the Wirral?

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7 minutes ago, Wanderer Vagabond said:

Having kept them in quarantine in China, how do you then get them to the airport to fly them home without coming in contact with other potential carriers? Bus Driver, Taxi driver, airport check in staff, cabin crew, caterers at the airport, etc.etc. You'd still have to quarantine them again here when they arrived back in the UK, so they get 14 days quarantine in China then another 14 days here, that'd go down well. At least once they've passed quarantine here they should be safe to go.

use your imagination - it should not prove too difficult to keep them in isolation under controlled conditions during a short transfer from the quarantine hospital to the aircraft - just an extension of the conditions and precautions employed at the hospital.

 

oh ............. I forgot - you have a limited imagination in several areas of human activity, including the avoidance of tautology   :D

 

 

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8 minutes ago, Wanderer Vagabond said:

The bit I couldn't understand was why they landed them at Brize Norton, couldn't they have come to an agreement to land them at the Airbus airfield at Broughton with just a short trip to the Wirral?

That's a good idea, they could then use the new (well newish) sea link to dump the zombies at sea.

 

Actually that is a good idea Broughton, or even Sealand if theres any airfield left

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It was the Russians. 

 

The flight to Brize Norton has no civilians on it just a group of Russian infiltrators. 

 

The civilians with the virus are going to somewhere near Liverpool in an attempt to take out some of the UK population. 

 

Now that the GE and Brexit are done there is no need for the voters. 

 

 

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15 minutes ago, Wanderer Vagabond said:

 14 days here, that'd go down well. At least once they've passed quarantine here they should be safe to go.

What interests me is how are they so sure 14 days is longer than the incubation period, as after all this is a mutated virus which as a result may not perform like other Coronaviruses.

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3 minutes ago, Jerra said:

What interests me is how are they so sure 14 days is longer than the incubation period, as after all this is a mutated virus which as a result may not perform like other Coronaviruses.

Which is why the Wirral,  I was right next step the wall

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26 minutes ago, Murflynn said:

use your imagination - it should not prove too difficult to keep them in isolation under controlled conditions during a short transfer from the quarantine hospital to the aircraft - just an extension of the conditions and precautions employed at the hospital.

 

oh ............. I forgot - you have a limited imagination in several areas of human activity, including the avoidance of tautology   :D

 

 

You need to realise that we have no control over the Chinese Quarantine process. It would appear that you would be quite content for the country that hasn't contained the virus (China) to quarantine UK citizens on our behalf and then send them back to freely mix with the UK population, you haven't really thought this through have you?:unsure:

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45 minutes ago, magnetman said:

 

 

The civilians with the virus are going to somewhere near Liverpool in an attempt to take out some of the UK population. 

At least our alloys will be safe now we have no allies.

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Just now, Alan de Enfield said:

Small correction.

It's the Wirral their being taken, we are far more classy and selective in what we nick, who want hub caps, hardly worth the scrap value

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3 hours ago, Athy said:

We're about due for a dose. Britain suffered the effects of Asian Flu in the late '50s, then came Hong Kong Flu a decade later, so it's been half a century since we had a really good epidemic. Odd that the last two and the current one have travelled over from Asia. None of them, though, has been as devastating as the post-WW1 outbreak, which was thought to have originated in Spain.

Although the common term for the 1919 epidemic was "Spanish Flu" (possibly because the first deaths in Europe were recorded there)  It is well known among people who study such things that the virus did not originate in Spain or anywhere on the Iberian peninsula.  The origin in Spain is an urban myth but it may be what they thought at the time. The exact origins are not known for sure but it seems most likely that it started in Northern China in 1917 and early cases reported in British camps in Etaples, France and Fort Riley. Kansas USA.

 

A devastatingly lethal pandemic all the same.

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3 minutes ago, churchward said:

 The exact origins are not known for sure but it seems most likely that it started in Northern China in 1917 and early cases reported in British camps in Etaples, France and Fort Riley. Kansas USA.

 

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So, most of these epidemics can be traced back to China? How strange.

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5 minutes ago, Athy said:

So, most of these epidemics can be traced back to China? How strange.

It's a very big place with lots of people living in close quarters and often in close proximity to animals, not that surprising 

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