JustTheJob Posted December 8, 2019 Report Share Posted December 8, 2019 Can anybody please suggest a built in oven that can be converted for LPG. It needs to fit a 60 cm wide kitchen cabinet so standard oven size really. The problem we're having is the ovens we can see for sale all seem to need mains electric for things like grills and timers. Many thanks :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dreamer Posted December 8, 2019 Report Share Posted December 8, 2019 https://www.midlandchandlers.co.uk/products/cda-five-function-gas-oven-n45 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtB Posted December 8, 2019 Report Share Posted December 8, 2019 17 minutes ago, JustTheJob said: Can anybody please suggest a built in oven that can be converted for LPG. It needs to fit a 60 cm wide kitchen cabinet so standard oven size really. The problem we're having is the ovens we can see for sale all seem to need mains electric for things like grills and timers. Many thanks In which case they are not just ovens. Have to say, I don't think I've ever encountered a built in gas oven with a electric grill! Timers and trivial stuff like that yes, but not an electric grill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustTheJob Posted December 8, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 8, 2019 Thanks for the reply. Just having a look at the oven from midland. It looks like that one has an electric fan too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Mack Posted December 8, 2019 Report Share Posted December 8, 2019 (edited) Yup. Needs a mains supply with a 3 amp fuse. So not more than 750W, and probably quite a lot less. You could fit a dedicated inverter if you don't have one fitted anyway. A quick google for 12v lpg oven produces a few possibilities including https://www.spirit-leisure-accessories.co.uk/ourshop/prod_1145738-Spinflo-duplex-LPG-oven-and-grill-piezo-ignition.html Edited December 8, 2019 by David Mack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starman Posted December 9, 2019 Report Share Posted December 9, 2019 (edited) 13 hours ago, Mike the Boilerman said: In which case they are not just ovens. Have to say, I don't think I've ever encountered a built in gas oven with a electric grill! Timers and trivial stuff like that yes, but not an electric grill. I think you’re wrong on two points: single ovens often have a second burner inside the top for grilling. On gas ovens most of these were also gas (we had one on our last boat) but now seem to be almost universally electric - probably because gas grills were useless. All-gas built in ovens are hard to find - I know; we are also looking for one. Edited December 9, 2019 by starman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtB Posted December 9, 2019 Report Share Posted December 9, 2019 6 minutes ago, starman said: I think you’re wrong on two points: single ovens often have a second burner inside the top for grilling. On gas ovens most of these were also gas (we had one on our last boat) but now seem to be almost universally electric - probably because gas grills were useless. All-gas built in ovens are hard to find - I know; we are also looking for one. Curious how the market has shifted then, as I have fitted probably hundreds of gas-only built under single ovens back in the day. On reflection yes those with no fan were quite rare. I agree with you about the gas grill being useless. Mine was until I may or may not have fitted the next size up of gas jet....... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starman Posted December 9, 2019 Report Share Posted December 9, 2019 1 minute ago, Mike the Boilerman said: Curious how the market has shifted then, as I have fitted probably hundreds of gas-only built under single ovens back in the day. On reflection yes those with no fan were quite rare. I agree with you about the gas grill being useless. Mine was until I may or may not have fitted the next size up of gas jet....... Yes the 230v fan is another irritation - and very hard to avoid on built-ins. I guess it’s a safety feature. We used to leave our oven door open after cooking to get the oven cooled quicker - and then kept tripping over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momac Posted December 9, 2019 Report Share Posted December 9, 2019 Not sure if this works with LPG but certaintly works with Butane. https://www.norfolkmarine.co.uk/smev-s-s-built-in-oven-with-grill-12v-ignition Must say it's not necessarily suited to live aboard use but suits our occasional use . 12volt ignition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan_fincher Posted December 9, 2019 Report Share Posted December 9, 2019 (edited) Yes, according to this site, the model already pictured a couple of times, (which I think is sold both as Thetford and Spinflo) needs no mains electrical connections. https://www.jacksonsleisure.com/thetford/spinflo/duplex/caravan/motorhome/oven/grill/?gclid=Cj0KCQiA_rfvBRCPARIsANlV66Oqc57ukhY19uURf0SGEtZht07cbfMU3n-pY5Ex68Oei8gzGPOB3O8aAjoPEALw_wcB EDIT: Sorry I can now see you need a wider one. Edited December 9, 2019 by alan_fincher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustTheJob Posted December 9, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2019 We're heading down to Midland Chandlers later to see if we can have a look at the built in one posted above. Will let you know what they say about what is available Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Jeavons Posted December 9, 2019 Report Share Posted December 9, 2019 We have one of these (but in black). Gas oven and gas grill. Igniter, like all of them is mains as is the fan. (Negligible power requirement). if you don't have mains (and don't want mains), just light with a wand and ignore the fan. Timer is mechanical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keeping Up Posted December 9, 2019 Report Share Posted December 9, 2019 On some cookers the fan is essential. According to the manufacturer of one that we had, without the fan the control knobs would melt and the valves would leak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Jeavons Posted December 9, 2019 Report Share Posted December 9, 2019 1 hour ago, Keeping Up said: On some cookers the fan is essential. According to the manufacturer of one that we had, without the fan the control knobs would melt and the valves would leak. Yes true. I forgot, there are in fact two fans on the above oven. As soon as you start the burner, one is on all the time out of sight. That's likely the one doing the cooling of the controls etc.. The right hand knob in the photo controls the cooking fan which can be turned off. So, the above oven DOES require a dinky amount of mains. Sorry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
system 4-50 Posted December 9, 2019 Report Share Posted December 9, 2019 (edited) Does anybody know what year it was was that "knob wilt" arrived in Britain? Before that, cookers's knobs could endure the heat of the kitchen with aplomb, but ever since, they've needed fans to keep them from going soft. edit: I'm being serious here. Was there a change in plastics used or was it some committee wanting to add more regulations in the guise of H&S? Edited December 9, 2019 by system 4-50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotEver Posted December 9, 2019 Report Share Posted December 9, 2019 8 minutes ago, system 4-50 said: Does anybody know what year it was was that "knob wilt" arrived in Britain? Not sure of the date but I’m pretty sure you can get medication for it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan de Enfield Posted December 9, 2019 Report Share Posted December 9, 2019 10 minutes ago, WotEver said: Not sure of the date but I’m pretty sure you can get medication for it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustTheJob Posted December 9, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2019 Well this thread escalated We're ordering the oven from Midland. It uses some mains but we're happy it can run with an inverter when out and about as all heat is from gas. Thanks for pointing us in that direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detling Posted December 9, 2019 Report Share Posted December 9, 2019 20 hours ago, David Mack said: Yup. Needs a mains supply with a 3 amp fuse. So not more than 750W, and probably quite a lot less. You could fit a dedicated inverter if you don't have one fitted anyway Beware a lot of small inverters use over 1 amp doing nothing, some good large ones actually use less. Also a lot of electronic timers only work with pure sinewave inverters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starman Posted December 10, 2019 Report Share Posted December 10, 2019 19 hours ago, JustTheJob said: Well this thread escalated We're ordering the oven from Midland. It uses some mains but we're happy it can run with an inverter when out and about as all heat is from gas. Thanks for pointing us in that direction. Which one did you buy in the end - the CDA? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon57 Posted December 10, 2019 Report Share Posted December 10, 2019 Cheaper at AO.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon57 Posted December 10, 2019 Report Share Posted December 10, 2019 Sorry wrong site .applianepeople.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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