Alternator for XD3P Peugeot - Identify mine!

[yotboy]

Can anyone identify this alternator attached to my 1989 XD3P 2.5 l engine?  It needs replacing with any alternator that will fit the space/brackets

[mrsmelly]

Take it to any decent auto ekectrical place, there are many about and they will refurb it for you.

[Alan de Enfield]

Just do a search for a Peugeot 504 or 505 alternator and that'll be the one you want.

 

I would suggest that you upgrade the regulator from 14v to 14.4 or 14.6 volt as 14v is not really high enough for boat use.

[Boater Sam]

Leece Neville Prestolite universal mounting alternator?

http://www.prestolite.com/pgs_buy/distributor_listing.php?country_id=20&cid=0

[system 4-50]

That must be a contender for CWDF query of the year 2019 award, for the detail submitted without having to be asked. 

[yotboy]

On 07/10/2019 at 17:17, Alan de Enfield said:

Just do a search for a Peugeot 504 or 505 alternator and that'll be the one you want.

 

I would suggest that you upgrade the regulator from 14v to 14.4 or 14.6 volt as 14v is not really high enough for boat use.

Agree on the voltage, I have a 14.6 regulator.  The 504/505/Boxer/Balero etc search doesn't produce anything I can use, but thanks.

On 07/10/2019 at 18:38, system 4-50 said:

That must be a contender for CWDF query of the year 2019 award, for the detail submitted without having to be asked. 

Thank you.  I try!

[yotboy]

On 07/10/2019 at 17:22, Boater Sam said:

Leece Neville Prestolite universal mounting alternator?

http://www.prestolite.com/pgs_buy/distributor_listing.php?country_id=20&cid=0

Thanks - I'm going to end up finding any alternator that will fit.  Certain dimensions are critical, hence the hope that someone would have an EUREKA moment and come back with the part number!

[Tony Brooks]

I think it is a standard Bosch alternator and I think the regulators are probably a standard fitting across the range so A suitably rated Bosch regulator from someone like Cargo  will probably do the job.

[yotboy]

On 07/10/2019 at 17:15, mrsmelly said:

Take it to any decent auto ekectrical place, there are many about and they will refurb it for you.

It's not up for refurb.  Casing's broken, slip rings are down to nothing.  Hence the enquiry.  Thanks.

Just now, Tony Brooks said:

I think it is a standard Bosch alternator and I think the regulators are probably a standard fitting across the range so A suitably rated Bosch regulator from someone like Cargo  will probably do the job.

Agree, it's probably Bosch, but an online search doesn't reveal anything in Bosch history that looks remotely like it.  I'll see if it's possible to enquire directly with them.  Thank you.

[cuthound]

Not sure if it helps but many Peugeot's were fitted with Paris Rhone alternators.

[yotboy]

5 minutes ago, cuthound said:

Not sure if it helps but many Peugeot's were fitted with Paris Rhone alternators.

Thanks - 'nother line of enquiry.  I'll look.

[Tony Brooks]

What annoys me is that I am sure that I have worked on one of those but can't remember what vehicle it came off. However I think there is every chance a Lucas A127 clone will fit

[yotboy]

Thanks. I've seen a number of these engines - all with different alternators on them.  I've tried one look at Lucas but will do so again now I have a number!

[yotboy]

On 11/10/2019 at 12:48, Tony Brooks said:

What annoys me is that I am sure that I have worked on one of those but can't remember what vehicle it came off. However I think there is every chance a Lucas A127 clone will fit

I did indeed get a clone of the same physical size to fi the space available.  There are of course 100's of alternators that would fit and had I been standing in a yard full of them I would have found one.  West Lancs did the job for me.

Job done -whoopee!

[cuthound]

Thanks for the update.

 

Not everyone remembers to after asking a question, leaving is forumites wondering if the issue ever got sorted.

[Sir Nibble]

Bosch for sure. Is there a label on the back bracket? Maybe under the paint? If you can find the ten digit number, starting 0120 then I can get a positive id from that. Slip ring replacement is a routine job and a bracket may well be available. I will take a look at some pictures.

[Sir Nibble]

0120 489 190 works for me. None of my usual sources has one. Refurb, any repair shop should have a box full of bosch 28mm slip rings and wood auto have stock of both brackets. Where are you?

[sharpness]

He's sorted it. Post No 14

[Sir Nibble]

Missed that! Could have saved myself some trouble.

[yotboy]

Thanks for all the suggestions and advice.  Interesting to note that the new alternator also has no manufacturers markings on it.  I've googled around and found it a few times.  Part of my problem arose from the fact that the alternator was never in a vehicle -ALL websites selling this stuff give compatibility charts which are vehicle related.

The new alternator was sourced by West Lancs Auto in Preston. Understandably they wanted the old one 'in their hands' before they found a new one.  My detailed pictures were not considered sufficient.

[Alan de Enfield]

9 hours ago, yotboy said:

ALL websites selling this stuff give compatibility charts which are vehicle related.

I've had this problem recently - broke one of the windscreen wipers when trying to remove it.

 

Called into all the local car accessory shops -

"what car is it for",

"It isn't, its a boat"

"Sorry, cannot help then"

"If you look at the broken one will you know what it fits ?"

"No, we don't hold those things in stock so need to know the model before we can order one in"

 

Same on Ebay.