Higgs Posted December 11, 2021 Report Share Posted December 11, 2021 (edited) 5 hours ago, jetzi said: Something doesn't add up! Private mooring you say? Ad says niwt about mooring. Given that its on the towpath and the house only looks 10' wide im skeptical you'd get an end of garden mooring on that? The price is unbelievably low though. It does say "guide price", perhaps it is being auctioned for much higher as usual (though it doesn't say that either). Guide prices are reckoned to be 90% of the reserve price, but it's usually crap. You can find properties being advertised with a £19,000 guide price - selling for well over £100,000. The dealers just want to generate interest in the property. The guide price being stated for the canal property is quite high, so the difference between that and the sale price won't be as high a difference as in the example used. Edited December 11, 2021 by Higgs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dav and Pen Posted December 11, 2021 Report Share Posted December 11, 2021 The way the plaster has been renewed makes me wonder if there’s been a flood in the house. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchcrawler Posted December 11, 2021 Report Share Posted December 11, 2021 Might be lots of properties going here https://selfservice.daventrydc.gov.uk/swiftlg/apas/run/WPHAPPDETAIL.DisplayUrl?theApnID=DA/2020/1158 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchcrawler Posted December 12, 2021 Report Share Posted December 12, 2021 On 17/11/2021 at 08:09, MtB said: Rental income £660 per month. Sale price £303k. Gross yield 2.6%, but in reality much worse than that once maintenance costs, administration and void costs are loaded into the calc. Another sound commercial decision by CRT estate managers to dispose of it. Here is a list of what CRT have disposed of recently IR 20 21 Listed Buildings Sold.xlsx (whatdotheyknow.com) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uxter Posted December 12, 2021 Report Share Posted December 12, 2021 House boat commune. https://www.onthemarket.com/details/11269337/?test=8&utm_source=newsnow&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=newsnow-feed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athy Posted December 12, 2021 Report Share Posted December 12, 2021 7 minutes ago, Uxter said: House boat commune. https://www.onthemarket.com/details/11269337/?test=8&utm_source=newsnow&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=newsnow-feed Intriguing; but 12 double rooms and only one bathroom and one kitchen? I can imagine long queues forming. I wonder at whom it is aimed? Perhaps young people working on short-term contracts in London? I do hope that "Vendor owes the mooring" is a typo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty40s Posted December 12, 2021 Report Share Posted December 12, 2021 58 minutes ago, Uxter said: House boat commune. https://www.onthemarket.com/details/11269337/?test=8&utm_source=newsnow&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=newsnow-feed Pretty sure that this boat is owned by the guy who has just succesfully been taken to court by the EA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacchus Posted December 12, 2021 Report Share Posted December 12, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Uxter said: House boat commune. https://www.onthemarket.com/details/11269337/?test=8&utm_source=newsnow&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=newsnow-feed Possibly something to do with this... https://www.getsurrey.co.uk/news/surrey-news/slumboat-returns-thames-molesey-after-13653358 52 minutes ago, Athy said: I do hope that "Vendor owes the mooring" is a typo. I suspect not... Edited December 12, 2021 by Bacchus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uxter Posted December 13, 2021 Report Share Posted December 13, 2021 Nice house, no space for mooring at end of garden, I wonder if you could cut a channel in back yard lawn to reverse boat into. https://www.boomin.com/property-for-sale/property-details/zh4Yc9LVKL5BbF5YMc6zmXfD?utm_source=Lifull-connect&utm_medium=CPC&utm_campaign=Buy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doratheexplorer Posted December 13, 2021 Report Share Posted December 13, 2021 11 minutes ago, Uxter said: Nice house, no space for mooring at end of garden, I wonder if you could cut a channel in back yard lawn to reverse boat into. https://www.boomin.com/property-for-sale/property-details/zh4Yc9LVKL5BbF5YMc6zmXfD?utm_source=Lifull-connect&utm_medium=CPC&utm_campaign=Buy Looks like there's a mooring space to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uxter Posted December 13, 2021 Report Share Posted December 13, 2021 12 minutes ago, doratheexplorer said: Looks like there's a mooring space to me. The back yard has length but not width, It will depend on the length of your of your boat, how friendly you are with your neighbours and CRT, if you wanted to moor at the end of the garden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerra Posted December 13, 2021 Report Share Posted December 13, 2021 23 minutes ago, Uxter said: The back yard has length but not width, It will depend on the length of your of your boat, how friendly you are with your neighbours and CRT, if you wanted to moor at the end of the garden. Are EoG moorings allowed if the boat isn't all within your property? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uxter Posted December 13, 2021 Report Share Posted December 13, 2021 5 minutes ago, Jerra said: Are EoG moorings allowed if the boat isn't all within your property? You may want to read this "Who owns the non tow path canal bank?" on Canal World. CRT own the canal bank, but your neighbours may not want to see your 60' boat at the end of there garden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUMPY Posted December 13, 2021 Report Share Posted December 13, 2021 20 minutes ago, Uxter said: You may want to read this "Who owns the non tow path canal bank?" on Canal World. CRT own the canal bank, No they don't At least not everywhere, they claim they do but it's a lie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athy Posted December 13, 2021 Report Share Posted December 13, 2021 2 hours ago, Uxter said: Nice house, no space for mooring at end of garden, I wonder if you could cut a channel in back yard lawn to reverse boat into. It's a fairly handsome, though smallish (note estate agent-speak "cosy" for the lounge) property. The blurb neither confirms nor denies mooring rights; it looks as if you could park a 25-footer or so there. I also like the estate agent-speak "Space saving staircase" to the attic. Er, most people call it a ladder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doratheexplorer Posted December 13, 2021 Report Share Posted December 13, 2021 1 hour ago, Uxter said: The back yard has length but not width, It will depend on the length of your of your boat, how friendly you are with your neighbours and CRT, if you wanted to moor at the end of the garden. I didn't say it was a big mooring space but a small boat would moor there. I've seen plenty of small boats moored at the end of a terraced garden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uxter Posted December 13, 2021 Report Share Posted December 13, 2021 1 hour ago, Loddon said: No they don't At least not everywhere, they claim they do but it's a lie. Weather CRT own or do not own the land at the bottom of your garden, you still need there permission to moor and to pay them for the privilege. https://canalrivertrust.org.uk/enjoy-the-waterways/boating/moorings/mooring-faqs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUMPY Posted December 13, 2021 Report Share Posted December 13, 2021 (edited) 53 minutes ago, Uxter said: Weather CRT own or do not own the land at the bottom of your garden, you still need there permission to moor and to pay them for the privilege. https://canalrivertrust.org.uk/enjoy-the-waterways/boating/moorings/mooring-faqs Again that's not strictly true. As an example I think you will find that the moorings above Batchworth lock on the GU are OSM free and have been for years. There are many places over the system that have rights to mooring on the offside and there is very little cart can do about it. It is normally where there is or was an historic wharf. Edited December 13, 2021 by Loddon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athy Posted December 13, 2021 Report Share Posted December 13, 2021 9 minutes ago, Loddon said: Again that's not strictly true. As an example I think you will find that the moorings above Batchworth lock on the GU are OSM free and have been for years. There are many places over the system that have rights to mooring on the offside and there is very little cart can do about it. It is normally where there is or was an historic wharf. Mike Ballinger, former moorings warden at Cropredy (and, I think, the grandson of a canal carrier) used to reckon that there were historic offside mooring rights on the Oxford Canal, though whether on all of it or just bits of it I don't know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Mack Posted December 13, 2021 Report Share Posted December 13, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Loddon said: No they don't At least not everywhere, they claim they do but it's a lie. They do in this case: "Note: As is typical with homes that back on to the canal on the road, the current owner pays The River and Canal Trust an annual payment of £215.64 to rent the bottom of the garden (from the lawn tot he canal). A new owner will need to renew this license agreement." 3 hours ago, Jerra said: Are EoG moorings allowed if the boat isn't all within your property? Not on the K&A: "Exception for the Kennet & Avon Canal On the Kennet & Avon Canal we will not permit the creation of any further offside moorings against private property. This underlines our commitment to delivering the policies within the Kennet & Avon Canal Conservation Plan. https://canalrivertrust.org.uk/media/original/39940-online-mooring-policy-2019.pdf Edited December 13, 2021 by David Mack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUMPY Posted December 13, 2021 Report Share Posted December 13, 2021 11 minutes ago, David Mack said: They do in this case: Indeed, but I was taking exception to the blanket OSM statement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uxter Posted December 13, 2021 Report Share Posted December 13, 2021 Room for one in the kitchen and picturesque view of Hawkesbury junction toilets. https://www.zoopla.co.uk/for-sale/details/60366885/?search_identifier=834c5b5b856624af8579d45a6a0c989d Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frangar Posted December 13, 2021 Report Share Posted December 13, 2021 5 minutes ago, Uxter said: Room for one in the kitchen and picturesque view of Hawkesbury junction toilets. https://www.zoopla.co.uk/for-sale/details/60366885/?search_identifier=834c5b5b856624af8579d45a6a0c989d But you would never have to visit the tip as there is some handy bins just across the road you can put all your waste in.............. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athy Posted December 13, 2021 Report Share Posted December 13, 2021 5 hours ago, Uxter said: Room for one in the kitchen and picturesque view of Hawkesbury junction toilets. https://www.zoopla.co.uk/for-sale/details/60366885/?search_identifier=834c5b5b856624af8579d45a6a0c989d "Comprises of and entrance hall......" Oh dear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doratheexplorer Posted December 14, 2021 Report Share Posted December 14, 2021 16 hours ago, Uxter said: Room for one in the kitchen and picturesque view of Hawkesbury junction toilets. https://www.zoopla.co.uk/for-sale/details/60366885/?search_identifier=834c5b5b856624af8579d45a6a0c989d The floor plan lists a study but no bathroom. The description implies that the bathroom is actually the study, or vice versa. Either way, it's a room with no windows or natural ventilation so pretty unpleasant as either a study or a bathroom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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