Parahandy Posted August 26, 2019 Report Share Posted August 26, 2019 https://narrowboats.apolloduck.co.uk/boat/narrow-boats-tugs/610116 I am getting to the age now where after 40 years Boating I am wondering if there is another Boat in me or perhaps I should just stick with what I have got which is a 2009 Tug with a Beta Marine Engine . The trouble is that the older you get the harder it is to justify the expenditure , how often do we decide to simply stick with what we have rather than embrace change . I have always been an admirer of an elegant Tug shell and have owned several , I appreciate for many they arent the most practical but they suit my needs adequately . The trouble I am finding is there arent that many around and what there are can be " big money " Take this one above for instance , where is the Buyer at this sort of Money for this sort of Boat ? It seems to have hung around for months , perhaps its gone as owing to the Price I haven't even bothered to check . Maybe its like my long departed fellow Boater Stan used to say " sometimes the best pleasure is to only browse rather than buy " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dor Posted August 26, 2019 Report Share Posted August 26, 2019 Reminds me of those Victorian underground toilets you used to see in London (perhaps still do). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horace42 Posted August 26, 2019 Report Share Posted August 26, 2019 Hamlet has your problem sussed out! "To be or not to be....................and thus the native view of resolution is sicklied over by the pale cast of thought, and enterprise of great pith on moment with this regard their currents turn awry and lose the name of action." Like me when I have urges to do something great, I sit down and think until it passes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
br4k3s Posted August 26, 2019 Report Share Posted August 26, 2019 Think you have the answer in your post, the price is the problem. the seating area has a lack of seats[sorted at more expense] plus other items require attention[and expense] in my opinion. These Northwich Trader style of tug do command rather high prices though, but do think this is on the high side, location doe's not help, but there are buyers who would consider/buy at this price, not me personally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taslim Posted August 26, 2019 Report Share Posted August 26, 2019 London price + pretensions %. I wouldn't mind it if the price was more 'West Midlands' though. Dream on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zenataomm Posted August 26, 2019 Report Share Posted August 26, 2019 I know it's easy and pointless to leap for the jugular and criticise a boat one couldn't afford any old how. It looks superb, but I couldn't live with that interior, I don't find it welcoming or relaxing. The advert puzzled me, when I saw the first photo I thought it was fire damaged. I still can't decide if the cabin is in primer or oxidised. In the blurb... "replica of the 1935 Northwich Tug Sculptor" made me stroke my teeth and suck my chin. The only Star Class Yarwoods from 35 called Sculptor I'm aware of is at Stoke Bruerne and isn't a tug. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canalboat Posted August 26, 2019 Report Share Posted August 26, 2019 A National with Electric Start ? Wouldn't touch such heresy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtB Posted August 26, 2019 Report Share Posted August 26, 2019 6 minutes ago, canalboat said: A National with Electric Start ? Wouldn't touch such heresy. You wouldn't have to touch it. You just press the button! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parahandy Posted August 26, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 26, 2019 3 hours ago, dor said: Reminds me of those Victorian underground toilets you used to see in London (perhaps still do). Careful Dor many have fallen from Grace in a Victorian underground toilet ? This is an interesting point you and one other Zenataomm raise about the Interior . This is a problem when an Owner or Builder embarks upon a recreation of something from the past especially a Tug when there was no recognised Standard , You can easily end up with something that looks ridiculous . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murflynn Posted August 26, 2019 Report Share Posted August 26, 2019 I hope all those tiles were stuck with flexible adhesive. A disaster just waiting to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark99 Posted August 26, 2019 Report Share Posted August 26, 2019 (edited) What about "Frogmore" Para... better bote similar money. Can't put a link up but you can search Google. Edited August 26, 2019 by mark99 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leo No2 Posted August 26, 2019 Report Share Posted August 26, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, zenataomm said: In the blurb... "replica of the 1935 Northwich Tug Sculptor" made me stroke my teeth and suck my chin. The only Star Class Yarwoods from 35 called Sculptor I'm aware of is at Stoke Bruerne and isn't a tug. Edited August 26, 2019 by Leo No2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtB Posted August 26, 2019 Report Share Posted August 26, 2019 1 hour ago, Leo No2 said: In the blurb... "replica of the 1935 Northwich Tug Sculptor" made me stroke my teeth and suck my chin. The only Star Class Yarwoods from 35 called Sculptor I'm aware of is at Stoke Bruerne and isn't a tug. I thought that too. But mostly I thought its a very poor 'replica', because Sculptor didn't seem to have a full length cabin last time I saw it. So maybe the builders were actually copying a different boat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roland elsdon Posted August 26, 2019 Report Share Posted August 26, 2019 Always makes me laugh when they put northwich handrails on the added on bit on a modern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leo No2 Posted August 26, 2019 Report Share Posted August 26, 2019 5 minutes ago, Mike the Boilerman said: I thought that too. But mostly I thought its a very poor 'replica', because Sculptor didn't seem to have a full length cabin last time I saw it. So maybe the builders were actually copying a different boat. Sculptor has been in this configuration since about 1947 I think - after the London Fire brigade extension was removed - and still is to this day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty40s Posted August 26, 2019 Report Share Posted August 26, 2019 1 hour ago, mark99 said: What about "Frogmore" Para... better bote similar money. Can't put a link up but you can search Google. Better engine too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Tee Posted August 26, 2019 Report Share Posted August 26, 2019 2 hours ago, mark99 said: What about "Frogmore" Para... better bote similar money. Can't put a link up but you can search Google. Quite right, but I'd have to find a way for the door into the engine room to open INTO the e/r - maybe not enough room, in which case the door would have to come off! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuthound Posted August 26, 2019 Report Share Posted August 26, 2019 2 minutes ago, Mike Tee said: Quite right, but I'd have to find a way for the door into the engine room to open INTO the e/r - maybe not enough room, in which case the door would have to come off! Is there room for a sliding door? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Tee Posted August 26, 2019 Report Share Posted August 26, 2019 I've not been on the boat, so don't know - good idea if there is room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Mack Posted August 26, 2019 Report Share Posted August 26, 2019 "she is an exacting replica of the 1935 Northwich Tug Sculptor. Measurements were taken from Lacerta..." Doesn't that make her an exacting replica of Lacerta? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parahandy Posted August 26, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 26, 2019 16 minutes ago, David Mack said: "she is an exacting replica of the 1935 Northwich Tug Sculptor. Measurements were taken from Lacerta..." Doesn't that make her an exacting replica of Lacerta? It makes you wonder if this is the reason the Boat has remained unsold . Its relatively " big money " for something that doesn't bear even the most cursory scrutiny . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtB Posted August 26, 2019 Report Share Posted August 26, 2019 As far as I can see the economy is tanking now. Two century-old big family businesses in Reading I buy from occasionally have recently thrown in the towel and stopped trading. Two houses I have on the market have only sold by taking 10% price cuts. Nobody seems to have any money or if they have, they are waiting until after the brexit economy crash. This is why oldish boats with immaculate pedigrees but high prices are no longer selling, in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark99 Posted August 27, 2019 Report Share Posted August 27, 2019 (edited) Link to Frogmore. https://www.apolloduck.co.uk/boat/brinklow-boats/131800 The doors are normally split into two (two doors) are they not/ that is Back Cabin opening to Engine Room? Edited August 27, 2019 by mark99 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Tee Posted August 27, 2019 Report Share Posted August 27, 2019 Not sure about it being normal to be split in two, but is normal to open into the e/r otherwise the door is blocked when the bed is made - effectively leaving only one exit which is less than ideal! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roland elsdon Posted August 27, 2019 Report Share Posted August 27, 2019 46 minutes ago, mark99 said: Link to Frogmore. https://www.apolloduck.co.uk/boat/brinklow-boats/131800 The doors are normally split into two (two doors) are they not/ that is Back Cabin opening to Engine Room? If it is a proper copy there should be a bulkhead between the cabin and the hole. the long walk round to the loo is a feature of gu boats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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