Side doors timber inserts

[Nightwatch]

Hello. Where can I get some hardwood, anykind, to infill my side doors. Do woodyards stock such stuff. Never been able to find any. Used ply in the past but after a time it get wet and delaminates. 

 

Need about 3'6" x 3'0". To make two pieces. Don't want ply again as I'd like the opportunity to machine carve something into the timber.

Edited August 6, 2019 by Nightwatch

[mrsmelly]

1 minute ago, Nightwatch said:

Hello. Where can I get some hardwood, anykind, to infiltrate my side doors. Do woodyards stock such stuff. Never been able to find any. Used ply in the past but aftera time it get wet and delaminates. 

 

Need about 3'6" x 3'0". To make two pieces. Don't want ply again as I'd like the opportunity to machine carve something into the timber.

Any decent woodyard will cut a piece for you from stock. I had the yard at Deddington do this for me twice in meranti and plane it down so all I had to do was fit it intut ole and oil it.

[blackrose]

17 minutes ago, Nightwatch said:

Hello. Where can I get some hardwood, anykind, to infiltrate my side doors. Do woodyards stock such stuff. Never been able to find any. Used ply in the past but aftera time it get wet and delaminates. 

 

Need about 3'6" x 3'0". To make two pieces. Don't want ply again as I'd like the opportunity to machine carve something into the timber.

 

What's it for exactly? To line the side doors?

[Nightwatch]

27 minutes ago, blackrose said:

 

What's it for exactly? To line the side doors?

Yeah! About 3/4 " thick.

43 minutes ago, mrsmelly said:

Any decent woodyard will cut a piece for you from stock. I had the yard at Deddington do this for me twice in meranti and plane it down so all I had to do was fit it intut ole and oil it.

That's what I want. There's a woodyard up the road from where we are at present. I'll take a wonder. A woodyard I ventured into in Waterlooville didn't have any large sheets/slabs. 

[stagedamager]

I may have some 6 x 1 oak planking......

[David Mack]

https://www.britishhardwoods.co.uk

Contact them and they will do sizes othr than those listed. 

Not the cheapest but good service when I have used them in the past.

[alan_fincher]

You say 3' 0" x 3' 6", but presumably intend to cut that in half.

So do you actually need two bits about 1' 6" x 3' 6"  or two bits about 1' 9" x 3' 0"?

I  think that whilst many half decent timber yards will stock a variety of hardwoods, once you are looking at more than about a foot in width, you will find it much harder to find.  You may well need to make each door from two pieces, I think.

[dor]

21 minutes ago, alan_fincher said:

You say 3' 0" x 3' 6", but presumably intend to cut that in half.

So do you actually need two bits about 1' 6" x 3' 6"  or two bits about 1' 9" x 3' 0"?

I  think that whilst many half decent timber yards will stock a variety of hardwoods, once you are looking at more than about a foot in width, you will find it much harder to find.  You may well need to make each door from two pieces, I think.

And biscuit-jointed.

[alan_fincher]

Just now, dor said:

And biscuit-jointed.

Our local wood-yard will do just about anything you ask at a cost.  So if you wanted a tongue cut on the side of one plank, and a groove in the one it needed to but up to, I'm sure they would.

A fairly simple thing to do yourself with a router, I'm guessing, though I admit I have never tried!

[mrsmelly]

1 minute ago, alan_fincher said:

Our local wood-yard will do just about anything you ask at a cost.  So if you wanted a tongue cut on the side of one plank, and a groove in the one it needed to but up to, I'm sure they would.

A fairly simple thing to do yourself with a router, I'm guessing, though I admit I have never tried!

Any decent woodyard willI think? My two occasions were not cheap and were done from a single piece of wood. Cant remember precisely but quite a few shillings for proper stuff.

[WotEver]

2 minutes ago, alan_fincher said:

Our local wood-yard will do just about anything you ask at a cost.  So if you wanted a tongue cut on the side of one plank, and a groove in the one it needed to but up to, I'm sure they would.

A fairly simple thing to do yourself with a router, I'm guessing, though I admit I have never tried!

Yes that’s pretty easy but it wastes wood. That’s why it’s more usual to use either biscuits or Festool dominoes to align the boards when glueing up. 

1 minute ago, mrsmelly said:

Any decent woodyard willI think? My two occasions were not cheap and were done from a single piece of wood. Cant remember precisely but quite a few shillings for proper stuff.

Hardwood of any description - oak, ash, mahogany, whatever - is very expensive compared to plywood. 

[alan_fincher]

2 minutes ago, WotEver said:

Yes that’s pretty easy but it wastes wood. That’s why it’s more usual to use either biscuits or Festool dominoes to align the boards when glueing up. 

On the rare occasions I buy hardwood at our local yard, there isn't much choice about size, so you have to buy from what they have.  Generally I find a fair amount of wastage fairly inevitable, but the only thing is to go and see what any particular place is offering.

[WotEver]

Just now, alan_fincher said:

On the rare occasions I buy hardwood at our local yard, there isn't much choice about size, so you have to buy from what they have.  Generally I find a fair amount of wastage fairly inevitable, but the only thing is to go and see what any particular place is offering.

I use a local specialist supplier who can supply almost anything (except 2ft wide boards!). 

https://www.sykestimber.co.uk/

[stagedamager]

We have a domino jointer if you need to align boards. 

[WotEver]

They have pretty large stocks of hardwood:

https://youtu.be/-Qy9PGHEM40

[BEngo]

There are one or two things to think about when picking your timber.  Oak will rot steel, because of the tannins in it.  Ash will in due course go black, once water gets into the end grain.  Oily timbers like Iroko are near impossible to finish, except with more oil.

 

N

[Nightwatch]

33 minutes ago, BEngo said:

There are one or two things to think about when picking your timber.  Oak will rot steel, because of the tannins in it.  Ash will in due course go black, once water gets into the end grain.  Oily timbers like Iroko are near impossible to finish, except with more oil.

 

N

Thanks for that. Narrows it down a bit. 

[WotEver]

44 minutes ago, Nightwatch said:

Thanks for that. Narrows it down a bit. 

To keep costs down take a look at Meranti if you want a darker wood, or maybe Keruing if you want something paler. 

[Nightwatch]

My mate suggested Meranti. I think he's my mate.

[WotEver]

7 minutes ago, Nightwatch said:

My mate suggested Meranti. I think he's my mate.

Yeah, I’d say he’s a pretty good mate