Guest Posted July 18, 2019 Report Share Posted July 18, 2019 A couple more shorties from my pics. I imagine that the square pontoon bow will be more stable and offer greater space within a shorter boat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murflynn Posted July 18, 2019 Report Share Posted July 18, 2019 57 minutes ago, catweasel said: A couple more shorties from my pics. I imagine that the square pontoon bow will be more stable and offer greater space within a shorter boat? are those continuous cruisers? ............................. coat .............................. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotEver Posted July 18, 2019 Report Share Posted July 18, 2019 We saw a really tiny narrowboat outside the Lime Kilns on the Ashby many years ago. I think from memory it was 12ft. Its shape was similar to a coracle - it was all swim. The bed (which almost filled the cabin) folded up into a seat and a hob folded down from the wall. Fwd of the ‘cabin’ was the toilet & shower. Motive power came from a tiny little two stroke outboard. I asked the owners how much they used it and they informed me they lived on it and had just travelled down from Liverpool. It never had to wind, it could simply spin in its own length. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 18, 2019 Report Share Posted July 18, 2019 11 minutes ago, WotEver said: We saw a really tiny narrowboat outside the Lime Kilns on the Ashby many years ago. I think from memory it was 12ft. Its shape was similar to a coracle - it was all swim. The bed (which almost filled the cabin) folded up into a seat and a hob folded down from the wall. Fwd of the ‘cabin’ was the toilet & shower. Motive power came from a tiny little two stroke outboard. I asked the owners how much they used it and they informed me they lived on it and had just travelled down from Liverpool. It never had to wind, it could simply spin in its own length. I would love to see that. Hopefully somebody will come up with a pic or two Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotEver Posted July 18, 2019 Report Share Posted July 18, 2019 2 minutes ago, catweasel said: I would love to see that. Hopefully somebody will come up with a pic or two I ‘think’ I took a photo (real film, before all this digital nonsense) but sadly I’ve failed to find it over the years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 18, 2019 Report Share Posted July 18, 2019 1 minute ago, WotEver said: I ‘think’ I took a photo (real film, before all this digital nonsense) but sadly I’ve failed to find it over the years. I still use (and prefer) film when in the mood (not as easy since moving aboard.). Some of my digital EOS glassware fits on an old Canon EOS film body, bought for 99p off Ebay and works beautifully! Digital is great when living aboard though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtB Posted July 18, 2019 Report Share Posted July 18, 2019 1 hour ago, catweasel said: I still use (and prefer) film when in the mood (not as easy since moving aboard.). Some of my digital EOS glassware fits on an old Canon EOS film body, bought for 99p off Ebay and works beautifully! Digital is great when living aboard though I find the camera you use makes a massive difference to the artistic attractiveness of photos one takes. My Pentax K1000 took wonderful fotos but when I upgraded to a Pentax ME (which took the same lenses) it all fell apart so I regressed to the K1000. Similarly with phone cameras. My Iphone 8 takes simply spectacular photos compared to all the previous iPhones or any digital cam I ever tried. I cannot explain why this is.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuthound Posted July 19, 2019 Report Share Posted July 19, 2019 19 hours ago, Mike the Boilerman said: I find the camera you use makes a massive difference to the artistic attractiveness of photos one takes. My Pentax K1000 took wonderful fotos but when I upgraded to a Pentax ME (which took the same lenses) it all fell apart so I regressed to the K1000. Similarly with phone cameras. My Iphone 8 takes simply spectacular photos compared to all the previous iPhones or any digital cam I ever tried. I cannot explain why this is.... Perhaps you are getting better with practice? ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 19, 2019 Report Share Posted July 19, 2019 19 hours ago, Mike the Boilerman said: I find the camera you use makes a massive difference to the artistic attractiveness of photos one takes. My Pentax K1000 took wonderful fotos but when I upgraded to a Pentax ME (which took the same lenses) it all fell apart so I regressed to the K1000. Similarly with phone cameras. My Iphone 8 takes simply spectacular photos compared to all the previous iPhones or any digital cam I ever tried. I cannot explain why this is.... Pentax K1000 Never owned one but longed for one. If I ever see one in a secondhand shop for the right money..... Or a Nikon F4 will do. Probably my best was a Canon T90, though the one I can't bear to part with is a Yashica SLR that I refurbished. Lovely little thing and dead simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sans allumette Posted July 20, 2019 Report Share Posted July 20, 2019 On 17/07/2019 at 22:44, Lifeforliving said: Thinking about a 21 foot nb. I've just seen a 21 footer on ebay. The vendor has posted a number of pictures of the internal arrangements and it looks good inside. Perhaps handy for some ideas. Take a look HERE. Selling for £11K. (I have no connection whatsoever with the seller!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 20, 2019 Report Share Posted July 20, 2019 12 minutes ago, sans allumette said: I've just seen a 21 footer on ebay. The vendor has posted a number of pictures of the internal arrangements and it looks good inside. Perhaps handy for some ideas. Take a look HERE. Selling for £11K. (I have no connection whatsoever with the seller!) That is a smart little NB. Made me think of this. This one was built entirely by the owner in 1970 when the canal at Lymm was breached. It used to look really smart. I recall that he built two. The builder/owner would now be in his late 90's. Very cute little NB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crosser Posted July 20, 2019 Report Share Posted July 20, 2019 my boats only 23ft and has everything you would need including shower, hot and cold water and sleeps 4 and also a 3 pot engine inboard.. its surprising what will go in a little boat if thought out properly... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 20, 2019 Report Share Posted July 20, 2019 20 minutes ago, crosser said: my boats only 23ft and has everything you would need including shower, hot and cold water and sleeps 4 and also a 3 pot engine inboard.. its surprising what will go in a little boat if thought out properly... Any pics? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BilgePump Posted July 20, 2019 Report Share Posted July 20, 2019 Moored up today opposite a little 20' outboard powered steel NB. Was a lovely thing. Think the cabin side was about 10' ish long judging by the single window but space would go under its front and rear deck too. It sat correctly in the water and just looked very sweet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Williams Posted July 20, 2019 Report Share Posted July 20, 2019 On 17/07/2019 at 23:36, howardang said: My initial thought is that a 21ft steel narrow boat is really, really small. My boat was built on a 20 foot bridge pontoon, stern paddle drive. Perfectly OK for the two of us. Toilet compartment, proper kitchen (galley) cooker, sink, etc. Cruised 2000 miles, then sold on and kept cruising. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BilgePump Posted July 20, 2019 Report Share Posted July 20, 2019 8x4 nb style from the USA. If you've never seen this guy's shanty boat website, check it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 20, 2019 Report Share Posted July 20, 2019 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Chris Williams said: My boat was built on a 20 foot bridge pontoon, stern paddle drive. Perfectly OK for the two of us. Toilet compartment, proper kitchen (galley) cooker, sink, etc. Cruised 2000 miles, then sold on and kept cruising. Brilliant pontoon boat! A long shot here, but I recall seeing a very similar boat in Practical Boat Owner when I was a sprog. Could it have been yours? Edited July 20, 2019 by Guest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Williams Posted July 20, 2019 Report Share Posted July 20, 2019 3 hours ago, catweasel said: Brilliant pontoon boat! A long shot here, but I recall seeing a very similar boat in Practical Boat Owner when I was a sprog. Could it have been yours? Not that I know of. At the time there were all sorts of pontoon conversions, mostly with outboards. Stern-wheelers were rarer. 'Jethro Tull' is a well known one. Another was 'Shoveller' at Thrupp. Photo is of 'Jethro' (not mine). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 20, 2019 Report Share Posted July 20, 2019 8 minutes ago, Chris Williams said: Not that I know of. At the time there were all sorts of pontoon conversions, mostly with outboards. Stern-wheelers were rarer. 'Jethro Tull' is a well known one. Another was 'Shoveller' at Thrupp. Photo is of 'Jethro' (not mine). I have seen Jethro on the Llangollen. There was definitely a stern wheel pontoon in PBO many years ago but can't remember exact details. I recall a pontoon at Blackburn/Burnley area on L&L late 60's/early 70's with a CA Bedford van body for a cabin. Pontoon boats have always appealed to me for some reason, though never owned one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crosser Posted July 20, 2019 Report Share Posted July 20, 2019 4 hours ago, catweasel said: Any pics? theres a paddle boat for sale on apollo duck at the moment... chaps owned it since 1978.. strange looking thing theres a paddle boat for sale on apollo duck at the moment... chaps owned it since 1978.. strange looking thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Williams Posted July 20, 2019 Report Share Posted July 20, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Chris Williams said: Another was 'Shoveller' at Thrupp. This is 'Shoveller' apparently unmanned, at Thrupp. I have ridden on her. Edited July 20, 2019 by Chris Williams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Williams Posted July 20, 2019 Report Share Posted July 20, 2019 My stern-wheeler only had a 5hp engine, speed about 3 mph. But she could pull or push anything, including full-size butties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtB Posted July 20, 2019 Report Share Posted July 20, 2019 1 hour ago, Chris Williams said: Not that I know of. At the time there were all sorts of pontoon conversions, mostly with outboards. Stern-wheelers were rarer. 'Jethro Tull' is a well known one. Another was 'Shoveller' at Thrupp. Photo is of 'Jethro' (not mine). I seem to remember getting a good close look at the Jethro Tull a couple of decades ago, and deciding the stern wheel was a dummy, just dipping in the water and turning as a result of forward motion provided by other means. Not connected to an engine at all as far as I could see. Is my memory playing tricks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tacet Posted July 21, 2019 Report Share Posted July 21, 2019 9 hours ago, Mike the Boilerman said: I seem to remember getting a good close look at the Jethro Tull a couple of decades ago, and deciding the stern wheel was a dummy, just dipping in the water and turning as a result of forward motion provided by other means. Not connected to an engine at all as far as I could see. Is my memory playing tricks? Jethro Tull drove through its stern wheel when we followed it along the K & A the year Devizes re-opened (1990?). It travelled at a good speed to - but it was noisy due to the paddle slapping the water. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Williams Posted July 21, 2019 Report Share Posted July 21, 2019 4 hours ago, Tacet said: deciding the stern wheel was a dummy No, 'Jethro', 'Shoveller' and my boat were driven solely by the sternwheel. The advantage is in shallow, weedy waters. No poking around in weed hatches. Also, licence fees are based on length - you would not want to pay extra for a dummy wheel. There are trip boats on the Thames with dummy stern wheels and Missisippi-type funnels. Diesel driven. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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